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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 16:58:14
January 27 2012 16:45 GMT
#301
On January 28 2012 01:07 Shimy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 01:06 Jealous wrote:
On January 28 2012 01:05 Shimy wrote:
On January 28 2012 01:01 Jealous wrote:
On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:
On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:
On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.


Same with ISL1 and ISL2.


Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place?

tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again

Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules!

And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first.



sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!

Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name );

Well CobaltBlu didn't sign up with his either What's your sGs account and I'll edit it in

BaBo

And Probe is sGs.Blu

O_O I didn't know this! You should join the skype chat There's like, no protoss to play with haha

Sent a request to l_master, I'm koreangrandma on skype if you can add it sooner.

Also, I believe Cocky is a co-leader? sGs.Cocky?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Shimy
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States771 Posts
January 27 2012 18:52 GMT
#302
On January 28 2012 01:45 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 01:07 Shimy wrote:
On January 28 2012 01:06 Jealous wrote:
On January 28 2012 01:05 Shimy wrote:
On January 28 2012 01:01 Jealous wrote:
On January 28 2012 00:57 Shimy wrote:
On January 28 2012 00:41 1004 wrote:
On January 27 2012 22:35 johny23 wrote:
Iccup 1v1 tournies youre allowed to choose whatever race you want EVERY GAME as long as you say before game starts.


Same with ISL1 and ISL2.


Were playing on iccup and this isnt a proleague tourney so if their crying is special enough to over turn the rules why isn't my crying enough to let typical rules stay in place?

tournament directors will 100% of the time reserve the right to use the rules they want. if you don't like them you can alway leave the tournament, when i see the thread bumped i wanna see more fun trash talk rather than your posts saying the same thing over and over again

Thank you for posting this. I'm sticking to my rules and I have about 4 other people who have signed up and are willing to take your spot if you don't like the rules!

And as for trash talk, THE WHOLE SGS CLAN WILL WIPE THE FLOOR WITH YOU PEOPLE. You heard it here first.



sGs.Yaqoob, CobaltBlue, and sGs.Pie HWAITING!!!!!!!!!!

Aw I shoulda signed up with my sGs name );

Well CobaltBlu didn't sign up with his either What's your sGs account and I'll edit it in

BaBo

And Probe is sGs.Blu

O_O I didn't know this! You should join the skype chat There's like, no protoss to play with haha

Sent a request to l_master, I'm koreangrandma on skype if you can add it sooner.

Also, I believe Cocky is a co-leader? sGs.Cocky?

I sent a request on skype I'm sGs.Shimy on there too
Eywa-: "What would it take in order for there to be an upset?" Largo: "The players of sas got cancer and died, what else could happen?"
SlowBullets
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States839 Posts
January 27 2012 19:18 GMT
#303
Jealous: I am sGs.Probe actually, NOOB.
1:1 go sc2 LAN? Oh wait...
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 27 2012 20:06 GMT
#304
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10666 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 20:42:52
January 27 2012 20:41 GMT
#305
I'm guessing it is too late to sign up for this? Nevertheless cool GL to all

If it is not to late to sign up ...

ICCup Name : TelecoM[Name]
ICCup Rank : C
Race : Matchup player
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Shimy
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States771 Posts
January 27 2012 21:11 GMT
#306
On January 28 2012 05:06 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2012 15:27 Shimy wrote:
I put you down as ZvP, ZvT, and PvZ assuming you didn't want to mirror. Please make something final before the 29th lol I'm kind of tired with everyone just switching or playing different races depending on your mood or whatnot. Just pick a race and practice it. That's what everyone else is doing TT

EDIT: If you are going to play ZvZ, then you should have to play it for the rest of the tourney.


im a pvter, not zvter

ok if thats the rules ill select zvz. i feel like there are more people who are more better at zvp than zvz than i am at pvz over zvz.

so i am zvz zvp pvt

Ok thanks :D
Eywa-: "What would it take in order for there to be an upset?" Largo: "The players of sas got cancer and died, what else could happen?"
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
January 27 2012 21:31 GMT
#307
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Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
January 27 2012 22:25 GMT
#308
I hope they make Jade the motw next week cause I can't get games on it. I'm going to be forced to play on fish server to get practice.
김택용 Fighting!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
January 27 2012 22:37 GMT
#309
just wanted to say that this is awesome

cheers
T H C makes ppl happy
johny23
Profile Joined January 2012
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 22:59:53
January 27 2012 22:58 GMT
#310
Ok, I pm'ed you my races I am playing Shimy.

Also in response to 1004 and everyone else who made a smart comment:

#1 It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. People trying to get rules "Changed" (because YES, originally I was allowed to play the races I wanted) under the guise of "FAIRNESS" when in reality it's unfair to the people who can play multiple races.

