• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:42
CET 15:42
KST 23:42
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros7[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win52025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION1Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest4
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed
Tourneys
2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review BW General Discussion [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? Current Meta PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread MLB/Baseball 2023 Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
KPDH "Golden" as Squid Game…
Peanutsc
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1416 users

[SPL] STX Soul vs SK Telecom T1 - Page 21

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 32 Next All
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
February 26 2012 06:31 GMT
#401
On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks.


he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens.


you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows


Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows.


True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens.


What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm....

He got into trouble because he stayed on bio too long. There was an extended period of time when Zerg was stuck defending that Terran could've used to transition into mech.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
February 26 2012 06:31 GMT
#402
2 lings kill 2 SCVs? Fantasy?
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
February 26 2012 06:31 GMT
#403
2 marines and 2 scvs lost from 6 lings. Wtf Fanta?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:31 GMT
#404
Valconic vs lurker first

t.t
WriterXiao8~~
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
February 26 2012 06:32 GMT
#405
Going Valkonic?!
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 26 2012 06:32 GMT
#406
Valkyries vs lurkers incoming
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7593 Posts
February 26 2012 06:32 GMT
#407
Fantajii with the baller read :O
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
February 26 2012 06:32 GMT
#408
3Hatch Lurkers from Calm.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
February 26 2012 06:32 GMT
#409
Yes, Fantasy with his lifting to allow Calm into his base. He did that in their last OSL series except with lurkers and a subsequent gg
Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
February 26 2012 06:33 GMT
#410
On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks.


he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens.


you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows


Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows.


True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens.


What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm....


Are you guys kidding me with this? He had a good 5-10 minutes to mass those tanks and vultures before Sacsri even any harassment, he was basically knocking on Sacsri's doors trying to knock it down the entire time with just MnMs vs swarmed lurkers. The same scenario happened with Flash vs Effort, except Flash massed tanks, contained Effort, and just slowly push in. There is NOTHING Sacsri could've done with the resources he had at the time. Queens would've taken too long and he would've been broken before they did much or it would've been too low in number like in Effort's case.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
February 26 2012 06:33 GMT
#411
Huge ling runby and lurkers killing neutral building
龔智禮 _________________________________________________________________________________________________ CJ NATION
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#412
On February 26 2012 15:33 Toadily wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks.


he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens.


you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows


Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows.


True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens.


What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm....


Are you guys kidding me with this? He had a good 5-10 minutes to mass those tanks and vultures before Sacsri even any harassment, he was basically knocking on Sacsri's doors trying to knock it down the entire time with just MnMs vs swarmed lurkers. The same scenario happened with Flash vs Effort, except Flash massed tanks, contained Effort, and just slowly push in. There is NOTHING Sacsri could've done with the resources he had at the time. Queens would've taken too long and he would've been broken before they did much or it would've been too low in number like in Effort's case.


Effort was behind from the start and he lost too much units to even do anything to flash ...
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
godofstones
Profile Joined April 2010
United States10 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#413
My heart won't be able to take this.
You want a piece of me, boy?
Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11393 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#414
On February 26 2012 15:29 Nikon wrote:
What the hell is Fantasy doing. Like really. 1 rax expo to min only into mech ?_?

Think of it from Z PoV though if Clam never got scout in.

He literally would have no idea what is going on and might overprepare for a non-existent threat ie 2port.
Moderator。◕‿◕。
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#415
On February 26 2012 15:31 forsooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks.


he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens.


you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows


Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows.


True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens.


What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm....

He got into trouble because he stayed on bio too long. There was an extended period of time when Zerg was stuck defending that Terran could've used to transition into mech.

Yup. 160 vs 90 supply, both players on 4 bases, sacsri turtling for dear life with swarms. Bogus threw that game hard.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#416
Hive is late, drop?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:34 GMT
#417
I think we are in for a long game, this could be good.
WriterXiao8~~
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
February 26 2012 06:35 GMT
#418
FantaSy vs Calm, the very poor man's LeeSsang
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
February 26 2012 06:35 GMT
#419
SO many hatches.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:35 GMT
#420
mech switch incoming!
WriterXiao8~~
Prev 1 19 20 21 22 23 32 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Epic.LAN
13:00
Epic.LAN 46 Group Stage
Liquipedia
CrankTV Team League
13:00
Playoffs: Bo13
BASILISK vs Team LiquidLIVE!
LiquipediaDiscussion
WardiTV Invitational
12:15
Playoffs
ByuN vs Spirit
herO vs Solar
MaNa vs Gerald
Rogue vs GuMiho
WardiTV878
TKL 235
IndyStarCraft 163
Rex106
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 270
TKL 235
IndyStarCraft 163
Rex 106
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4977
Hyuk 3349
Bisu 1279
Flash 1072
Mini 921
Shuttle 668
firebathero 310
actioN 284
Mong 64
Sea.KH 60
[ Show more ]
yabsab 51
sas.Sziky 51
Soulkey 49
Aegong 40
PianO 38
Free 21
JulyZerg 17
Sacsri 16
soO 14
Shine 12
Terrorterran 8
HiyA 5
Dota 2
Gorgc8257
qojqva2374
Dendi855
KheZu338
420jenkins251
XcaliburYe214
syndereN175
Counter-Strike
fl0m2036
oskar94
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor142
Other Games
B2W.Neo864
Pyrionflax413
crisheroes336
Lowko333
Liquid`LucifroN255
Hui .232
DeMusliM230
Sick142
KnowMe135
Fuzer 109
djWHEAT55
nookyyy 50
QueenE50
ArmadaUGS49
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL16302
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade593
Upcoming Events
Epic.LAN
21h 18m
BSL Team A[vengers]
23h 18m
Dewalt vs Shine
UltrA vs ZeLoT
LAN Event
23h 18m
BSL 21
1d 4h
BSL Team A[vengers]
1d 23h
Cross vs Motive
Sziky vs HiyA
BSL 21
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
WardiTV TLMC #15
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

SC4ALL: Brood War
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.