s2 almost had that. tsk tsk. leta will his nice defense -_-
macro lords battling each other = EPIC
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pinkranger15
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s2 almost had that. tsk tsk. leta will his nice defense -_- macro lords battling each other = EPIC | ||
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VGhost
United States3613 Posts
In regular leagues, Bisu's PvZ win-rate for ALL OF 2011 is 85.71% (24-4). (If you include the prelim loss to hyvaa it drops to 25-6, which is "only" 80.65%.) I know people talk about JD and Flash's mirror winrates and stuff, but this is something nobody else even begins to challenge: since it's not a mirror, there's not even the "but xyz player can beat him there" thing. Was Flash's TvZ comparable? | ||
Zona
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chisuri
Vietnam789 Posts
On January 01 2012 00:10 VGhost wrote: Running through results, this deserves mention: In regular leagues, Bisu's PvZ win-rate for ALL OF 2011 is 85.71% (24-4). (If you include the prelim loss to hyvaa it drops to 25-6, which is "only" 80.65%.) I know people talk about JD and Flash's mirror winrates and stuff, but this is something nobody else even begins to challenge: since it's not a mirror, there's not even the "but xyz player can beat him there" thing. Was Flash's TvZ comparable? No, he lost to JD all the ways the last few months. | ||
Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On January 01 2012 00:10 VGhost wrote: Running through results, this deserves mention: In regular leagues, Bisu's PvZ win-rate for ALL OF 2011 is 85.71% (24-4). (If you include the prelim loss to hyvaa it drops to 25-6, which is "only" 80.65%.) I know people talk about JD and Flash's mirror winrates and stuff, but this is something nobody else even begins to challenge: since it's not a mirror, there's not even the "but xyz player can beat him there" thing. Was Flash's TvZ comparable? It's definitely the most unique matchup. While Flash is arguably more dominant in TvT (which I believe is the most taxing matchup to play given the intricacies involved), ZvP has historically favored Z in nearly all respects, which makes Bisu's performance in it so much more remarkable than Flash's sheer dominance. The fact that the 2nd best ZvPer is astronomically below Bisu attests to this. It's art, plain and simple, and Bisu is the only one with the vision to create a masterpiece. | ||
Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On January 01 2012 01:17 Caladbolg wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2012 00:10 VGhost wrote: Running through results, this deserves mention: In regular leagues, Bisu's PvZ win-rate for ALL OF 2011 is 85.71% (24-4). (If you include the prelim loss to hyvaa it drops to 25-6, which is "only" 80.65%.) I know people talk about JD and Flash's mirror winrates and stuff, but this is something nobody else even begins to challenge: since it's not a mirror, there's not even the "but xyz player can beat him there" thing. Was Flash's TvZ comparable? It's definitely the most unique matchup. While Flash is arguably more dominant in TvT (which I believe is the most taxing matchup to play given the intricacies involved), ZvP has historically favored Z in nearly all respects, which makes Bisu's performance in it so much more remarkable than Flash's sheer dominance. The fact that the 2nd best ZvPer is astronomically below Bisu attests to this. It's art, plain and simple, and Bisu is the only one with the vision to create a masterpiece. Sadly his vision doesn't transfer to his PvT. | ||
Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On January 01 2012 00:10 VGhost wrote: Running through results, this deserves mention: In regular leagues, Bisu's PvZ win-rate for ALL OF 2011 is 85.71% (24-4). (If you include the prelim loss to hyvaa it drops to 25-6, which is "only" 80.65%.) I know people talk about JD and Flash's mirror winrates and stuff, but this is something nobody else even begins to challenge: since it's not a mirror, there's not even the "but xyz player can beat him there" thing. Was Flash's TvZ comparable? Flash's TvT in 2010-11 Proleague + Winners league is 27-4 (87.1%). If you include 2011 Starleagues it drops to 34-6 (85%). Mirror winrates shouldn't be discarded, arguably there's more of a luck/bo loss factor and players who completely dominate them are rare. Besides, Flash's best vs Z streak is 19 wins (he went 25-2 vs Z for a part of '09). Bisu's is 9. | ||
Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On January 01 2012 01:47 Sawamura wrote: Show nested quote + On January 01 2012 01:17 Caladbolg wrote: On January 01 2012 00:10 VGhost wrote: Running through results, this deserves mention: In regular leagues, Bisu's PvZ win-rate for ALL OF 2011 is 85.71% (24-4). (If you include the prelim loss to hyvaa it drops to 25-6, which is "only" 80.65%.) I know people talk about JD and Flash's mirror winrates and stuff, but this is something nobody else even begins to challenge: since it's not a mirror, there's not even the "but xyz player can beat him there" thing. Was Flash's TvZ comparable? It's definitely the most unique matchup. While Flash is arguably more dominant in TvT (which I believe is the most taxing matchup to play given the intricacies involved), ZvP has historically favored Z in nearly all respects, which makes Bisu's performance in it so much more remarkable than Flash's sheer dominance. The fact that the 2nd best ZvPer is astronomically below Bisu attests to this. It's art, plain and simple, and Bisu is the only one with the vision to create a masterpiece. Sadly his vision doesn't transfer to his PvT. His PvT is, nevertheless, top tier. By a significant margin, his current PvT is the highest. | ||
Veles
United States3280 Posts
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
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darkmetal505
United States639 Posts
On December 31 2011 20:34 kamikami wrote: Just watched Bisu vs Effort. Bisu used the build that he created during the Effort's retirement and Effort wasn't prepared for that lol. BTW the way Effort played ZvP is very weird, he used lot and lot of lings and scourges instead of hydras. Effort usually goes lurker/ling in ZvP. That 3rd position looks hard to defend. Dunno why Effort/JD chose it. Wide open so dragoons/storms do most damage. Bisu's army was monstrous though. I didn't think Effort would've been able to hold anyway. | ||
reincremate
China2213 Posts
On December 31 2011 14:16 shaftofpleasure wrote: Haters wont accept Horang2 losing to Best despite hidden expo. lol Blame Horang2 for his incompetence. lol Show nested quote + On December 31 2011 14:14 reincremate wrote: On December 31 2011 14:10 Lightwip wrote: Ninja is not found But Best still wins with his skill Rejoice, Brood War fans! My haikus now end I must return to physics But enjoy this win. Why horang2 Lost Otherwise Epic PvP herp derp unit comp dark archons and few HTs feedback HTs late So you are implying that this PvP wasn't EPIC? Best's BO was a directly countered by Horang2's BO, yet, Best managed to dish out 11 probes. Horang2 with a hidden expo and still manages to lose every single engagement they had. Also, Best had 0 intel over his enemy, he was defending a drop from Horang2 that never happened. And Horang2 decided it was wise to fight uphill. It's not unit comp nor the use of DA. It was Horang2 incompetence despite having a considerable lead that made this game Epic. I said it was an epic PvP. Horang2's unit composition and bad engagements weren't epic though. I wasn't giving a full explanation as to why horang2 lost for as there's not enough room in a haiku. | ||
Count9
China10928 Posts
On January 01 2012 00:10 VGhost wrote: Running through results, this deserves mention: In regular leagues, Bisu's PvZ win-rate for ALL OF 2011 is 85.71% (24-4). (If you include the prelim loss to hyvaa it drops to 25-6, which is "only" 80.65%.) I know people talk about JD and Flash's mirror winrates and stuff, but this is something nobody else even begins to challenge: since it's not a mirror, there's not even the "but xyz player can beat him there" thing. Was Flash's TvZ comparable? Why do Bisu fans keep masochistically comparing him to Flash, trying to find justification that he's as good as Flash? | ||
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