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On January 28 2012 11:14 fold wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 10:28 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:26 johny23 wrote:
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So if PM'ed my opponent the second I knew who I was facing it would LITERALLY change NOTHING because they had no clue they were playing me until then anyways. Sorry but theres no rebuttal for this it's brutally clear that your logic makes no sense of how I will have an unfair advantage.
I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal. Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots. Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise. It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own. It's just annoying when you play as protoss and you have to 1 base against zerg or you scout protoss last and you've already gone core and they're 2 gate zealoting. You're announcing the race you're playing when you're RvZing right? Then it should be no problem and I don't know why there's 5 pages of this -.-
There is 5 pages because he agreed to the rules but decided to whine about them anyways. This naturally led everyone to believe that he had not yet agreed to follow the rules. When it became clear that he agreed to follow the rules, he began arguing about how it was unfair that he had to announce his race before the match. It took a long discussion to decipher the fact that he was indeed willing to announce the race he picks as soon as he knows who he is playing, and not right before the game, which would be entirely unfair.
Please, I beg you, don't start asking him about anything RvZ. He will bring up how in ISL2 he didn't have to do it, and how he is losing the benefit from being able to play all 3 races, and how it's placing restrictions on him that he has to announce race. Then he will tell you that you don't know what restrictions, fairness, and principals are. He will go as far as claiming that you don't even know of the words, and that if you say you do, you are a liar.
Throughout the entire process he will not read what you write, and will quote himself repeatedly, adding nothing.
Please, don't start. Many valiant posters have fallen before your time.
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On January 28 2012 11:18 Shimy wrote:
Holy crap. What the heck you guys? PvP RvZ PvT are his races as he has PM'd me and they are now in the OP. Please stop posting about this crap johny. Someone start posting something else lol
Alright, change of subject!
In the quite likely event that I am knocked out of the tournament, I will be rooting for snipin_panda.
Who will you root for if you're no longer in the tour?
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On January 28 2012 11:21 Jealous wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 11:14 fold wrote:On January 28 2012 10:28 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:26 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:22 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 10:20 ninazerg wrote:On January 28 2012 10:13 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 10:00 johny23 wrote:On January 28 2012 09:53 Jealous wrote:On January 28 2012 09:31 johny23 wrote:
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I would send my race pick immediately after knowing my opponent. I am sorry that you assume iam like you and your gang and would with-hold the information to try and get an adjust advantage. Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal.
Why did you not say this when I asked you earlier (I can reference the post, if you like)? This whole time I (and others) were under the impression that you would just pick whenever you felt like it, after thinking about it or watching their replays or something. I also love how you accuse me of this act, even though I don't even have the option (and never did, in any tournament). On top of which, I have been berating you for the fact that you might do this during our conversation, how can you assume I would do it despite my arguing against it? Ridiculous. Your lack of logic is only paralleled by your laughably pompous approach to both argument and spelling (bold, above). Hint: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/principal What are you talking about dude. Can you please just be quiet. You don't even understand the concept of restrictions. As far as my spelling I don't see where I misspelled much and even If I did its bound to happen after 10+ post of trying to explain to you the concept of restrictions vs non-restrictions. You refuse to acknowledge (or don't understand) how it's restricting. Also it's no more or less fair to force someone to pick match ups the entire tourney then it is to let someone play what race they want vs who they want. That's absurd. If you can't even see the other side of the argument then please stop arguing. Jesus. EDIT: I assume you would do it because you're assuming I would do it. How else could you argue against me wanting to pick certain races vs certain players without assuming I would withhold information. Otherwise they would know my race as soon as I knew who was I playing(unless I tried to get an "unjust" advantage. 