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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 25 2011 10:47 GMT
#981
It's not just here, I'm sure I could pull up plenty of posts I recall from last season..

Either way it doesn't bug me, because
a) it's quite funny
b) STX won

My feelings aren't hurt. Besides, it's a compliment, you hardly ever have to deal with losses cause SKT hardly ever loses :p
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 11:00:49
December 25 2011 10:51 GMT
#982
On December 23 2011 18:55 George_the_man wrote:
i promise ill be good if skt losses!


aw shit i just found my old post .. NOOOOOOOOOO
edit: just noticed that all 3 players from this awesome banner have lost , that is just epic
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
December 25 2011 10:53 GMT
#983
Ahah omgwtfbbq what the fuck happened here asfnighpiojhsdoj
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
December 25 2011 11:01 GMT
#984
LOL I JUST SKIMMED THE LR THREAD.

LEGEND OF THE BANNER AHAHAHA
TranslatorBaa!
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
December 25 2011 11:03 GMT
#985
WAIT, WHAT?

Rofl soO won. Today is damn weird.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
December 25 2011 11:04 GMT
#986
On December 25 2011 19:51 George_the_man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2011 18:55 George_the_man wrote:
i promise ill be good if skt losses!


aw shit i just found my old post .. NOOOOOOOOOO
edit: just noticed that all 3 players from this awesome banner have lost , that is just epic


You have to be good :D
SirJolt: Well maybe if you weren't so big and stupid, it wouldn't have hit you.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
December 25 2011 11:07 GMT
#987
On December 25 2011 18:44 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 18:22 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:18 kamikami wrote:
Yeah, send a protoss on sniper ridge against a terran despite heavy warning from Stork, what an awesome strategy Park.
I don't know what you're smoking but Bisu scouted 5fact from Bogus and even gave up control of the 2 ridges between the 2 bases. Apparently TvP is imbalanced when you lose to a scouted 5 fact timing.

By.Sun scouted Turn's 5 fact and lost, too.
But a player of Bisu's caliber shouldn't have too much trouble against Bogus's build (and also given his recent history against Bogus)
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
FourFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
701 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 11:25:48
December 25 2011 11:13 GMT
#988
Oh shit, they have their own songs ... pphahahahha bisu should listen to some cooler music imo -_- Might help him out of his slump
I don't know, lynch me!
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
December 25 2011 12:05 GMT
#989
On December 25 2011 20:07 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 18:44 oBlade wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:22 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:18 kamikami wrote:
Yeah, send a protoss on sniper ridge against a terran despite heavy warning from Stork, what an awesome strategy Park.
I don't know what you're smoking but Bisu scouted 5fact from Bogus and even gave up control of the 2 ridges between the 2 bases. Apparently TvP is imbalanced when you lose to a scouted 5 fact timing.

By.Sun scouted Turn's 5 fact and lost, too.
But a player of Bisu's caliber shouldn't have too much trouble against Bogus's build (and also given his recent history against Bogus)

5fac all in with scv cut after a rax-cc opener is pretty much a hardcounter to 1gate triple nexus. Could bisu have handled it better? Sure he could (trying to stall on the last 2 ridges for example), but despite scouting it, cutting probes and just massing gates forgoing any tech he still got raped pretty easily. No idea why people are actually recommending this game as its just a perfect example of a well executed attack from a highly advantagous build order.
God Hates a Coward
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
December 25 2011 12:09 GMT
#990
Wow, I guess it's your turn to have a 3 loss streak this time.

Someone should bump the Sacko Bowl thread
KT > CJ
STX > SKT
ACE > Currently #1 Khan
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Jackal03
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil7469 Posts
December 25 2011 12:09 GMT
#991
awesome, i love it how stx was been seen as a "weak" team and just crushed

there is no weak team in this proleague, if you don't take the adversary seriously you'll lose. This kinda thing that makes BW so good

GJ stx, i'm happy the team is recovering
BW is back
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
December 25 2011 12:26 GMT
#992
haha, some skt fans are butt hurt
good job STX!

+ Show Spoiler +
Kal won too! former STX
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
December 25 2011 12:31 GMT
#993
noooooooooo !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
December 25 2011 12:50 GMT
#994
On December 25 2011 21:05 Oystein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 20:07 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:44 oBlade wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:22 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:18 kamikami wrote:
Yeah, send a protoss on sniper ridge against a terran despite heavy warning from Stork, what an awesome strategy Park.
I don't know what you're smoking but Bisu scouted 5fact from Bogus and even gave up control of the 2 ridges between the 2 bases. Apparently TvP is imbalanced when you lose to a scouted 5 fact timing.

By.Sun scouted Turn's 5 fact and lost, too.
But a player of Bisu's caliber shouldn't have too much trouble against Bogus's build (and also given his recent history against Bogus)

5fac all in with scv cut after a rax-cc opener is pretty much a hardcounter to 1gate triple nexus. Could bisu have handled it better? Sure he could (trying to stall on the last 2 ridges for example), but despite scouting it, cutting probes and just massing gates forgoing any tech he still got raped pretty easily. No idea why people are actually recommending this game as its just a perfect example of a well executed attack from a highly advantagous build order.


