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Le French
Profile Joined December 2011
France782 Posts
March 04 2012 05:41 GMT
#1381
flying should be MVP of the week!
Ca va?
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
March 04 2012 05:41 GMT
#1382
On March 04 2012 14:36 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kiett wrote:
I just don't understand why he didn't bother to scout the back. You'd think that being the first to fall to dirty protoss shit on this map after getting cannon rushed by Brave, you'd know to ALWAYS check for that shit. Ugh.


He scouted where Brave cheesed him, what Flying did was where Bisu cheesed Wooki

Okay so what are you saying? You should only learn from your own mistakes and not those of other people who've also played on the same map? Just because that specific situation didn't happen to Jaehoon doesn't mean he can just ignore the possibility.
Writer:o
friendbg
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria576 Posts
March 04 2012 05:41 GMT
#1383
On March 04 2012 14:41 Le French wrote:
flying should be MVP of the week!

don't rub it in
Why leave today's work for tomorrow, when you can do it the day after
sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2547 Posts
March 04 2012 05:42 GMT
#1384
So many 2-3 lost for T8 this season.. thats not fair they must play another season !
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
[V]
Profile Joined November 2011
United States905 Posts
March 04 2012 05:42 GMT
#1385
On March 04 2012 14:38 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kipsate wrote:
Team8 cheesed out of the playoffs

Well, its not like I didn't expect it.

Silence. I'll give you the three real reasons why T8 isn't in the playoffs:
1. Coaching/Lineups [choices]
2. Sea
3 Killer

The results speak for themselves.

QFT.
It's not just today or the last game that Team 8's fate was decided. It was an entire season of failing.
Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici
MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10341 Posts
March 04 2012 05:42 GMT
#1386
On March 04 2012 14:40 Abort Retry Fail wrote:
Guys let me address the Elephant in the BW room:

Is there a next season at all?

*shrugs* Won't it be a relief if we even last through the first playoffs?
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 04 2012 05:42 GMT
#1387
On March 04 2012 14:37 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:32 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:31 doothegee wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:29 oldgregg wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:27 o[twist] wrote:
that's the second time jaehoon has lost a won 5th set

this team needs more resources because these are some of the best kids in bw and they look so fucking depressed all the time


you can't really blame him for losing that one, that was a dirty strategy and a close close situation

you can 100% blame him and he knows it

Don't you know it's a sin on TL to blame Jaehoon for being terrible



You're a horrible BW fan. When Jaehoon wins it's "ehh gj". When he loses EVERYTHING is his fault and he's horrible, that's some double standed bullshit right there

You're terrible

What do expect, he even hates on his own team when they lose.

Anyway, to people saying Killer should retire as well, pls stop this. The players on this team have been through enough already.


tbh no matter how many people here say failhoon or that killer couldn't kill a fly, it doesn't affect T8, esports or anything important for that matter. let forum nerds be angry all they want, it don't mean nothing. whatever happens to the T8 team and esports will happen because of other factors, and nothing here (good or bad) will change that. so no need to get so upset.
oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
March 04 2012 05:44 GMT
#1388
On March 04 2012 14:41 Le French wrote:
flying should be MVP of the week!


Yes he is obviously a very skilled player
Calculatedly addicted to Substance D for profit by drug terrorists
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 04 2012 05:44 GMT
#1389
On March 04 2012 14:42 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:37 Ryo wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:32 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:31 doothegee wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:29 oldgregg wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:27 o[twist] wrote:
that's the second time jaehoon has lost a won 5th set

this team needs more resources because these are some of the best kids in bw and they look so fucking depressed all the time


you can't really blame him for losing that one, that was a dirty strategy and a close close situation

you can 100% blame him and he knows it

Don't you know it's a sin on TL to blame Jaehoon for being terrible



You're a horrible BW fan. When Jaehoon wins it's "ehh gj". When he loses EVERYTHING is his fault and he's horrible, that's some double standed bullshit right there

You're terrible

What do expect, he even hates on his own team when they lose.