#2 To reiterate my point to the person who said "if I don't like the rules" the initial rules WERE allowing me to play the way I wanted to. What don't you understand? Other people crying is what changed them. So stop saying I shouldn't of signed up if I didn't like the rules. It's really a pathetic smart ass comment on your part and not only do I not appreciate it but it also makes no sense.


EDIT: Second point is toward Jealous. Seriously what don't you understand? I WAS allowed to initially play the races I wanted. It's after everyone bitching that I wasn't. How can you be stupid? If you're going to try to be a little smart ass why don't you actually make some sense.
johny23
Profile Joined January 2012
United States175 Posts
January 27 2012 23:03 GMT
#311
Jealous, you have the comprehension level of a peanut. Why would you want to make smart ass comments toward me?

#1 I am not the one that can't play vs multiple races
#2 I am not the one who asked anyone to change any rules that aren't already typical (IE: ICCUP TOURNAMENTS, ISL1, ISL2)
#3 All I want to be able to do is pick which race I want vs which players. It's such a simple thing that the previous mention tournaments allow that I am being denied.
#4 Why can't you make a smart ass comment towards the people who can't play vs multiple races and need a week for their small mind to prepare? Or maybe you're one of the simpletons who can't do it?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:08:42
January 27 2012 23:06 GMT
#312
On January 28 2012 07:58 johny23 wrote:
Ok, I pm'ed you my races I am playing Shimy.

Also in response to 1004 and everyone else who made a smart comment:

#1 It's the hypocrisy that bothers me. People trying to get rules "Changed" (because YES, originally I was allowed to play the races I wanted) under the guise of "FAIRNESS" when in reality it's unfair to the people who can play multiple races.

#2 To reiterate my point to the person who said "if I don't like the rules" the initial rules WERE allowing me to play the way I wanted to. What don't you understand? Other people crying is what changed them. So stop saying I shouldn't of signed up if I didn't like the rules. It's really a pathetic smart ass comment on your part and not only do I not appreciate it but it also makes no sense.



So we're pathetic for telling you to deal with it, whereas you are clearly not... Despite the fact that you have been crying about this in every post like a kid who dropped his ice cream? Instead of whining about it you could have just PM'd Shimy for clarification. But no, you chose to become a public martyr. Sorry that no one sympathized with your selfish "I want to pick my race right before the game sux2beu" attitude. It's clear that Shimy did not understand your intentions, and thought you would be playing random, as you said previously(it is even listed in the OP as such, you know, that post that people refer to know what race to practice against?).

Regardless of all this, I find it highly hypocritical that you blame other people for crying and changing the rules, then try to do the exact same thing. After all this, should I feel offended by anything you've said? Haha.xD

In other words, stop whining and manner up, regardless of whether you think you have/actually have a valid point. I don't even care what your point is, your behavior is childish at best. You keep referring to typical tournament rules, then go fucking play those tournaments. This is Shimy's tournament. What the hell does he care what those ICCup rules are? Is this an ICCup event? No. Lol and you call me the moron.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
johny23
Profile Joined January 2012
United States175 Posts
January 27 2012 23:11 GMT
#313
You don't even get the fundamental concept of my point.... I didn't come here and asked ANYONE to do ANYTHING.

I want to use a function that not only the game allows, but ISL/ISL2 and iccup tournaments allow. Why should I not be able to play the races I want vs the players I want. Can you please answer this?

I am not trying to RESTRICT anyone. Thats the DIFFERENCE. Theyre trying to RESTRICT me. Oh my god LOL how hard is that to comprehend?

For example NB.lumir is apparently very good ZvP. vs him I would of like to chosen T or Z even though I'd prefer to play P vs other players. It's called strategy and since I can play all three races that's my BENEFIT.
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10107 Posts
January 27 2012 23:11 GMT
#314
On January 28 2012 08:03 johny23 wrote:
Jealous, you have the comprehension level of a peanut. Why would you want to make smart ass comments toward me?

#1 I am not the one that can't play vs multiple races
#2 I am not the one who asked anyone to change any rules that aren't already typical (IE: ICCUP TOURNAMENTS, ISL1, ISL2)
#3 All I want to be able to do is pick which race I want vs which players. It's such a simple thing that the previous mention tournaments allow that I am being denied.
#4 Why can't you make a smart ass comment towards the people who can't play vs multiple races and need a week for their small mind to prepare? Or maybe you're one of the simpletons who can't do it?

By the way,

"How about a different question, why do tourney admins have to deal with anyone crying when the rules are very simple? You signed up for the tournament as is."

