EPT[R&S] SK planet StarCraft Proleague 11-12 Season 1 - Page 8
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
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Simplistik
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On December 25 2011 23:38 George_the_man wrote: its pretty hard for me couse i dont speak korean  found only that one on fomos but its not uploadedhttp://www.fomos.kr/extra/content.php?mode=ranking But i think the ones showed on OGN right after matches must be right http://da.twitch.tv/lokimw/b/303560290 - 1:45:45 I actually found the 'official rankings' on the KeESPA website (bottom right corner). You were right, so I changed the table. That makes it look rather bad for the poor Team 8. Come on  Sea, hang in there! | ||
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
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sheaRZerg
United States613 Posts
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Thorin
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M2
Bulgaria4132 Posts
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Simplistik
2094 Posts
On December 27 2011 18:13 M2 wrote: Will there be something like playoffs at the end of the terms? Because its not writen as part of the format Yes, there will be playoffs: -8 teams will participate. In this post season, 4 top teams will go into playoffs with challenge style (previously used format I guess). Semi-PO and PO will be Best out of 3, while Finals will be only one match. I'm not sure what 'challenge style' is exactly. At a guess I'd say: Semi-PO: rank 4 vs rank 3; PO: winner vs rank 2; final: winner vs rank 1. Pretty much like Winners League finals last season. | ||
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bearbuddy
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So far, there's 102 games played. Of them, 42 are mirrors, making roughly 41% of games mirrors. In contrast, the 2010-2011 Season had 445 mirror games out of 1118 games total, which is about 40%. Go back another year to the 2009-2010 Season, there were 496 out of 1159 mirror games, which is about 42%. Go back one more year and we get 43.5%. So I don't know what all the complaints are about. | ||
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Ryo
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
COME ON TEAM WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT 2nd LAST PLACE???? 8pm kst i assume | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On December 29 2011 20:06 jjhchsc2 wrote: Wow COME ON TEAM WHAT ARE YOU DOING AT 2nd LAST PLACE???? 8pm kst i assume Yes, 8pm KST. | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On December 29 2011 19:34 Ryo wrote: I can't remember whether someone else has reported this already or not but OGN and Kespa are moving the weekday matches to 8pm from Round 2 onwards. WTF why?!?!?!!!! T____T when I'm fucking in Korea, they make the matches at the exact time I have class. Then as soon as I come home, they change it from a decent viewing time (11pm PST) to one where I have no clue when I should sleep to be able to watch it (3am PST) What was wrong with 4pm... There were plenty of people showing up to weekday games... The last one I attended, SKT vs ACE was totally packed. I don't get it ;; | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On December 30 2011 01:24 Kiett wrote: WTF why?!?!?!!!! T____T when I'm fucking in Korea, they make the matches at the exact time I have class. Then as soon as I come home, they change it from a decent viewing time (11pm PST) to one where I have no clue when I should sleep to be able to watch it (3am PST) What was wrong with 4pm... There were plenty of people showing up to weekday games... The last one I attended, SKT vs ACE was totally packed. I don't get it ;; DES published an article on why OGN made the change but I can't be bothered to read it. I'm just so tired of OGN and Kespa taking fans (and the players) for granted after they get a great initial response from them. | ||
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Gara
Canada435 Posts
On December 29 2011 19:07 bearbuddy wrote: Seems like there's a believe that there's a floodgate of mirror this year. Here are some numbers: So far, there's 102 games played. Of them, 42 are mirrors, making roughly 41% of games mirrors. In contrast, the 2010-2011 Season had 445 mirror games out of 1118 games total, which is about 40%. Go back another year to the 2009-2010 Season, there were 496 out of 1159 mirror games, which is about 42%. Go back one more year and we get 43.5%. So I don't know what all the complaints are about. I don't think that there is a flood of mirrors, but there is definitely a bit of racial imbalance thus far. Protosses in general are crushing Terrans hard currently, at 13-8 or 61.9% win rate, whereas Zerg is just barely ahead of Protoss at 12-11 ZvP, or 52.2%. Protoss is also seeing the most play in general. A big part of this is just how weak Terran lineups have been in the post-restructuring age, with only a few S-class and top A-class Terran players. After Flash, Fantasy, BaBy, and Light, the quality of Terran players drops off precipitously, whereas Protoss and Zerg lineups seem much deeper (see: CJ Entus and Samsung KHAN).EDIT: I'm not claiming this is a big problem; there's really no such thing as a perfectly balanced proleague or starleague of any sort. This season is actually probably more balanced than previous seasons (in 2009-2010, Zerg played 662 games compared to 555 for Protoss, which is quite significant considering the large sample set.) | ||
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Simplistik
2094 Posts
On December 29 2011 19:34 Ryo wrote: I can't remember whether someone else has reported this already or not but OGN and Kespa are moving the weekday matches to 8pm from Round 2 onwards. That's a shame from my perspective. I was just getting used to watching the first one or two games during breakfast. It was fun to be pondering over the results during the day, before being able to watch the rest in the evening. Back to reading the news I guess. | ||
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Simplistik
2094 Posts
On December 30 2011 02:01 Gara wrote: I don't think that there is a flood of mirrors, but there is definitely a bit of racial imbalance thus far. Protosses in general are crushing Terrans hard currently, at 13-8 or 61.9% win rate, whereas Zerg is just barely ahead of Protoss at 12-11 ZvP, or 52.2%. Protoss is also seeing the most play in general. A big part of this is just how weak Terran lineups have been in the post-restructuring age, with only a few S-class and top A-class Terran players. After Flash, Fantasy, BaBy, and Light, the quality of Terran players drops off precipitously, whereas Protoss and Zerg lineups seem much deeper (see: CJ Entus and Samsung KHAN).Psst! Quickly, add Bogus before any STX fan notices what you've done there! | ||
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Gara
Canada435 Posts
On December 30 2011 02:05 Simplistik wrote: Psst! Quickly, add Bogus before any STX fan notices what you've done there! lol, Bogus who is 1-4 this season? He may have been one of STX's stars last season, but this season he seems to be struggling, although his quality of opponents is very high, and he did beat Bisu. I haven't watched any of his games, so I can't comment on how his actual play is. | ||
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Kieofire
United States1809 Posts
On December 30 2011 04:56 Gara wrote: lol, Bogus who is 1-4 this season? He may have been one of STX's stars last season, but this season he seems to be struggling, although his quality of opponents is very high, and he did beat Bisu. I haven't watched any of his games, so I can't comment on how his actual play is. Well you included Light who is 1-5 so far this season, so it is kind of weird to not include Bogus on your list. | ||
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
On December 30 2011 09:23 Kieofire wrote: Well you included Light who is 1-5 so far this season, so it is kind of weird to not include Bogus on your list. Bogus had a rough start this season. He also beat Bisu and had an epic game with Stats where he almost made a legendary comeback. He deserves to be in a list with top Terran any day. | ||
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Jindo
United States1305 Posts
On December 29 2011 19:34 Ryo wrote: I can't remember whether someone else has reported this already or not but OGN and Kespa are moving the weekday matches to 8pm KST from Round 2 onwards. Aww, I was just getting used to the nice 11PM PST time slot. Oh well...nocturnal mode activating. | ||
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