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On February 26 2012 15:34 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 15:29 Nikon wrote:
What the hell is Fantasy doing. Like really. 1 rax expo to min only into mech ?_? Think of it from Z PoV though if Clam never got scout in. He literally would have no idea what is going on and might overprepare for a non-existent threat ie 2port.
Yeah, but take the map into consideration. Lurker openings breaking the backdoor are pretty popular on it, so in case of 2port, he'd already have hydras? I mean, playing such tricks on this map might not be the best decision.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Its been a while since ive seen Fantasy Mech vZ I think
I am excited!
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Calm would like you, Mr. Lurker, to defuse mines for him.
Okay boss, what should I do?
Just go run at the mine. It'll defuse when it blows you up.
But boss!
No buts! Now go do it.
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On February 26 2012 15:34 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 15:33 Toadily wrote:On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks. he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens. you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows. True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens. What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm.... Are you guys kidding me with this? He had a good 5-10 minutes to mass those tanks and vultures before Sacsri even any harassment, he was basically knocking on Sacsri's doors trying to knock it down the entire time with just MnMs vs swarmed lurkers. The same scenario happened with Flash vs Effort, except Flash massed tanks, contained Effort, and just slowly push in. There is NOTHING Sacsri could've done with the resources he had at the time. Queens would've taken too long and he would've been broken before they did much or it would've been too low in number like in Effort's case. Effort was behind from the start and he lost too much units to even do anything to flash ...
Bogus was ahead after the early game by a solid 50+ supply the entire time, peaking to 70 at times, for the entire mid game where he could've switched.. how was Sacsri not behind from the start again?
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In fact, he lost all his mutas so he had 0 map control for at least 10 minutes
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Netherlands45349 Posts
A small terrorist squad moving out,killing many lings and heading for Calm's 12 o clock!
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Dat vulture control.
So good so far.
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United States7639 Posts
Take note, Bogus. Vultures and mines are pretty good.
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Fantasy is playing really well. He is in an awesome shape.
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Clam didn't cancel that hatch...
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Netherlands45349 Posts
Fantasy covering each expansion of the map with IED, making sure that callm doesnt sneak an expo.
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First, a TvT with vessels, now a vessel-less TvZ. Is this a fantasy or is it Fantasy playing?
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
oh shit this is gonna go loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:39 poisui wrote:
First, a TvT with vessels, now a vessel-less TvZ. Is this a fantasy or is it Fantasy playing?
pantaji.
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Clam giving gift lurkers left and right to Fantasy who graciously accepts with superb micro.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
oh shit this is gonna go loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
not likely.
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Netherlands45349 Posts
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I can't really say what type of army is Fantasy getting... M&M wih Mech... valkyries, even bats. We need BC nao
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On February 26 2012 15:37 Toadily wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2012 15:34 Sawamura wrote:On February 26 2012 15:33 Toadily wrote:On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks. he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens. you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows. True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens. What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm.... Are you guys kidding me with this? He had a good 5-10 minutes to mass those tanks and vultures before Sacsri even any harassment, he was basically knocking on Sacsri's doors trying to knock it down the entire time with just MnMs vs swarmed lurkers. The same scenario happened with Flash vs Effort, except Flash massed tanks, contained Effort, and just slowly push in. There is NOTHING Sacsri could've done with the resources he had at the time. Queens would've taken too long and he would've been broken before they did much or it would've been too low in number like in Effort's case. Effort was behind from the start and he lost too much units to even do anything to flash ... Bogus was ahead after the early game by a solid 50+ supply the entire time, peaking to 70 at times, for the entire mid game where he could've switched.. how was Sacsri not behind from the start again? edit: In fact, he lost all his mutas so he had 0 map control for at least 10 minutes
Sacsri delayed and killed lots of mnm at the top right of his base he didn't need map control when he had lots of lurkers and units and defilers was on the way .
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ALLEYCAT BLUES50584 Posts
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EPT
