• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:53
CEST 17:53
KST 00:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202537Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder9EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced53BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10
StarCraft 2
General
The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Interview with Chris "ChanmanV" Chan Serral wins EWC 2025 Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ"
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers? BW General Discussion Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Scmdraft 2 - 0.9.0 Preview
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
9/11 Anniversary Possible Al Qaeda Attack on 9/11 US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 751 users

[SPL] KT Rolster vs Team 8 - Page 48

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 53 Next
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
January 10 2012 13:29 GMT
#941
This was really sad.
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:43:40
January 10 2012 13:43 GMT
#942
I just wanna cry for JD... I really hope that T8 can pull themselves together... That wasn't even fun at all and I'm a KT fan...
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
January 10 2012 13:52 GMT
#943
What's weird is how unprepared the three T8 players seemed.

They play so little compared to a year ago when they had OSL, MSL, and two Bo7 a week to prepare for the Proleague... Nowadays, they have one game a week, maybe two to prepare.

Yet, Jaehoon didn't know you have to scout the godamn minable entrance to your main on the map he had practiced on, Jaedong didn't watch Flash last game where he exploited the exact same timing window against the same build with the same unit combination, and the only thing Baby could pull was a loosy obsolete 5 facts with badly hidden facts on a map that has like 6 ridges where you have to fight against dragoon holding the high ground between your base and your opponent base, all of that with shitty micro, letting three tanks get sniped.

Do they practice?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
January 10 2012 13:53 GMT
#944
I don't think Jaedong confidence or w/e is as bad as some of you make it out to be...

The timing Flash used is always faked by terrans to force Zergs to make sunkens so JD probably just thought he wouldn't do it since they were cross positioned. Obviously would have been a different game if those early zerglings didn't die for nothing...
LoL is the greatest thing to happen to ESPORS. LoL is the KING of ESPORTS
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 13:58:23
January 10 2012 13:57 GMT
#945
On January 10 2012 21:46 letian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:43 Dakkas wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:36 letian wrote:
JD should go to ACE, Baby to Stars, Sea to KHAN, Killer to KT, others to retire. Everyone is happy


Aren't we blessed with fans like you

You know how to check if a girl likes you or not? Tell her you're going out with a pretty classmate of yours.
And I'm sad, and there is a reason for that. That said, being a fan is not being an ever-happy brick.

Still doesn't change the fact that your comment was damn stupid.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 10 2012 14:02 GMT
#946
I caught a name behind team 8 uniform , it say's Pony maybe that is their new sponsor ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7890 Posts
January 10 2012 14:04 GMT
#947
On January 10 2012 22:53 TrainSamurai wrote:
I don't think Jaedong confidence or w/e is as bad as some of you make it out to be...

The timing Flash used is always faked by terrans to force Zergs to make sunkens so JD probably just thought he wouldn't do it since they were cross positioned. Obviously would have been a different game if those early zerglings didn't die for nothing...

Would be really fine if Flash hadn't annihilated S0o the exact same way a few days ago. It's not misinterpretation it's unprofessional lack of preparation.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
January 10 2012 14:14 GMT
#948
On January 10 2012 23:04 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:53 TrainSamurai wrote:
I don't think Jaedong confidence or w/e is as bad as some of you make it out to be...

The timing Flash used is always faked by terrans to force Zergs to make sunkens so JD probably just thought he wouldn't do it since they were cross positioned. Obviously would have been a different game if those early zerglings didn't die for nothing...

Would be really fine if Flash hadn't annihilated S0o the exact same way a few days ago. It's not misinterpretation it's unprofessional lack of preparation.

The question is why. Why are they so unprepared compared to other teams. Is it because they're exclusively practicing only 1 or 2 match-ups on their assigned maps? It is because the coaches have not been watching the matches of other teams?
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:19:38
January 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#949
On January 10 2012 23:04 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:53 TrainSamurai wrote:
I don't think Jaedong confidence or w/e is as bad as some of you make it out to be...

The timing Flash used is always faked by terrans to force Zergs to make sunkens so JD probably just thought he wouldn't do it since they were cross positioned. Obviously would have been a different game if those early zerglings didn't die for nothing...

Would be really fine if Flash hadn't annihilated S0o the exact same way a few days ago. It's not misinterpretation it's unprofessional lack of preparation.


You know Terran fake this all the time, you know that Flash knows you probably saw the Soo game and think he wouldn't do something like that twice.


What would you have done? Your in cross positions which means flash cannot reinforce, IF JD had 2 sunkens flash attack would have been crushed giving JD free reign of the map negating the point of mutas.

If JD's early zerglings didn't die -> sunkens-> attack crushed. This was probably what flash planned on happening else he wouldn't have a long game strategy.

Even Flash himself said the game was over when he went out unscouted. All i'm saying is relax, JD isn't on the downfall yet.
LoL is the greatest thing to happen to ESPORS. LoL is the KING of ESPORTS
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 10 2012 14:16 GMT
#950
There was no justice today, only misery and sadness in the Starcraft world.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 10 2012 14:18 GMT
#951
KT win's and skt1 cries out that there is no justice in the world today , I love SKT1 fans they never fail to amused me .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
January 10 2012 14:30 GMT
#952
On January 10 2012 23:04 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 22:53 TrainSamurai wrote:
I don't think Jaedong confidence or w/e is as bad as some of you make it out to be...

