Lmao everyone dissing on Stats when he has winning records over Bisu Best AND Fantasy, 4th best PL record, took out protoss killer Zero (who Stats also has a big winning record over) and took down another ZvP killer Hydra to pretty much seal KT's place in the finals...

Stats obviously isn't the best player ever but I'm confident he's beating any non Z SKT player. Especially over your ace Bisu...

moopie

12605 Posts

August 15 2011 22:40 GMT

#1425

On August 16 2011 07:30 rhtjrwls0430 wrote:
sorry if this has already been mentioned but
aren't the finals now scheduled on the same day as the next set of OSL ro8 games?

The OSL games got delayed until the 26th.

DyEnasTy

United States3714 Posts

August 15 2011 23:02 GMT

#1426

Flash has plenty of time to rest. Hes gonna pwn like no other!!!

Ikonn

Netherlands1958 Posts

August 15 2011 23:29 GMT

#1427

It's crazy to see people call Stats mediocre, especially because I'm sure a lot of those people consider Best, a way less stable player, good

hacklebeast

United States5090 Posts

August 15 2011 23:38 GMT

#1428

Stats' fourth most wins in SL+PL (which I thought was weird to go with that sample. I don't understand why WL is included if MSL/OSL are not but whatever) is a lot less impressive when you consider that he had the most games of any progamer (tied with flash). Just because KT doesn't have anyone else to send out doesn't make him good.

Winechu

Singapore1186 Posts

August 16 2011 01:17 GMT

#1429

Why shouldn't WL be included? The wins in WL also count towards the team's ranking in SPL. It's still the same league, albeit with a different name and format. Why should wins in WL be discredited? If anything it makes Stats' achievements all the more impressive because WL favours raw skill which he showed he has plenty of.

hacklebeast

United States5090 Posts

August 16 2011 02:07 GMT

#1430

The point was that I understand if you want to look at only standard PL, because that is the format that will be played, and if someone is particularity good/bad at it, it is relevant. I understand if you want to include everything, because a win is a win and a progamer is a progamer, and the bigger sample size will show a clearer picture.

If you look at just normal PL, stats isn't anywhere close to the top. If you look at all games, he isn't anywhere close to the top. Even if you only look at WL He still isn't top 4. Why are we looking at the particular combination of games that makes him look the absolute best possible? Because they share the same over-arching name?

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

August 16 2011 02:24 GMT

#1431

Oh, if WL shouldn't count then Flash still has the most proleague wins record from last year. Sorry Bisu!

WL and SPL are the same league with the same importance.

Fortis

Estonia63 Posts

August 16 2011 02:24 GMT

#1432

Voice of reason:

All of these players are good. Some are better than others, especially in certain MUs. Hype doesn't have to be founded in disagreement and strife! Let's talk about what matchups we're EXCITED to see!

Flash vs. Best is probably my #1 pick despite being a Bisu fan.

Toadily

United States837 Posts

August 16 2011 02:24 GMT

#1433

lawl @ all the SKT player downplaying Stats achievements when he has a winning record vs all the top SKT players, in fact hes undefeated vs Bisu & BeSt.

Bisu-Fan

Russian Federation3339 Posts

August 16 2011 02:30 GMT

#1434

On August 16 2011 11:24 Toadily wrote:
lawl @ all the SKT player downplaying Stats achievements when he has a winning record vs all the top SKT players, in fact hes undefeated vs Bisu & BeSt.

But does that make him the 4th best player in Proleague right now like someone said? I doubt it... I must admit, Stats does do very very well and his top play is insane... but he's not at his top always and his average play is, in my humble opinion, not as good as the top SKT players... He might just step it up each time he plays an SKT player (which is really great for him) but his average play, I would say, isn't as good~

GoTuNk!

Chile4591 Posts

August 16 2011 02:48 GMT

#1435

Why nitpick on Stats when our hatred should be directed to those mediocre cheesy zergs, aka Action and Crazy-hydra.

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

August 16 2011 02:49 GMT

#1436

Lol, Action is cheesey. I've never seen a zerg who so desperately avoids early and midgame strategies as much as Action.

ffreakk

Singapore2155 Posts

August 16 2011 04:00 GMT

#1437

Hahaha.. Clearly the reason there can be so much argument about Stats is that he has his moments of brillance, but also periods of mediocrity.. The fans who remember his high will still think his good, but the others (haters?) will be more inclined to look at his recent mediocrity and think that he sucks.

I, for one, thinks that he will roll over and die vs the SKT Champions

BLinD-RawR

ALLEYCAT BLUES51065 Posts

August 16 2011 04:05 GMT

#1438

KT ROLSTER FIGHTING!!!!

GO KT GO!
GOGOGO!

HYPUUUUUU!
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BijfROwr-f8
KT=Shohoku
SKT=Ryonan

Sawamura

Malaysia7602 Posts

August 16 2011 04:13 GMT

#1439

On August 16 2011 13:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
KT ROLSTER FIGHTING!!!!

GO KT GO!
GOGOGO!

HYPUUUUUU!
+ Show Spoiler +

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BijfROwr-f8
KT=Shohoku
SKT=Ryonan

LOL SLAM DUNK who is hanamichi in kt than lol ??????????? I can't find a player who's genius like him except flash is much more solid who is much more similiar rukawa probably best candidate for hanamichi is Action lol ?? . However i think we shohoku high school won ryonan in the finals right ;D