• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:50
CET 08:50
KST 16:50
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT24Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book16Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0226LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16)46Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker16
StarCraft 2
General
Liquipedia WCS Portal Launched ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Kaelaris on the futue of SC2 and much more... How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) How do the "codes" work in GSL? Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals (Feb 10-16) Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 512 Overclocked Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth
Brood War
General
A new season just kicks off CasterMuse Youtube TvZ is the most complete match up BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/02
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
ZeroSpace Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Ask and answer stupid questions here! Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Inside the Communication of …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2483 users

[SPL] KT Rolster vs SKTelecom T1 - Page 136

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 134 135 136 137 Next
mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
December 10 2011 13:41 GMT
#2701
At least KT wins when something big is really on the line
R.I.P. CheckSix
catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
December 10 2011 13:42 GMT
#2702
On December 10 2011 11:23 Seraphic wrote:
You KT fans need to relax. 3 games in and you guys are destroying your coach, whom have won with the same line-up twice in a row for Grand Finals.

His choice and plan was right. I would have done so if I was in his shoes. Both games before this, KT had issues closing other teams out because Stats and Flash was sent so early. So he saved Flash and hope KT can take it to 5th, which they SHOULD have done. It's the players whom didn't come through. If BeSt have lost to CH, would most likely have been FlaSh vs Fantasy. It didn't happen. You need 3 wins regardless, it won't matter if you sent Flash early or not if your team cannot win the 3rd one.

KT will be fine once there players heat up. It's what happened last season, so expect it.


The only reason KT made the playoffs last year was b/c of 2 rounds of Winner League where they went like 17-1. Rest of the time, ACE had a better record. KT is not making the playoffs in this format. End of story.
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
December 10 2011 14:22 GMT
#2703
On December 10 2011 09:55 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Where's Fantasy??? He hasn't played at all this season right???

Yes, I'm actually disappointed with this.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50631 Posts
December 10 2011 15:07 GMT
#2704
On December 10 2011 22:42 catabowl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 11:23 Seraphic wrote:
You KT fans need to relax. 3 games in and you guys are destroying your coach, whom have won with the same line-up twice in a row for Grand Finals.

His choice and plan was right. I would have done so if I was in his shoes. Both games before this, KT had issues closing other teams out because Stats and Flash was sent so early. So he saved Flash and hope KT can take it to 5th, which they SHOULD have done. It's the players whom didn't come through. If BeSt have lost to CH, would most likely have been FlaSh vs Fantasy. It didn't happen. You need 3 wins regardless, it won't matter if you sent Flash early or not if your team cannot win the 3rd one.

KT will be fine once there players heat up. It's what happened last season, so expect it.


The only reason KT made the playoffs last year was b/c of 2 rounds of Winner League where they went like 17-1. Rest of the time, ACE had a better record. KT is not making the playoffs in this format. End of story.

lol if you say so.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TensaiSakuragi
Profile Joined November 2011
Croatia224 Posts
December 10 2011 16:11 GMT
#2705
On December 10 2011 22:41 mavsfan0041 wrote:
At least KT wins when something big is really on the line


If they continue like this they won't even reach the "big" and important matches
henzi
Profile Joined November 2010
United States200 Posts
December 10 2011 16:21 GMT
#2706
On December 11 2011 00:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 22:42 catabowl wrote:
On December 10 2011 11:23 Seraphic wrote:
You KT fans need to relax. 3 games in and you guys are destroying your coach, whom have won with the same line-up twice in a row for Grand Finals.

His choice and plan was right. I would have done so if I was in his shoes. Both games before this, KT had issues closing other teams out because Stats and Flash was sent so early. So he saved Flash and hope KT can take it to 5th, which they SHOULD have done. It's the players whom didn't come through. If BeSt have lost to CH, would most likely have been FlaSh vs Fantasy. It didn't happen. You need 3 wins regardless, it won't matter if you sent Flash early or not if your team cannot win the 3rd one.

KT will be fine once there players heat up. It's what happened last season, so expect it.