The timing Flash used is always faked by terrans to force Zergs to make sunkens so JD probably just thought he wouldn't do it since they were cross positioned. Obviously would have been a different game if those early zerglings didn't die for nothing...

Would be really fine if Flash hadn't annihilated S0o the exact same way a few days ago. It's not misinterpretation it's unprofessional lack of preparation.


Why did you invert soO's capitalization? :3

Yeah i agree that's what made it look bad. You could argue that maybe exactly because of that Flash would fake it this time, JD v Flash games always seem to be decided by mindgames fwiw.
I can't imagine they didn't pay attention to our match vs KT or that their practice is bad, it's possible though that their training together isn't as effective as in their old teams and i'm not sure coaching could change it.

On January 10 2012 23:18 Sawamura wrote:
KT win's and skt1 cries out that there is no justice in the world today , I love SKT1 fans they never fail to amused me .


Your meltdown amused us too don't you worry :3
I think this is more a case of everybody being sad for T8.
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 10 2012 14:31 GMT
#953
On the interview on Fomos, Flash said that he prepared a completely different strategy against Jaedong (compared to vs. Soo) but he was able to exploit a small timing window, all because he knows Zergs tend to go overly greedy just to match him in mid- and late- game.

Also his goal is to not lose a single game in the season, we'll see about that haha.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
January 10 2012 14:37 GMT
#954
On January 10 2012 23:30 Shurayuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:04 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:53 TrainSamurai wrote:
I don't think Jaedong confidence or w/e is as bad as some of you make it out to be...

The timing Flash used is always faked by terrans to force Zergs to make sunkens so JD probably just thought he wouldn't do it since they were cross positioned. Obviously would have been a different game if those early zerglings didn't die for nothing...

Would be really fine if Flash hadn't annihilated S0o the exact same way a few days ago. It's not misinterpretation it's unprofessional lack of preparation.


Why did you invert soO's capitalization? :3

Yeah i agree that's what made it look bad. You could argue that maybe exactly because of that Flash would fake it this time, JD v Flash games always seem to be decided by mindgames fwiw.
I can't imagine they didn't pay attention to our match vs KT or that their practice is bad, it's possible though that their training together isn't as effective as in their old teams and i'm not sure coaching could change it.

Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:18 Sawamura wrote:
KT win's and skt1 cries out that there is no justice in the world today , I love SKT1 fans they never fail to amused me .


Your meltdown amused us too don't you worry :3
I think this is more a case of everybody being sad for T8.


I didn't want my team to lose that badly to our dreaded nemesis , so naturally , I overloaded my inhibitors ...... T_T


On January 10 2012 23:31 OpticalShot wrote:
On the interview on Fomos, Flash said that he prepared a completely different strategy against Jaedong (compared to vs. Soo) but he was able to exploit a small timing window, all because he knows Zergs tend to go overly greedy just to match him in mid- and late- game.

Also his goal is to not lose a single game in the season, we'll see about that haha.


Maybe he can do it after all he is Flash the terminator , thanks opti ^_^
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
January 10 2012 14:40 GMT
#955
On January 10 2012 23:31 OpticalShot wrote:
On the interview on Fomos, Flash said that he prepared a completely different strategy against Jaedong (compared to vs. Soo) but he was able to exploit a small timing window, all because he knows Zergs tend to go overly greedy just to match him in mid- and late- game.

Also his goal is to not lose a single game in the season, we'll see about that haha.


Not to lose a single game. Damn. But he can do it! I'm happy that Flash won but I'm really disappointing with Jaedong who died within 7 minutes of a game. Really? That was FvJ?
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
January 10 2012 14:44 GMT
#956
On January 10 2012 21:27 konadora wrote:
looks like team 8... was termin8ed
Im going to hell for laughing at this
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:48:29
January 10 2012 14:46 GMT
#957
On January 10 2012 23:37 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:30 Shurayuki wrote:
On January 10 2012 23:04 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On January 10 2012 22:53 TrainSamurai wrote:
I don't think Jaedong confidence or w/e is as bad as some of you make it out to be...

The timing Flash used is always faked by terrans to force Zergs to make sunkens so JD probably just thought he wouldn't do it since they were cross positioned. Obviously would have been a different game if those early zerglings didn't die for nothing...

Would be really fine if Flash hadn't annihilated S0o the exact same way a few days ago. It's not misinterpretation it's unprofessional lack of preparation.


Why did you invert soO's capitalization? :3

Yeah i agree that's what made it look bad. You could argue that maybe exactly because of that Flash would fake it this time, JD v Flash games always seem to be decided by mindgames fwiw.
I can't imagine they didn't pay attention to our match vs KT or that their practice is bad, it's possible though that their training together isn't as effective as in their old teams and i'm not sure coaching could change it.

