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yepenaxa
Profile Joined July 2011
Belarus2280 Posts
February 08 2012 12:18 GMT
#261
On February 08 2012 21:15 Sawamura wrote:
I wish this was still bo7 instead of bo5 .

yes. bo5 is kinda anticlimactic. some days end in 30 minutes without even 1 interesting match.
War. Bloody War.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2419 Posts
February 08 2012 12:18 GMT
#262
On February 08 2012 21:18 thopol wrote:
He was a base down and at a muta disadvantage.

How was he a base down?
The original Bogus fan.
HighTemper
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada3867 Posts
February 08 2012 12:18 GMT
#263
On February 08 2012 21:17 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:16 thopol wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:14 Motivate wrote:
seriously orion????

He had to go with the mutas and hope for the best. If he had stayed home for much time at all he would have just kept falling behind faster and faster.

I was half-watching... didn't he have the better eco in terms of BO's? How could it be he was at risk of falling behind?

>_<

4 spores vs None... that's very costly.
"Issue the orders Sir [JangBi], and I will storm Hell." - Anthony Wayne
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 08 2012 12:19 GMT
#264
On February 08 2012 21:18 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:17 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:16 thopol wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:14 Motivate wrote:
seriously orion????

He had to go with the mutas and hope for the best. If he had stayed home for much time at all he would have just kept falling behind faster and faster.

I was half-watching... didn't he have the better eco in terms of BO's? How could it be he was at risk of falling behind?

>_<

He was a base down and at a muta disadvantage.


it was 2base vs 2base, Hydra never took his nat.
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
February 08 2012 12:19 GMT
#265
stupid Ace...

how about running your by far best player FBH more than 5 times a season? screw them. I am glad these non-FBBhing idiots lose! Hope they get last again.
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
February 08 2012 12:19 GMT
#266
what is Hydra still doing in the booth ?
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
February 08 2012 12:20 GMT
#267
SKT, CJ, Stars each have 7 wins and 7 losses.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 08 2012 12:20 GMT
#268
On February 08 2012 21:19 Fenrax wrote:
stupid Ace...

how about running your by far best player FBH more than 5 times a season? screw them. I am glad these non-FBBhing idiots lose! Hope they get last again.


You can't really say that since you don't know how FBH is doing in the internal matches. If he is losing to piano and orion what's the point of sending him out?
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
February 08 2012 12:20 GMT
#269
On February 08 2012 21:18 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:18 thopol wrote:
He was a base down and at a muta disadvantage.

How was he a base down?

Oh, whoops. I guess late tech caused an unfavorable engagement at 6 caused an overall deficiency.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-08 12:21:07
February 08 2012 12:20 GMT
#270
On February 08 2012 21:18 yepenaxa wrote:
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On February 08 2012 21:15 Sawamura wrote:
I wish this was still bo7 instead of bo5 .

yes. bo5 is kinda anticlimactic. some days end in 30 minutes without even 1 interesting match.

Then again, when two sets went to ace with some TvT's in the mix you could spend a good 5hrs+ watching BW. Not to mention OSL / MSL games that followed. Good times.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
iLoveKT
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Philippines3615 Posts
February 08 2012 12:21 GMT
#271
ACE back in familiar territory I guess. Im really curious about why they arent using fbh.
Woo Jung Ho
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2419 Posts
February 08 2012 12:21 GMT
#272
On February 08 2012 21:18 HighTemper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:17 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:16 thopol wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:14 Motivate wrote:
seriously orion????

He had to go with the mutas and hope for the best. If he had stayed home for much time at all he would have just kept falling behind faster and faster.

I was half-watching... didn't he have the better eco in terms of BO's? How could it be he was at risk of falling behind?

>_<

4 spores vs None... that's very costly.

But 3-4 spores are standard against 9pool's faster mutas, and people still say 12 pool > 9pool.
The original Bogus fan.
fold
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-19 15:52:07
February 08 2012 12:21 GMT
#273
Hydra couldn't believe that he wasn't playing a computer last game so he went to play another to reassure himself.

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George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
February 08 2012 12:21 GMT
#274
On February 08 2012 21:20 Emon_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:18 yepenaxa wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:15 Sawamura wrote:
I wish this was still bo7 instead of bo5 .

yes. bo5 is kinda anticlimactic. some days end in 30 minutes without even 1 interesting match.

Then again, when two sets went to ace with some TvT's in the mix you could spend a good 5hrs+ watching BW. Not to mention OSL / MSL games that followed. Good times.


Well id rather have too much SC than not enough.. its not like i have to watch everything ><
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 08 2012 12:22 GMT
#275
On February 08 2012 21:20 thopol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:18 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:18 thopol wrote:
He was a base down and at a muta disadvantage.

How was he a base down?

Oh, whoops. I guess late tech caused an unfavorable engagement at 6 caused an overall deficiency.


He was just behind in army (gas) and upgrades. If he didn't engage Hydra was free to expand with his map control. Do or die, pretty typical in zvz's.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
February 08 2012 12:23 GMT
#276
On February 08 2012 21:21 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:18 HighTemper wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:17 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:16 thopol wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:14 Motivate wrote:
seriously orion????

He had to go with the mutas and hope for the best. If he had stayed home for much time at all he would have just kept falling behind faster and faster.

I was half-watching... didn't he have the better eco in terms of BO's? How could it be he was at risk of falling behind?

>_<

4 spores vs None... that's very costly.

But 3-4 spores are standard against 9pool's faster mutas, and people still say 12 pool > 9pool.

He could never pressure the 2nd hatch thanks to the ramp is my guess. I also think he took his second gas too late. Not sure though, I hardly understand anything in ZvZ
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
February 08 2012 12:24 GMT
#277
On February 08 2012 21:19 George_the_man wrote:
what is Hydra still doing in the booth ?

let's just say air force ace aren't the only ones saluting :p
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hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
February 08 2012 12:24 GMT
#278
On February 08 2012 21:21 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:18 HighTemper wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:17 Turbovolver wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:16 thopol wrote:
On February 08 2012 21:14 Motivate wrote:
seriously orion????

He had to go with the mutas and hope for the best. If he had stayed home for much time at all he would have just kept falling behind faster and faster.

I was half-watching... didn't he have the better eco in terms of BO's? How could it be he was at risk of falling behind?

>_<

4 spores vs None... that's very costly.

But 3-4 spores are standard against 9pool's faster mutas, and people still say 12 pool > 9pool.


Uh, really? I guess if it's 9pool lair first or something. 12pool lair vs 9pool speed spire timings are not that different.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
February 08 2012 12:24 GMT
#279
I am broodwar starve this can't be over right ???? Damn it ....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Fenrax
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States5018 Posts
February 08 2012 12:27 GMT
#280
On February 08 2012 21:20 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 08 2012 21:19 Fenrax wrote:
stupid Ace...

how about running your by far best player FBH more than 5 times a season? screw them. I am glad these non-FBBhing idiots lose! Hope they get last again.


You can't really say that since you don't know how FBH is doing in the internal matches. If he is losing to piano and orion what's the point of sending him out?


Why would he lose to them? They suck.

And even if he loses, then they suck because they can't perform in front of cameras. You can give them shots too, but do not do it in favor of the only guy in your team that constantly wins the majority of his Proleague games. It is retarded, that what it is, and I don't need any inside information to tell that with 100% safety.
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