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On February 25 2012 17:09 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 17:08 Winechu wrote:
KTFlash with a +14 differential. Beastin' it. Flash 14 wins that makes KT have a 50% winrate outside of him lolol.
That's good enough, Flash auto win then the rest win 50% of the remaining 4 games = win the series.
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On February 25 2012 17:09 Kipsate wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 17:08 Winechu wrote:
KTFlash with a +14 differential. Beastin' it. Flash 14 wins that makes KT have a 50% winrate outside of him lolol.
U do realise that this is best score in any teams ? I mean if u remove best player score from any other team every single one gets below 50% ( ok i think Khan will be also exact 50%) but noone else , so thats pretty damn good if u ask me
if u dont get what i mean here it is .. Lets remove ace players from all the teams for a second and see what we get ( dont go too deep into that analysis its just to prove something)
So KT without Flash is 50% winrate Khan without Stork is 50% winrate SKT without Fantasy is 48% winrate edit" tbh ill do the rest CJ without Leta 47% winrate STX without Calm 44% winrate Team 8 without Jaedong 43% winrate Stars without Soulkey 41.5%(!!!) winrate Ace without Kal 36% winrate
We still got top 4 the same , we got most scores the same just Stars not fitting in
This is for all people who blindly believe KT is no1 just because of Flash .. ure wrong! dont believe? do the math.
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Damn Barracks, keep wanting the food hon_sin stockpiled inside the supply depots. Well played.
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Postin' this before I head off to bed
![[image loading]](http://filesmelt.com/dl/standings1.jpg)
We can conclude:
-Samsung and KT are in. -Team 8, STX and ACE are out, sorry, better luck next season.
It's gonna be a gritty battle for spots 3 and 4 between SKT1, CJ, and Stars. SKT can essentially seal their spot if they beat STX tomorrow thanks to their large win differential, Stars is in murky water but not out of the running yet. The Stars vs CJ game in 3 days will make or break them.
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i only watch bw when flash plays
and after the vod.. holy shit this kid is a freaking phenomenon
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On February 25 2012 15:41 S-Class wrote: Take note. Flash midgame/lategame is always set up by his early game bunker or marine rush. All his games this season has been like that. SK was behind 30 supply all game Just hanging on with epic control.
Flash only had to wait for his econ and macro to kick in and GG.
Stop Flash early game shenanigans, and let's see how Flash perfroms on even games.
... What?
I seem to remember he's won a few OSLs/MSLs with his "even game" shenanigans.
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On February 25 2012 15:45 Gairbear wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 15:41 S-Class wrote: Take note. Flash midgame/lategame is always set up by his early game bunker or marine rush. All his games this season has been like that. SK was behind 30 supply all game Just hanging on with epic control.
Flash only had to wait for his econ and macro to kick in and GG.
Stop Flash early game shenanigans, and let's see how Flash perfroms on even games. + Show Spoiler +Even so that multitasking ability is yet to be matched by only 1 player. + Show Spoiler +
That's false. Baby is by far the best aggro multitasker in the game today> he's not that good at saviOr-esque management, but he absolutely obliterated FlaSh when they tried to out multi each other.
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I thought that was a really cool TvT from Barracks. Disregarding a lot of sloppy micro / management errors (losing clumps of tanks for no reason, forgetting about wraiths, etc.), the tank drop + wraith switch -> kill depots -> battlecruiser transition was pretty awesome, made hon_sin unable to make goliaths ^^
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On February 25 2012 17:43 Emperor_Earth wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 15:41 S-Class wrote: Take note. Flash midgame/lategame is always set up by his early game bunker or marine rush. All his games this season has been like that. SK was behind 30 supply all game Just hanging on with epic control.
Flash only had to wait for his econ and macro to kick in and GG.
Stop Flash early game shenanigans, and let's see how Flash perfroms on even games. ... What? I seem to remember he's won a few OSLs/MSLs with his "even game" shenanigans. it doesnt matter, flash IS the metagame he'll set up the game however he wants regardless
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On February 25 2012 17:25 Hinanawi wrote:Postin' this before I head off to bed ![[image loading]](http://filesmelt.com/dl/standings1.jpg) We can conclude: -Samsung and KT are in. -Team 8, STX and ACE are out, sorry, better luck next season. It's gonna be a gritty battle for spots 3 and 4 between SKT1, CJ, and Stars. SKT can essentially seal their spot if they beat STX tomorrow thanks to their large win differential, Stars is in murky water but not out of the running yet. The Stars vs CJ game in 3 days will make or break them. That's simply untrue. KT and KHAN are in, yes, but 8, STX, and ACE all have slim chances remaining.
