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[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 403

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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
August 20 2011 15:53 GMT
#8041
On August 21 2011 00:49 villageidiot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:32 mmdmmd wrote:
Kespa announce the Free Agent list for 2011

Flash Best Pure Lomo Cutangel


@@ WHY FLASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



Free Agent is not exactly free. Jaedong was free agent quite recently ( he was also in great form), but he couldn't leave Oz anyway. And the higher the salary the harder to move to other teams, because they still need to pay for transfer.


But if someone bought flash T_T i will be sad panda .
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 15:55:14
August 20 2011 15:54 GMT
#8042
On August 21 2011 00:21 Toadily wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:00 mnesthes wrote:
On August 20 2011 20:26 disciple wrote:
Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.
If it was that simple then they should have just let Bisu practice like mad against Flash because 100% that KT will send Flash in the ace match? Then in the pre-ace games pair him up against a Zerg because he's autowin vZ anyway


Like someone else mentioned in the thread earlier, Bisu's macro, mechanics, and understanding of the PvT matchup is still behind BeSt, I would've loved to see Flash rape Bisu again to quiet all the SKT fans but BeSt was really their best hope


You may be correct (although given Bisu's phenomenal vT record lately, you'll forgive me if I don't quite take your side), and BeSt had the better chance against Flash, but I still don't think it was the right call. A Bisu vs. Flash ace match was what everyone wanted to see. I know I was definitely looking forward to it. Even if he lost, just to be able to witness it, that would have been enough. And I think it would have been better for BeSt too, if Bisu had taken that bullet. To shoulder the burden of TWO losses in the finals instead of just one... he looked so completely crushed ;~; At least for Bisu, he would have been 1 - 1 that night, which would just (rightfully) shift the blame towards the T1 zergs for even allowing it to reach an ace match anyway. I guess it's true that most of what I'm saying is only in retrospect, after knowing the results, but... I dont even think BeSt himself was confident at the time. If SKT is going to lose anyway, might as well give everyone the match they were waiting for, and save BeSt from the flaming he'd receive for losing both games to Flash.
Writer:o
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 20 2011 15:55 GMT
#8043
On August 21 2011 00:53 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:49 villageidiot wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:32 mmdmmd wrote:
Kespa announce the Free Agent list for 2011

Flash Best Pure Lomo Cutangel


@@ WHY FLASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



Free Agent is not exactly free. Jaedong was free agent quite recently ( he was also in great form), but he couldn't leave Oz anyway. And the higher the salary the harder to move to other teams, because they still need to pay for transfer.


But if someone bought flash T_T i will be sad panda .

No team without a "KT" in their name can afford Flash. You have absolutely nothing to worry about.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
villageidiot
Profile Joined May 2009
353 Posts
August 20 2011 15:58 GMT
#8044
On August 21 2011 00:53 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:49 villageidiot wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:32 mmdmmd wrote:
Kespa announce the Free Agent list for 2011

Flash Best Pure Lomo Cutangel


@@ WHY FLASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



Free Agent is not exactly free. Jaedong was free agent quite recently ( he was also in great form), but he couldn't leave Oz anyway. And the higher the salary the harder to move to other teams, because they still need to pay for transfer.


But if someone bought flash T_T i will be sad panda .



SKT couldn't afford Jaedong and flash is much more pricy. Other teams are out of question, exept ACE.
Good night sour prince. You won't be missed!
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
August 20 2011 15:59 GMT
#8045
On August 21 2011 00:58 villageidiot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 00:53 Sawamura wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:49 villageidiot wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:34 Sawamura wrote:
On August 21 2011 00:32 mmdmmd wrote:
Kespa announce the Free Agent list for 2011

Flash Best Pure Lomo Cutangel


@@ WHY FLASHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH



Free Agent is not exactly free. Jaedong was free agent quite recently ( he was also in great form), but he couldn't leave Oz anyway. And the higher the salary the harder to move to other teams, because they still need to pay for transfer.


But if someone bought flash T_T i will be sad panda .