^ Where in this do you see me refer to your situation in any way? I was referring to the same thing you were: how people whined and got things changed. But now, you come in here guns blazing. Seriously, what ticked you off so bad? Such ridiculous bad manner in response to something that wasn't even offensive, lol.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
johny23
Profile Joined January 2012
United States175 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-27 23:14:58
January 27 2012 23:13 GMT
#315
So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.


Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.

Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10107 Posts
January 27 2012 23:15 GMT
#316
On January 28 2012 08:11 johny23 wrote:
You don't even get the fundamental concept of my point.... I didn't come here and asked ANYONE to do ANYTHING.

I want to use a function that not only the game allows, but ISL/ISL2 and iccup tournaments allow. Why should I not be able to play the races I want vs the players I want. Can you please answer this?

I am not trying to RESTRICT anyone. Thats the DIFFERENCE. Theyre trying to RESTRICT me. Oh my god LOL how hard is that to comprehend?

For example NB.lumir is apparently very good ZvP. vs him I would of like to chosen T or Z even though I'd prefer to play P vs other players. It's called strategy and since I can play all three races that's my BENEFIT.

Wow... So you don't see the impact of choosing your race before the match, based on who you face? I don't know if you've noticed, but that would affect what the other player prepares for. Do you mean to say that as soon as you learn who you will be facing, you will PM them the race you will use against them? If so, that still gives the opponents an unfair disadvantage because you know what race they will be playing as soon as results are posted, whereas they find out your race... Well... Whenever the fuck you feel like telling them? Don't be ridiculous. Just because ISL/ISL2/johny23's shitty tournament/whatever did things differently, doesn't mean you should come in here and cry because things are different. Deal with it. I don't understand what you don't understand either.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10107 Posts
January 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#317
On January 28 2012 08:13 johny23 wrote:
So you stripped away my BENEFIT. So other people can have one week to prepare builds and know their opponents race.


Wow Yes, Sir!! That's some wonderful logic you have telling me to "just deal with it". I didn't try to RESTRICT anyone. You're the ones who "cant deal with it" because you need an Admin to give you one week prep time.


Did you read what I said? I don't even care about you or what race you play. I was referring to the people who whined before you, the same people you complained about. Now, you made it personal, and you also tried to set up a pity party for yourself as well, so you're no better than the aforementioned people in my eyes. I don't need anything, that's the point. I haven't made any requests here. You have. How you can say "I'm not asking anyone to do anything," is beyond me, considering that's all you've done for the past few pages, referring to how rules are in this or that tournament as back-up and scapegoating whiners for the logical decisions made by the administrator. Tough luck, sorry that you can't racepick your way through this tournament and will have to *gasp* actually play a definite match-up vs each race, ensuring equality for all.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
johny23
Profile Joined January 2012
United States175 Posts
January 27 2012 23:18 GMT
#318
On January 28 2012 08:15 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2012 08:11 johny23 wrote:
You don't even get the fundamental concept of my point.... I didn't come here and asked ANYONE to do ANYTHING.

I want to use a function that not only the game allows, but ISL/ISL2 and iccup tournaments allow. Why should I not be able to play the races I want vs the players I want. Can you please answer this?

I am not trying to RESTRICT anyone. Thats the DIFFERENCE. Theyre trying to RESTRICT me. Oh my god LOL how hard is that to comprehend?

For example NB.lumir is apparently very good ZvP. vs him I would of like to chosen T or Z even though I'd prefer to play P vs other players. It's called strategy and since I can play all three races that's my BENEFIT.

Wow... So you don't see the impact of choosing your race before the match, based on who you face? I don't know if you've noticed, but that would affect what the other player prepares for. Do you mean to say that as soon as you learn who you will be facing, you will PM them the race you will use against them? If so, that still gives the opponents an unfair disadvantage because you know what race they will be playing as soon as results are posted, whereas they find out your race... Well... Whenever the fuck you feel like telling them? Don't be ridiculous. Just because ISL/ISL2/johny23's shitty tournament/whatever did things differently, doesn't mean you should come in here and cry because things are different. Deal with it. I don't understand what you don't understand either.



You're entire statement is the same thing as saying. I don't care if you know how to play all three races. We're not going to allow you to get the full benefit of that sorry.

If anyone would of been man enough to say that there wouldn't be a problem. The issue is when it comes under the guise of fairness and how "its not fair to people who only play one race".
1004
Profile Joined December 2010
United States104 Posts
January 27 2012 23:20 GMT
#319
zzz it doesn't matter if you can play all 3 races, pick your best 3 mu for mu and use them, rules are rules. tournament director decides is the end of the story.
johny23
Profile Joined January 2012
United States175 Posts
January 27 2012 23:21 GMT
#320
So now someone will go watch 100 pro replays and copy builds(literally down to the last SCV). This is more quality and entertaining then people making up builds on the fly?
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