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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 06:36:50
February 26 2012 06:36 GMT
#421
On February 26 2012 15:34 Harem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:29 Nikon wrote:
What the hell is Fantasy doing. Like really. 1 rax expo to min only into mech ?_?

Think of it from Z PoV though if Clam never got scout in.

He literally would have no idea what is going on and might overprepare for a non-existent threat ie 2port.


Yeah, but take the map into consideration. Lurker openings breaking the backdoor are pretty popular on it, so in case of 2port, he'd already have hydras? I mean, playing such tricks on this map might not be the best decision.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:36 GMT
#422
Its been a while since ive seen Fantasy Mech vZ I think

I am excited!
WriterXiao8~~
Emperor_Earth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States824 Posts
February 26 2012 06:37 GMT
#423
Calm would like you, Mr. Lurker, to defuse mines for him.

Okay boss, what should I do?

Just go run at the mine. It'll defuse when it blows you up.

But boss!

No buts! Now go do it.
@Emperor_Earth ------- "Amat Victoria Curam."
Toadily
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States837 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-26 06:38:46
February 26 2012 06:37 GMT
#424
On February 26 2012 15:34 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:33 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks.


he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens.


you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows


Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows.


True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens.


What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm....


Are you guys kidding me with this? He had a good 5-10 minutes to mass those tanks and vultures before Sacsri even any harassment, he was basically knocking on Sacsri's doors trying to knock it down the entire time with just MnMs vs swarmed lurkers. The same scenario happened with Flash vs Effort, except Flash massed tanks, contained Effort, and just slowly push in. There is NOTHING Sacsri could've done with the resources he had at the time. Queens would've taken too long and he would've been broken before they did much or it would've been too low in number like in Effort's case.


Effort was behind from the start and he lost too much units to even do anything to flash ...


Bogus was ahead after the early game by a solid 50+ supply the entire time, peaking to 70 at times, for the entire mid game where he could've switched.. how was Sacsri not behind from the start again?

edit:

In fact, he lost all his mutas so he had 0 map control for at least 10 minutes
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:37 GMT
#425
A small terrorist squad moving out,killing many lings and heading for Calm's 12 o clock!
WriterXiao8~~
godofstones
Profile Joined April 2010
United States10 Posts
February 26 2012 06:38 GMT
#426
Dat vulture control.
So good so far.
You want a piece of me, boy?
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
February 26 2012 06:38 GMT
#427
Take note, Bogus. Vultures and mines are pretty good.
Writer:o
jaQi
Profile Joined December 2010
1121 Posts
February 26 2012 06:38 GMT
#428
Fantasy is playing really well. He is in an awesome shape.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
February 26 2012 06:38 GMT
#429
Clam didn't cancel that hatch...
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
February 26 2012 06:39 GMT
#430
No cancel. What.
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:39 GMT
#431
Fantasy covering each expansion of the map with IED, making sure that callm doesnt sneak an expo.
WriterXiao8~~
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
February 26 2012 06:39 GMT
#432
First, a TvT with vessels, now a vessel-less TvZ. Is this a fantasy or is it Fantasy playing?
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
February 26 2012 06:39 GMT
#433
oh shit this is gonna go loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
February 26 2012 06:40 GMT
#434
On February 26 2012 15:39 poisui wrote:
First, a TvT with vessels, now a vessel-less TvZ. Is this a fantasy or is it Fantasy playing?


pantaji.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
February 26 2012 06:40 GMT
#435
Clam giving gift lurkers left and right to Fantasy who graciously accepts with superb micro.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:40 GMT
#436
On February 26 2012 15:39 BLinD-RawR wrote:
oh shit this is gonna go loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong.


not likely.
WriterXiao8~~
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
February 26 2012 06:40 GMT
#437
HUGE DOOM DROPU INC!
WriterXiao8~~
Hero.SP
Profile Joined March 2010
Chile711 Posts
February 26 2012 06:40 GMT
#438
I can't really say what type of army is Fantasy getting... M&M wih Mech... valkyries, even bats. We need BC nao
"well you know, the hardest part is the gg, I mean you have to be aware anytime your opponent can type gg, and you have to gg just right after him." - Flash
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
February 26 2012 06:41 GMT
#439
On February 26 2012 15:37 Toadily wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 26 2012 15:34 Sawamura wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:33 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:27 Sawamura wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:25 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:21 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:19 Toadily wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:15 hellbound wrote:
On February 26 2012 15:13 mnesthes wrote:
I don't understand the decision of using the Flash build then not building any Tanks.


he built more than 2 ctrl groups of tanks. Dem keens.


you get WAY more than 2 ctrl groups of tank after a transition considering the length of the game, also 0 vulture. mines would've completely dominated those cows


Don't be so black and white, if there were so many mines, he would've just not went cows.


True, but what does units does zerg have in their arsenal against a proper mech transition when the terran is so far ahead that he would need to throw the game away to lose the game. Bogus always had a decent SV count even after losing them to mutas/scourges after plague to EMP queens.


What do you mean by proper mech transition when terran isn't doing well when some of his expo is getting knock down by ultras and lings with dark swarm....


Are you guys kidding me with this? He had a good 5-10 minutes to mass those tanks and vultures before Sacsri even any harassment, he was basically knocking on Sacsri's doors trying to knock it down the entire time with just MnMs vs swarmed lurkers. The same scenario happened with Flash vs Effort, except Flash massed tanks, contained Effort, and just slowly push in. There is NOTHING Sacsri could've done with the resources he had at the time. Queens would've taken too long and he would've been broken before they did much or it would've been too low in number like in Effort's case.


Effort was behind from the start and he lost too much units to even do anything to flash ...


Bogus was ahead after the early game by a solid 50+ supply the entire time, peaking to 70 at times, for the entire mid game where he could've switched.. how was Sacsri not behind from the start again?

edit:

In fact, he lost all his mutas so he had 0 map control for at least 10 minutes


Sacsri delayed and killed lots of mnm at the top right of his base he didn't need map control when he had lots of lurkers and units and defilers was on the way .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51081 Posts
February 26 2012 06:41 GMT
#440
HUUUUGE DROP!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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