1) You did not answer my question earlier, which asked "When will you let the other person know your race?" From this I assumed that you have no standard for this and would just do it whenever. This was obviously incorrect, something I learned now. I have no reason to argue with you any longer. Which is exactly what I said in the post you just quoted, and apparently did not read. 2) I understand what restrictions are. Do you understand what a principal is? It's a person who runs a school. The reason I pointed it out is because of the irony: "Apparently you lied and don't know anything of the word principal." I am simply baffled that anyone can write this in earnest. The best part is that it isn't even the first time you've written the word incorrectly and it's been commented on. 3) This all leads me to the conclusion that not only do you try to end arguments by accusing others of a lack of understanding of words or simple concepts (after failing to answer their questions which would resolve the whole issue, no less), but you also don't read what is written back to you, or don't understand it. The irony is unreal. In response to your EDIT, I will reiterate that you did not answer my question in the past, so I had the right to assumption due to your pointed lack of response. I did not realize I was dealing with a person who doesn't read posts they replied to. Sorry for that. Your assumption, however, is completely invalid because I play Protoss, and therefore will never and have never been in your predicament. I never argue with "race-pickers" or "random" people out of... uh... principle... because they have a weird superiority complex / they're deeply afraid that if they lose their element of surprise, they'll have to play a fair game. Impressive coming from someone who only plays one race. So it's your opinion that I should have no advantage for knowing how to play all three races correct? That's a really interesting perspective. Okay man it's time to finally burst your bubble: I am pretty sure most people in this tournament know how to BBS, 4 pool, and proxy 2 gate. Oh wait, I forgot you make your own builds, so lets make it BBS with 1 extra SCV from the mineral line, drone along with the lings in 4 pool, and a probe with your zealots. Nono Nina is right. Since Random isn't played in the korean prof scene and because 90% of people on iccup wet themselves if they don't know their opponents race then we should without a doubt place restrictions on them and say they have a superiority complex and deeply afraid of losing element of suprise. It has nothing to do that players can't adapt vs Random users because like you said all the known builds are already figured out for them in "X vs X" and heaven forbid they have to make up their own. It's just annoying when you play as protoss and you have to 1 base against zerg or you scout protoss last and you've already gone core and they're 2 gate zealoting. You're announcing the race you're playing when you're RvZing right? Then it should be no problem and I don't know why there's 5 pages of this -.- There is 5 pages because he agreed to the rules but decided to whine about them anyways. This naturally led everyone to believe that he had not yet agreed to follow the rules. When it became clear that he agreed to follow the rules, he began arguing about how it was unfair that he had to announce his race before the match. It took a long discussion to decipher the fact that he was indeed willing to announce the race he picks as soon as he knows who he is playing, and not right before the game, which would be entirely unfair. Please, I beg you, don't start asking him about anything RvZ. He will bring up how in ISL2 he didn't have to do it, and how he is losing the benefit from being able to play all 3 races, and how it's placing restrictions on him that he has to announce race. Then he will tell you that you don't know what restrictions, fairness, and principals are. He will go as far as claiming that you don't even know of the words, and that if you say you do, you are a liar. Throughout the entire process he will not read what you write, and will quote himself repeatedly, adding nothing. Please, don't start. Many valiant posters have fallen before your time.
LOL. I never played in ISL2 just was sourcing them. I don't care anymore gl hf.
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On January 28 2012 11:28 ninazerg wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 11:18 Shimy wrote:
Holy crap. What the heck you guys? PvP RvZ PvT are his races as he has PM'd me and they are now in the OP. Please stop posting about this crap johny. Someone start posting something else lol Alright, change of subject! In the quite likely event that I am knocked out of the tournament, I will be rooting for snipin_panda. Who will you root for if you're no longer in the tour?
Good topic. You can't pick yourself, so who are you rooting for? (I've already proclaimed my sGs pride  )
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I think Kiante or Noise[AoV] will win if they both make it through group stages and don't play each other in RO16.
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On January 28 2012 12:08 krndandaman wrote:
Wait then i can choose between pvz and zvz as long as i announce it when matches are announced?
unfortunately not I was told, if you pick a match up now you have to stick with it. I wish this wasn't the case.
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I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either.