Anyway, to people saying Killer should retire as well, pls stop this. The players on this team have been through enough already.


tbh no matter how many people here say failhoon or that killer couldn't kill a fly, it doesn't affect T8, esports or anything important for that matter. let forum nerds be angry all they want, it don't mean nothing. whatever happens to the T8 team and esports will happen because of other factors, and nothing here (good or bad) will change that. so no need to get so upset.


Translation: Talking smack behind peoples back is fine because it won't affect them
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
March 04 2012 05:45 GMT
#1390
On March 04 2012 14:44 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:42 Golgotha wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:37 Ryo wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:32 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:31 doothegee wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:29 oldgregg wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:27 o[twist] wrote:
that's the second time jaehoon has lost a won 5th set

this team needs more resources because these are some of the best kids in bw and they look so fucking depressed all the time


you can't really blame him for losing that one, that was a dirty strategy and a close close situation

you can 100% blame him and he knows it

Don't you know it's a sin on TL to blame Jaehoon for being terrible



You're a horrible BW fan. When Jaehoon wins it's "ehh gj". When he loses EVERYTHING is his fault and he's horrible, that's some double standed bullshit right there

You're terrible

What do expect, he even hates on his own team when they lose.

Anyway, to people saying Killer should retire as well, pls stop this. The players on this team have been through enough already.


tbh no matter how many people here say failhoon or that killer couldn't kill a fly, it doesn't affect T8, esports or anything important for that matter. let forum nerds be angry all they want, it don't mean nothing. whatever happens to the T8 team and esports will happen because of other factors, and nothing here (good or bad) will change that. so no need to get so upset.


Translation: Talking smack behind peoples back is fine because it won't affect them

Except in South Korea because internet is exceedingly local there somehow
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
big_shark
Profile Joined February 2010
United States172 Posts
March 04 2012 05:45 GMT
#1391
On March 04 2012 14:38 zanzib wrote:
I know Team 8 has been getting a lot of flack but Sea is a good reason why they didn't make it to the playoffs...


and Baby. both have spit the bit...
friendbg
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria576 Posts
March 04 2012 05:45 GMT
#1392
On March 04 2012 14:42 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:37 Ryo wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:32 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:31 doothegee wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:29 oldgregg wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:27 o[twist] wrote:
that's the second time jaehoon has lost a won 5th set

this team needs more resources because these are some of the best kids in bw and they look so fucking depressed all the time


you can't really blame him for losing that one, that was a dirty strategy and a close close situation

you can 100% blame him and he knows it

Don't you know it's a sin on TL to blame Jaehoon for being terrible



You're a horrible BW fan. When Jaehoon wins it's "ehh gj". When he loses EVERYTHING is his fault and he's horrible, that's some double standed bullshit right there

You're terrible

What do expect, he even hates on his own team when they lose.

Anyway, to people saying Killer should retire as well, pls stop this. The players on this team have been through enough already.


tbh no matter how many people here say failhoon or that killer couldn't kill a fly, it doesn't affect T8, esports or anything important for that matter. let forum nerds be angry all they want, it don't mean nothing. whatever happens to the T8 team and esports will happen because of other factors, and nothing here (good or bad) will change that. so no need to get so upset.

are you saying if T8 were to produce good results and got sponsored because of that, it wouldn't affect the BW scene?
Why leave today's work for tomorrow, when you can do it the day after
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-04 05:50:42
March 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#1393
It really looks like it. No matter how you want T8 to win, their play throughout the PL, was very hard.
They looked weaker on most of the days, but I think I was wrong to blame the players for something they could not simply do. It is not that each of them would not like to win, they wanted it badly, its just that their training, skill, luck was not enough at some critical moments.
I always remember Tossgirl saying how the difference in proplayers' skill is of a paper sheet width, maybe its not that bad after all. Strongest go further, weakest stay. Thanks for some wonderful wonderful games T8, <3<3<3 JD specially
Mirabel_
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States1768 Posts
March 04 2012 05:46 GMT
#1394
Rightly, Jaehoon should sweat this failure, but I was watching on the edge of my seat, and I would have been swept up in the micro enough to make the same tactical error of letting my enemy through to that critical pylon.