+ Show Spoiler +ACE : KHAN +ace -khan STX : SKT +stx -skt Stars : CJ +? KT : STX +stx -kt ACE : STX +? SKT KHAN +?
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8 : Stars +8 -stars CJ : KT +? ACE : SKT +ace -skt KHAN : 8 +8 -khan SKT : 8 +8 -skt KT : ACE +ace -kt - CJ : STX +stx -cj KHAN : Stars +? 8 : KT +8 -kt CJ : ACE +ace -cj
KT 11- 6 +14 -3 (1?) cj KHAN 11- 6 + 6 -2 (2?) SKT 9- 8 + 7 -3 (1?) CJ 9- 8 + 2 -2 (2?) Stars 9- 9 - 4 -1 (2?) 8 7-10 - 5 (-1) +4 STX 7-10 - 7 +3 (1?) ACE 5-11 -14 +4 (1?)
KHAN 11- 8 + 6? (2?) skt, stars KT 11- 9 +14? (1?) cj 8 11-10 - 5?(-1) STX 10-10 - 7? (1?) ace CJ 9-10 + 2? (2?) kt, stars Stars 9-10 - 4? (2?) khan, cj SKT 9-11 + 7? (1?) khan ACE 9-11 -14? (1?) stx
KT 12- 9 +14? (1?) Wv cj KHAN 12- 9 + 6? (2?) Lv skt, Wv stars 8 11-10 - 5?(-1) SKT 10-11 + 7? (1?) Wv khan Stars 10-11 - 4? (2?) Lv khan, Wv cj STX 10-11 - 7? (1?) Lv ace ACE 10-11 -14? (1?) Wv stx CJ 9-12 + 2? (2?) Lv kt, Lv stars
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Mathematically, yes they still stand a chance. But how probable and realistic is that outcome? They're pretty much out of contention already.
On February 25 2012 17:14 George_the_man wrote:Show nested quote +On February 25 2012 17:09 Kipsate wrote:On February 25 2012 17:08 Winechu wrote:
KTFlash with a +14 differential. Beastin' it. Flash 14 wins that makes KT have a 50% winrate outside of him lolol. U do realise that this is best score in any teams ? I mean if u remove best player score from any other team every single one gets below 50% ( ok i think Khan will be also exact 50%) but noone else , so thats pretty damn good if u ask me if u dont get what i mean here it is .. Lets remove ace players from all the teams for a second and see what we get ( dont go too deep into that analysis its just to prove something) So KT without Flash is 50% winrate Khan without Stork is 50% winrate SKT without Fantasy is 48% winrate edit" tbh ill do the rest CJ without Leta 47% winrate STX without Calm 44% winrate Team 8 without Jaedong 43% winrate Stars without Soulkey 41.5%(!!!) winrate Ace without Kal 36% winrate We still got top 4 the same , we got most scores the same just Stars not fitting in This is for all people who blindly believe KT is no1 just because of Flash .. ure wrong! dont believe? do the math.
I dont think kipsate was trying to demean the efforts of rest of the KT players, but nonetheless those are some interesting statistics. Flash does have a reliable supporting cast. Especially Stats/CH.
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What's happened to Free? Haven't seen him in a while.
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holy fuck soulkey that was pimp.
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I can't stop rewatching Soulkey's lurker egg shield. Too bad nobody has 2000 apm. Zerg would never need overlords against terran again.
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Soulkey went down just as Stork did - he played incredibly well, but Flash was in control of the game the entire time. Fans got what they wanted, Woongjin didn't. Because let's be honest here... in current form, the only one who has a mild chance of giving Flash a run for his money is probably fantasy (as much as I'd love to say Stork too, he does not).
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Holy jesus. Just watched the Soulkey vs Flash game. I was kind of worried when SK was pulling himself out of the early disadvantage and his awesome lurker egg shield trick. But damn... Flash is just steps ahead in every aspect of the game. He's just outclassing everyone it gets me so excited everytime he plays to see if his opponent can keep up and work something out.
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On February 25 2012 15:41 S-Class wrote: Take note. Flash midgame/lategame is always set up by his early game bunker or marine rush. All his games this season has been like that. SK was behind 30 supply all game Just hanging on with epic control.
Flash only had to wait for his econ and macro to kick in and GG.
Stop Flash early game shenanigans, and let's see how Flash perfroms on even games. I think this would be a bigger lawl if this was on the unimpressed Flash thread,
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Flash just kept on ramping up the pressure until Souldkey collapsed. His resources were shooting up and he started walking into mines even though his position looked ok. Could have been lack of multitasking ability but more likely it was just mental fatigue from being under siege the whole game.
The scary part is that Flash might have had a few more gears left. Though his macro wasn't perfect either so who knows.
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