This is a brilliant game with an excellently executed timing push.

Bisu scouts with his probe in the wrong direction and eventually sees that the terran has fast expanded. Given his scouting information came so late Bisu had already gone gate first to defend early aggression and so was behind. He needed to catch up economically or do some good damage. He did this by going 3 nex and trying to snipe the bunker (which was saved by taking a marine out to take hits <- awesome play).

Now the strat that bogus employed is meant to hard counter fast 3rd nex and was somewhat allin. The best way for a protoss to stop such a strat is to stay on 2 base but alas bisu was greedy and this did not happen. Some excellent micro was displayed by bogus during his push preserving his tanks and pushing carefully. The distance between the bases isn't that long either, so the damage caused by such a push is greater as the protoss cannot force seige/unseige to squeeze out units.

There was a high probability that a strong push can happen given the spawning locations so perhaps bisus gamble on the third base may have been a bit much.

Regardless,

wp bogus

wp stx

gg

NB: This is all from memory of watching it live. I do not guarantee 100% accuracy for my analysis.
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-25 12:55:54
December 25 2011 12:55 GMT
#995
On December 25 2011 21:50 aupstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 25 2011 21:05 Oystein wrote:
On December 25 2011 20:07 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:44 oBlade wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:22 mnesthes wrote:
On December 25 2011 18:18 kamikami wrote:
Yeah, send a protoss on sniper ridge against a terran despite heavy warning from Stork, what an awesome strategy Park.
I don't know what you're smoking but Bisu scouted 5fact from Bogus and even gave up control of the 2 ridges between the 2 bases. Apparently TvP is imbalanced when you lose to a scouted 5 fact timing.

By.Sun scouted Turn's 5 fact and lost, too.
But a player of Bisu's caliber shouldn't have too much trouble against Bogus's build (and also given his recent history against Bogus)

5fac all in with scv cut after a rax-cc opener is pretty much a hardcounter to 1gate triple nexus. Could bisu have handled it better? Sure he could (trying to stall on the last 2 ridges for example), but despite scouting it, cutting probes and just massing gates forgoing any tech he still got raped pretty easily. No idea why people are actually recommending this game as its just a perfect example of a well executed attack from a highly advantagous build order.


This is a brilliant game with an excellently executed timing push.

Bisu scouts with his probe in the wrong direction and eventually sees that the terran has fast expanded. Given his scouting information came so late Bisu had already gone gate first to defend early aggression and so was behind. He needed to catch up economically or do some good damage. He did this by going 3 nex and trying to snipe the bunker (which was saved by taking a marine out to take hits <- awesome play).

Now the strat that bogus employed is meant to hard counter fast 3rd nex and was somewhat allin. The best way for a protoss to stop such a strat is to stay on 2 base but alas bisu was greedy and this did not happen. Some excellent micro was displayed by bogus during his push preserving his tanks and pushing carefully. The distance between the bases isn't that long either, so the damage caused by such a push is greater as the protoss cannot force seige/unseige to squeeze out units.

There was a high probability that a strong push can happen given the spawning locations so perhaps bisus gamble on the third base may have been a bit much.



Good analysis. BTW I think that Bisu must gamble on the 3rd because he was economically behind and cannot rest on 2 bases.
Khassar de Templari
icclown
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Denmark270 Posts
December 25 2011 12:57 GMT
#996
I was even taking notes in the bisu game: how many gates, when to take 3rd, shuttle after 1-2 obs.. I was thinking, "Aha, so this is how you do it.... no wait... wtf?"
He who controls the past commands the future, He who commands the future, conquers the past. BUFFER INTO GG
George_the_man
Profile Joined May 2011
796 Posts
December 25 2011 13:18 GMT
#997
On December 25 2011 21:09 NicksonReyes wrote:
Wow, I guess it's your turn to have a 3 loss streak this time.

Someone should bump the Sacko Bowl thread
KT > CJ
STX > SKT
ACE > Currently #1 Khan


as a KT fan u should not be that surprised KT beated CJ... i mean its KT it can beat everyone with no problem and loose to everyone right?
ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
December 25 2011 13:28 GMT
#998
what the fuck
the courage to be a lazy bum
VGhost
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3616 Posts
December 25 2011 13:31 GMT
#999
I just want to say...

On December 24 2011 04:09 VGhost wrote:
I liquibet STX and I have no idea why.

On the other hand, I usually have no idea why, and it's working well so far. So STX fans maybe you have hope...


(Of course I also liquibet KHAN, so...)
#4427 || I am not going to scan a ferret.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
December 25 2011 13:33 GMT
#1000
On December 25 2011 22:31 VGhost wrote:
I just want to say...

Show nested quote +
On December 24 2011 04:09 VGhost wrote:
I liquibet STX and I have no idea why.

On the other hand, I usually have no idea why, and it's working well so far. So STX fans maybe you have hope...


(Of course I also liquibet KHAN, so...)

You I have to thank for cheering me up before the match started. Thank you!
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
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