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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45017 Posts
December 25 2011 13:47 GMT
#1001
On December 25 2011 21:09 Jackal03 wrote:
awesome, i love it how stx was been seen as a "weak" team and just crushed

there is no weak team in this proleague, if you don't take the adversary seriously you'll lose. This kinda thing that makes BW so good

GJ stx, i'm happy the team is recovering


That's a good point. Every team can seriously beat every team. (gogo ACE! ^^)

Congratulations to STX, although I'm obviously quite sad that Bisu/ Best/ Fanta lost x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
December 25 2011 14:03 GMT
#1002
Man this season is killing my liquibets and fantasy prolague lol. Loving the upsets though. So sickkkkk.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
December 25 2011 14:16 GMT
#1003
+ Show Spoiler +
HUAHUAHUAHAUHAUSHUAHSUAHUSHAUSHUAHAUSHUAHSU


brain zerg #1

:>
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
December 25 2011 14:55 GMT
#1004
What a thread to wake up to on Christmas morning. Bogus fighting!!! ^^
Kieofire
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1809 Posts
December 25 2011 15:03 GMT
#1005
What a surprise, I went to sleep after the Last vs Fantasy match, I thought SKT would be able to reverse the score then win. Turns out I was so wrong and should of stayed up to watch it.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
December 25 2011 15:05 GMT
#1006
Hahaha, this is one of the funniest LR thread in a while. Awesome work with the poster Hyde, I can't stop smiling.

Gratz to STX and their fans, well deserved win!
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
December 25 2011 15:11 GMT
#1007
That poster totally jinxed it!
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
December 25 2011 15:27 GMT
#1008
I don't believe it
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
December 25 2011 15:42 GMT
#1009
STX to the finals. TO THE FINALS.
Hyvaa #1 Fan. Gogo STX, Dear, Bogus, Classic, and Mini! Always a BW fan!
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
December 25 2011 15:55 GMT
#1010
Nice, STX had the best possible line up vs SKT. I love this season, every team can beat every other team.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
December 25 2011 16:16 GMT
#1011
The ironing is delicious.
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
December 25 2011 16:29 GMT
#1012
This is Hyde's fault. He jinxed it bad. We got smoked hard
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
Air2gear
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
177 Posts
December 25 2011 16:46 GMT
#1013
Wow, I was really surprised when I saw the result. Damn, I skipped this match because I thought it would be a walkover. I'm going to start to watch every match from now on.
WTFTerran
Profile Joined November 2011
Russian Federation286 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 17:20:27
December 25 2011 17:16 GMT
#1014
Yeah, (T)Bogus is good at TvP, but i think that his best matchup is TvZ
coz he have a nice games with bio and good mech, last tvz versus (Z)Neo.G_Soulkey was AMAZING CRAZY AWESOME game (of course sad that Bogus lost) At least, he won against (Z)Jaedong, besides he have a lot of cool and clear TvZ games
Bogus, MKP, Bomber FTW!
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 25 2011 17:16 GMT
#1015
On December 26 2011 01:46 Air2gear wrote:
Wow, I was really surprised when I saw the result. Damn, I skipped this match because I thought it would be a walkover. I'm going to start to watch every match from now on.


NEVER assume a match is going to be a walkover.

Even if SKT 3-0'd STX there's a chance for really great games to be played.


watch 100% of BW is what I'm trying to say here :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
babysuperga
Profile Joined November 2011
Vietnam49 Posts
December 25 2011 17:20 GMT
#1016
It is fun. I thought SKT wouldn't lose.

I'm looking forward to see CJ beaten like this.
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 25 2011 17:54 GMT
#1017
On December 25 2011 21:50 aupstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 21:05 Oystein wrote:
On December 25 2011 20:07 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:44 oBlade wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:22 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:18 kamikami wrote:
Yeah, send a protoss on sniper ridge against a terran despite heavy warning from Stork, what an awesome strategy Park.
I don't know what you're smoking but Bisu scouted 5fact from Bogus and even gave up control of the 2 ridges between the 2 bases. Apparently TvP is imbalanced when you lose to a scouted 5 fact timing.

By.Sun scouted Turn's 5 fact and lost, too.
But a player of Bisu's caliber shouldn't have too much trouble against Bogus's build (and also given his recent history against Bogus)

5fac all in with scv cut after a rax-cc opener is pretty much a hardcounter to 1gate triple nexus. Could bisu have handled it better? Sure he could (trying to stall on the last 2 ridges for example), but despite scouting it, cutting probes and just massing gates forgoing any tech he still got raped pretty easily. No idea why people are actually recommending this game as its just a perfect example of a well executed attack from a highly advantagous build order.


This is a brilliant game with an excellently executed timing push.

Bisu scouts with his probe in the wrong direction and eventually sees that the terran has fast expanded. Given his scouting information came so late Bisu had already gone gate first to defend early aggression and so was behind. He needed to catch up economically or do some good damage. He did this by going 3 nex and trying to snipe the bunker (which was saved by taking a marine out to take hits <- awesome play).

Now the strat that bogus employed is meant to hard counter fast 3rd nex and was somewhat allin. The best way for a protoss to stop such a strat is to stay on 2 base but alas bisu was greedy and this did not happen. Some excellent micro was displayed by bogus during his push preserving his tanks and pushing carefully. The distance between the bases isn't that long either, so the damage caused by such a push is greater as the protoss cannot force seige/unseige to squeeze out units.

There was a high probability that a strong push can happen given the spawning locations so perhaps bisus gamble on the third base may have been a bit much.

Regardless,

wp bogus

wp stx

gg

NB: This is all from memory of watching it live. I do not guarantee 100% accuracy for my analysis.

I guess we just have different views on what makes a good match then, personally I do enjoy watching all BW but when I am looking for recommended games I want games that are exciting, for example close games, games with lots of action or something unorthodox happening. Watching someone ride a big BO advantage to an easy victory is not what I want to watch if I dont have the time to watch all games and just look for whats recommended. This game is basicly the same as watching a ZvZ where someone goes defensive overgas against 9pool speed and just wins because of more mutas in the first engagement.

As for the bunkersave, while kind of cute he should never ever have gotten in a spot where his bunker could almost die and he was actually never in danger of losing it. Its pretty simple, 1 scv repairing for each goon attacking the bunker will keep your bunker at constant health, if your a pro and lose your bunker against 3goons you have fucked up beyond words. Bogus did have 3 on repair so he would not have lost it anyway even tho it was close and he obviously got stressed by it.

Maybe its just me but I dont find short, one sided games that are ridden on a big BO advantage to be something to recommend too others
God Hates a Coward
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 25 2011 18:13 GMT
#1018
ROFL FBB WTF.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
December 25 2011 18:57 GMT
#1019
Last + Calm + Bogus > Fantasy + BeSt + Bisu? Holy shit.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
December 25 2011 19:03 GMT
#1020
Soo needs better teammates, IMO.
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