The only reason KT made the playoffs last year was b/c of 2 rounds of Winner League where they went like 17-1. Rest of the time, ACE had a better record. KT is not making the playoffs in this format. End of story.

lol if you say so.


but its a fact though, not that flash was that big an asset in last years winners league run
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50631 Posts
December 10 2011 16:41 GMT
#2707
On December 11 2011 01:21 henzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 00:07 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On December 10 2011 22:42 catabowl wrote:
On December 10 2011 11:23 Seraphic wrote:
You KT fans need to relax. 3 games in and you guys are destroying your coach, whom have won with the same line-up twice in a row for Grand Finals.

His choice and plan was right. I would have done so if I was in his shoes. Both games before this, KT had issues closing other teams out because Stats and Flash was sent so early. So he saved Flash and hope KT can take it to 5th, which they SHOULD have done. It's the players whom didn't come through. If BeSt have lost to CH, would most likely have been FlaSh vs Fantasy. It didn't happen. You need 3 wins regardless, it won't matter if you sent Flash early or not if your team cannot win the 3rd one.

KT will be fine once there players heat up. It's what happened last season, so expect it.


The only reason KT made the playoffs last year was b/c of 2 rounds of Winner League where they went like 17-1. Rest of the time, ACE had a better record. KT is not making the playoffs in this format. End of story.

lol if you say so.


but its a fact though, not that flash was that big an asset in last years winners league run


sure KT only made it because of their WL run, but right now KT on paper is a much stronger team then last season, once the new assets get settled in better,I'm sure KT will roll once more.

KT is still capable of winning and I'm sure they will make it to the playoffs.Its easy to trash a team that is not doing well, its really hard to support them through thick and thin but T1 fans won't understand,you're lucky you don't get to go through that.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
December 10 2011 17:15 GMT
#2708
On December 10 2011 22:42 catabowl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 11:23 Seraphic wrote:
You KT fans need to relax. 3 games in and you guys are destroying your coach, whom have won with the same line-up twice in a row for Grand Finals.

His choice and plan was right. I would have done so if I was in his shoes. Both games before this, KT had issues closing other teams out because Stats and Flash was sent so early. So he saved Flash and hope KT can take it to 5th, which they SHOULD have done. It's the players whom didn't come through. If BeSt have lost to CH, would most likely have been FlaSh vs Fantasy. It didn't happen. You need 3 wins regardless, it won't matter if you sent Flash early or not if your team cannot win the 3rd one.

KT will be fine once there players heat up. It's what happened last season, so expect it.


The only reason KT made the playoffs last year was b/c of 2 rounds of Winner League where they went like 17-1. Rest of the time, ACE had a better record. KT is not making the playoffs in this format. End of story.


it's a little early in the season to be making definitive statements like this
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2011 18:03 GMT
#2709
4 PvZs. Oh well.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
December 10 2011 18:08 GMT
#2710
Is there a rule that says if you're at risk of losing a match in a certain game (e.g., you're 0-2), you have to play a race that you haven't played yet?

There obviously isn't a rule that says you have to play all three races in the first 3 games, which is what I thought the rule was.

Put more clearly: what rules govern race selection in the current season?


+ Show Spoiler [reason this is in this thread] +
Why didn't KT have to play a Terran player in game 4? It was at risk of losing the game and hadn't played all three races yet.
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
December 10 2011 18:09 GMT
#2711
On December 11 2011 03:08 rplant wrote:
Is there a rule that says if you're at risk of losing a match in a certain game (e.g., you're 0-2), you have to play a race that you haven't played yet?

There obviously isn't a rule that says you have to play all three races in the first 3 games, which is what I thought the rule was.

Put more clearly: what rules govern race selection in the current season?


+ Show Spoiler [reason this is in this thread] +
Why didn't KT have to play a Terran player in game 4? It was at risk of losing the game and hadn't played all three races yet.