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On January 28 2012 12:24 Jealous wrote:
I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either.
You're not going to root for me if you get knocked out?
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On January 28 2012 12:24 Jealous wrote:
I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either.
Yeah, Shotcoder is a BM prick hope he gets kicked out early by some really gay shit.
I'll be rooting for Johny23, race pickers for the win. hahaha.
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On January 28 2012 12:26 johny23 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 12:24 Jealous wrote:
I'm rooting for Probe. He's gotten a lot better recently, especially in PvT. I think he has been sapping my powers. If Noise is the same as Noise[BsG] I will not root for him, he flipped on me once in ladder xD I also do not respect Kiante so I will not root for him either. You're not going to root for me if you get knocked out?
Not going to lie, your posts have been some of the most laughter-inducing I've read on TL in a while. Unfortunately, I'm not a fan of the way you go about voicing your opinions.
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I got the #1 bad manner on iccup. I've only toned it down because I dont want to be banned from tourney!
EDIT: Go to www.iccup.com check under Ladder 1x1 BM user. I am ranked olympic #1 103-0
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On January 28 2012 13:20 johny23 wrote:I got the #1 bad manner on iccup. I've only toned it down because I dont want to be banned from tourney! EDIT: Go to www.iccup.com check under Ladder 1x1 BM user. I am ranked olympic #1 103-0
I was referring to the fact that you are probably also somewhere around A- rank on WhineCup, specializing in late-game QQ builds that go against the typical strategy of crying first then settling for what you initially had. Your unique approach throws most people off, hence your high rank, but your willingness to settle first is detrimental to your achievement of an olympic rank.
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This is stupid take it to pm's please...
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On January 28 2012 14:22 Lumire wrote:
This is stupid take it to pm's please...
Sorry Lumire let me be the first to apologize that you don't approve my post. Please make a list of what we can and can't talk about.
Also I want to thank you for your superb contribution to this thread. It's really constructive to bash other's people post when you add absolutely nothing but criticism.
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On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player
On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player
On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed.
I think I found Scan guys.
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On January 28 2012 14:29 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed. I think I found Scan guys.
LOOOOOOL
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On January 28 2012 14:29 puppykiller wrote:Show nested quote +On January 28 2012 05:41 GGzerG wrote:
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all
If it is not to late to sign up ...
ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player Show nested quote +On January 05 2012 05:45 GGzerG wrote:
Rank: D
ICCUP account: GGzerG
Race: Match up player
EDIT : I would like to play on any team that is in need of a player Show nested quote +On December 18 2010 07:11 GGzerG wrote:Hello TL.net ! I'm not making this thread to get the MOD's to add my stream to the TL streamer list, because I am already on the list, i'm actually making this thread just to let people know that I am going to be streaming myself playing BW, so if there is any BW enthusiasts, looking to watch some games, then you might be interested in checking out my stream! I'm not going to be streaming BW all day / all night, just mostly for some time during the day for warmup purposes mainly. So i'll be streaming BW during the day, then streaming SC2 at night ( like I normally do ). I'm not a top player on BW, and I never was. My highest rank was B- before i quit SC1 to go to SC2, now i'm back playing BW ( Just for fun ) , and mainly for warming up purposes ( Because I feel like it helps my apm alot to warmup on BW ) I'll get in as many games as I can, as well I will stream some private replays from players from alot of the good west clans like By , Ever, Sea, [3.33] , [aLive] , Neo.G_ , [ArnC] , n.Die, ect. I'm doing this just for fun and for viewers enjoyment, so if you're interested then come stop by my stream ! www.livestream.com/telecomSC2P.S. - another reason i'm doing this is because i know there are people who enjoy to watch some BW, and theres not many BW streams on TLnet, one of the viewers asked me " why not stream BW you're playing ? " so i thought, hell why not . Especially when i just found out its alot easier to stream BW in windowed mode with your resolution changed. I think I found Scan guys.
So he's D, C AND B- all at the same time? Wow thats gosu....
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