In low-econ games, the value of everything is inflated so high, and the "right" action becomes more and more obscured as so many variables remain unstabilized. It was very close, but please don't view this loss in such binary terms as a stat analyzer. Jaehoon was at a disadvantage and he came extremely close to salvaging it.
get stronger play longer
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
March 04 2012 05:49 GMT
#1395
On March 04 2012 14:42 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:37 Ryo wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:32 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:31 doothegee wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:30 Scarecrow wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:29 oldgregg wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:27 o[twist] wrote:
that's the second time jaehoon has lost a won 5th set

this team needs more resources because these are some of the best kids in bw and they look so fucking depressed all the time


you can't really blame him for losing that one, that was a dirty strategy and a close close situation

you can 100% blame him and he knows it

Don't you know it's a sin on TL to blame Jaehoon for being terrible



You're a horrible BW fan. When Jaehoon wins it's "ehh gj". When he loses EVERYTHING is his fault and he's horrible, that's some double standed bullshit right there

You're terrible

What do expect, he even hates on his own team when they lose.

Anyway, to people saying Killer should retire as well, pls stop this. The players on this team have been through enough already.


tbh no matter how many people here say failhoon or that killer couldn't kill a fly, it doesn't affect T8, esports or anything important for that matter. let forum nerds be angry all they want, it don't mean nothing. whatever happens to the T8 team and esports will happen because of other factors, and nothing here (good or bad) will change that. so no need to get so upset.

yep, money, risks, popularity all this stuff eventually decide, not some team performance
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
March 04 2012 05:49 GMT
#1396
Leta vs Flash first up fuck yeah
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
March 04 2012 05:49 GMT
#1397
Poor poor Hoon.

Please don't hate on any of the underperforming team 8 players. They have been though so much. Even though they get to keep thier jobs for this season it must hurt so much to be pulled away from all your best friends and to try and go on playing knowing most of them are out of the only job they have ever known and loved.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 04 2012 05:50 GMT
#1398
On March 04 2012 14:41 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2012 14:36 Dakkas wrote:
On March 04 2012 14:35 Kiett wrote:
I just don't understand why he didn't bother to scout the back. You'd think that being the first to fall to dirty protoss shit on this map after getting cannon rushed by Brave, you'd know to ALWAYS check for that shit. Ugh.


He scouted where Brave cheesed him, what Flying did was where Bisu cheesed Wooki

Okay so what are you saying? You should only learn from your own mistakes and not those of other people who've also played on the same map? Just because that specific situation didn't happen to Jaehoon doesn't mean he can just ignore the possibility.


Chiding him out on it isn't exactly fair, everyone that plays on that map is at the risk of being proxy 2-gate or cannon-rush. Not everyone has scouted properly for it either, if anything I'd say it's just a damn unfortunate coincidence that it happened to Jaehoon twice. Personally I'd say Flying would have done that against whoever he was being matched against
big_shark
Profile Joined February 2010
United States172 Posts
March 04 2012 05:50 GMT
#1399
On March 04 2012 14:46 Mirabel_ wrote:
. Jaehoon was at a disadvantage and he came extremely close to salvaging it.


The point was he was ahead. He was making probes and had the same zealot count while Flying cut probes. Even with the probes that he pulled to defend dying they were even. He really did drop the ball sending the 1 zealot to flying's base.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
March 04 2012 05:53 GMT
#1400
You guys want to know where Soulkey lost that big a-move battle?
+ Show Spoiler +
right at the start: His first volley with both groups hit the drones mining gas, and jaedong engaged immediately after.
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