There are no longer any rules like this.
RBorin
Profile Joined March 2011
United States40 Posts
December 10 2011 18:10 GMT
#2712

Call me old but man is it ever surreal to watch a bunch of fanboys rage that their coach sent a bunch of Zergs against a bunch of Tosses.

Revolutionist indeed.
Elo is a system named after its creator, Arpad Elo. It is not an acronym. You don't capitalize it.
rplant
Profile Joined May 2003
United States1178 Posts
December 10 2011 18:17 GMT
#2713
On December 11 2011 03:09 gngfn wrote:
There are no longer any rules like this.


Do you know how lineup selection works? I think it's:

1.) OGN sends map order to teams
2.) Teams tell OGN who will play before match day
3.) Teams don't learn about each other's lineup choices until start of each game in the match
4.) No lineup changes are allowed
Believing in God is like believing in a teapot orbiting Mars (Edit: wow I was a douche in 2003)
shadymmj
Profile Joined June 2010
1906 Posts
December 10 2011 18:31 GMT
#2714
On December 10 2011 12:43 RinesOnRx wrote:
I dont know why people are bashing Coach Lee...
He produced a great entry managing to pair 3 zergs against 3 toss, although one of em was Bisu's imba PvZ. I think its CH and Hoejja who really let down KT this game.


lee just isn't very good at sending out people

that KT won last finals was purely due to luck and flash...skt got the ideal matchups as usual
can't rely on KT zerg line at all - and basically giving bisu a free win. yes, the zergs sucked, but that was to be expected. why play them, especially CH?
There is no such thing is "e-sports". There is Brood War, and then there is crap for nerds.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
December 10 2011 19:02 GMT
#2715
On December 10 2011 23:22 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 09:55 Bisu-Fan wrote:
Where's Fantasy??? He hasn't played at all this season right???

Yes, I'm actually disappointed with this.


Don't worry guys, we'll get to see him very soon. ^-^
HardMacro
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada361 Posts
December 10 2011 19:23 GMT
#2716
Is it ironic when at at time in the GSL where the RO 8 breakdown is 7 T / 1 Z and people cry about all the TvTs, that we get so few Terrans playing (none for the 2nd day in a row) here in BW?

What does this mean?!!!
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ saving this here because I use it, don't know how to make it, and don't know it's name
fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
December 10 2011 19:35 GMT
#2717
Can't believe Flash didn't even get to play :/
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 10 2011 19:40 GMT
#2718
All KT needs to do is to sneak into the finals, so I don't see the problem here.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
Jindo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1305 Posts
December 10 2011 20:02 GMT
#2719
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]

Deja vu.
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
December 11 2011 19:52 GMT
#2720
Lol? What a risk.
Prev 1 134 135 136 137 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 10m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 81
StarCraft: Brood War
Flash 986
Tasteless 259
Leta 209
yabsab 75
Nal_rA 58
ZergMaN 57
Soma 43
Killer 30
scan(afreeca) 30
sSak 28
[ Show more ]
910 28
ToSsGirL 22
Bale 11
Dewaltoss 10
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm164
XaKoH 15
League of Legends
JimRising 559
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K763
Other Games
summit1g3813
C9.Mang0555
WinterStarcraft357
Happy184
Hui .91
Trikslyr25
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL5513
Other Games
gamesdonequick705
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 55
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Scarra3281
• Lourlo1132
• Stunt460
Upcoming Events
PiG Sty Festival
1h 10m
Clem vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Escore
2h 10m
Epic.LAN
4h 10m
Replay Cast
16h 10m
PiG Sty Festival
1d 1h
herO vs NightMare
Reynor vs Cure
CranKy Ducklings
1d 2h
Epic.LAN
1d 4h
Replay Cast
1d 16h
PiG Sty Festival
2 days
Serral vs YoungYakov
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-18
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: King of Kings
WardiTV Winter 2026
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025

Upcoming

[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 1st Round Qualifier
Acropolis #4 - TS5
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026: China & Korea Invitational
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round
[S:21] ASL SEASON OPEN 2nd Round Qualifier
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.