On January 10 2012 23:18 Sawamura wrote:
KT win's and skt1 cries out that there is no justice in the world today , I love SKT1 fans they never fail to amused me .


Your meltdown amused us too don't you worry :3
I think this is more a case of everybody being sad for T8.


I didn't want my team to lose that badly to our dreaded nemesis , so naturally , I overloaded my inhibitors ...... T_T


Yeah we know how that feels, in more imprtant matches even...
Was just getting worried with richter dancing around at the same time and lashing out pretty heavily. We need every single person in BW section^^

mnesthes as a KT fan your soul is doomed already either way ;3
and guess who's waiting there for you! + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On January 10 2012 23:40 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:31 OpticalShot wrote:
On the interview on Fomos, Flash said that he prepared a completely different strategy against Jaedong (compared to vs. Soo) but he was able to exploit a small timing window, all because he knows Zergs tend to go overly greedy just to match him in mid- and late- game.

Also his goal is to not lose a single game in the season, we'll see about that haha.


Not to lose a single game. Damn. But he can do it! I'm happy that Flash won but I'm really disappointing with Jaedong who died within 7 minutes of a game. Really? That was FvJ?


It's interesting because i feel that due to the fact that we don't have ace games anymore, the chance for him to get sniped decreased immensely. He could actually do it.
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
January 10 2012 14:49 GMT
#958
On January 10 2012 22:03 Hyde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 21:43 letian wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:39 Hyde wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:36 letian wrote:
JD should go to ACE, Baby to Stars, Sea to KHAN, Killer to KT, others to retire. Everyone is happy

I will not be happy with 7 teams in the PL, players retiring also don't make me happy. I'm pretty sure Ryo wouldn't be happy with Jaehoon and Tyson retiring either, along with their practice partners, so that's not everyone.

How can anyone be happy with another team disbanding

On January 10 2012 21:33 Shurayuki wrote:
On January 10 2012 21:30 KenNage wrote:
even kt fans should know that this was not a good thing :/


Beating Team8 is like beating a cute little kitten :{

It's a catch22 too, without a sponsor T8 might never get out of their mindblock, but if they don't perform they might never get a sponsor...urk

Such a vicious cycle

I'm being sarcastic, something T1 fan will never feel towards their team.
But if T8 will lose once again, I'll start insisting to solve this predicament.

Sarcasm doesn't travel well over the internet I'm afraid, I'm also not entirely sure to what your last sentence is referring to, the predicament of T8 or SKT fans not feeling sarcasm towards their own team? I don't even know what I'm replying to to be honest.

Oh, I was submerged into my own thoughts too much. The predicament of T8 loosing, the situation they got themselves into.
It was hard to see these games today, a bad dream to come true.
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 14:52:40
January 10 2012 14:50 GMT
#959
ohhhh fuck, closing my eyes as I type this bu tthere's fucking flash vs. JD, doing everything ot not get spoilered and waiting for the English cast. Please JD, just today (yesterday), don't play like the team8 JD but play like the Oz one.

I'd be excited for Stats vs Baby too, but its Baby's TvP so it probably wasn't close.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
January 10 2012 14:51 GMT
#960
On January 10 2012 23:40 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2012 23:31 OpticalShot wrote:
On the interview on Fomos, Flash said that he prepared a completely different strategy against Jaedong (compared to vs. Soo) but he was able to exploit a small timing window, all because he knows Zergs tend to go overly greedy just to match him in mid- and late- game.

Also his goal is to not lose a single game in the season, we'll see about that haha.


Not to lose a single game. Damn. But he can do it! I'm happy that Flash won but I'm really disappointing with Jaedong who died within 7 minutes of a game. Really? That was FvJ?


Remember all those finals?

Hyyyyyyyyyype.

...

._.
Prev 1 46 47 48 49 50 53 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
14:00
Playoff - Day 2/2 - Final
Mihu vs FengziLIVE!
Dewalt vs BonythLIVE!
ZZZero.O301
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .280
SpeCial 166
mcanning 104
ProTech55
MindelVK 44
ForJumy 37
BRAT_OK 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5604
Stork 922
Horang2 881
Mini 774
Hyuk 674
ggaemo 333
ZZZero.O 301
firebathero 293
Mong 278
hero 181
[ Show more ]
Larva 166
Leta 110
ToSsGirL 85
Zeus 69
Sea.KH 28
Terrorterran 18
Sharp 11
Dota 2
Gorgc5685
qojqva3643
420jenkins1667
LuMiX1
League of Legends
Reynor83
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv8673
fl0m4232
ScreaM1094
sgares303
oskar120
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor528
Liquid`Hasu422
Other Games
Happy402
mouzStarbuck185
ArmadaUGS136
JuggernautJason10
Organizations
StarCraft 2
WardiTV43
Other Games
BasetradeTV32
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH126
• Gemini_19 83
• davetesta48
• Reevou 8
• iHatsuTV 3
• Kozan
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix13
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV835
League of Legends
• Jankos1669
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
7m
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
HeRoMaRinE vs MaxPax
Wardi Open
19h 7m
OSC
1d 8h
Stormgate Nexus
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
HCC Europe
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.