SKT couldn't afford Jaedong and flash is much more pricy. Other teams are out of question, exept ACE.

It's not that SKT couldn't afford JD, but they had a gentleman's agreement not to buy him or any other TBLS member.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 16:10:18
August 20 2011 16:03 GMT
#8046
Flash isn't moving anywhere. He's KT for life

Lomo and Pure unfortunately won't influence much. Frozean wanted to retire iirc.

BeSt... I hope gets a good offer. <3 BeSt.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Klaca
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
318 Posts
August 20 2011 16:07 GMT
#8047
Look, KT already gave SKT a slight manner-advantage by wielding the low zerg instead of Barracks. On beltway it wouldve been a much better bet, Barracks has sick TvT
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
August 20 2011 16:14 GMT
#8048
That's a meager free agent list. Pure, Lomo & Cuteangel are all but retired at this point. Best is welcome to join CJ. I'm sure he and Horang2 can gateway CJ to the gold next year.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 20 2011 16:17 GMT
#8049
CJ doesn't really need BeSt tbh, they have strong tosses. WeMade and Stars would need a solid toss the most, Oz could as well.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1342 Posts
August 20 2011 16:19 GMT
#8050
On August 21 2011 00:00 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:00 mnesthes wrote:
On August 20 2011 20:26 disciple wrote:
Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.
If it was that simple then they should have just let Bisu practice like mad against Flash because 100% that KT will send Flash in the ace match? Then in the pre-ace games pair him up against a Zerg because he's autowin vZ anyway

I could imagine how many pages this thread could actually get if SKT won, a lot more people would come out of the woodwork. anw, now I'm waiting for an epic writeup about the grand final (done by non SKT-biased writers ofc)


sadly the last is impossible, cause you kt fans are generally good for nothing and do no work other than spam flash stuff. to do you justice you have couple of awesome translators but thats all. cj/skt fans keep this site moving for half a decade

MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1681 Posts
August 20 2011 16:27 GMT
#8051
Epic Gamessss !
Too bad for SKT
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
almond
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
115 Posts
August 20 2011 16:29 GMT
#8052
Wow the poll is even. Always thought SKT had a lot more fans.
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
August 20 2011 16:34 GMT
#8053
On August 21 2011 01:29 almond wrote:
Wow the poll is even. Always thought SKT had a lot more fans.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=250495&currentpage=398#7946
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 16:35:37
August 20 2011 16:34 GMT
#8054
By the way, even when not including the extra pages the postponement added, this thread still outdoes last year's SPL final thread.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 20 2011 16:47 GMT
#8055
On August 21 2011 00:00 disciple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:00 mnesthes wrote:
On August 20 2011 20:26 disciple wrote:
Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.
If it was that simple then they should have just let Bisu practice like mad against Flash because 100% that KT will send Flash in the ace match? Then in the pre-ace games pair him up against a Zerg because he's autowin vZ anyway

I could imagine how many pages this thread could actually get if SKT won, a lot more people would come out of the woodwork. anw, now I'm waiting for an epic writeup about the grand final (done by non SKT-biased writers ofc)


sadly the last is impossible, cause you kt fans are generally good for nothing and do no work other than spam flash stuff. to do you justice you have couple of awesome translators but thats all. cj/skt fans keep this site moving for half a decade

you're not doing MBC fans justice now, are you, disciple?

other than spam flash stuff

considering that most SKT1 fans spam Bisu at every opportunity (click on a image in this very OP for a smile and a good example) seems just a tad hypocritical to me, dont you think?

- And please refrain from calling "generally good for nothing", maybe I am easy to insult when people insult other KT fans or the team but if your tab had had a report button i'd clicked it.
In the woods, there lurks..
Slaynte
Profile Joined April 2010
United States155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 17:05:06
August 20 2011 17:03 GMT
#8056
i'm glad it was best who lost. if bisu went out there and lost, we'd hear pathetic trolls saying things along the lines of "mmm bisu fanboy tears" for weeks.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 20 2011 17:04 GMT
#8057
On August 20 2011 22:00 mnesthes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 20:26 disciple wrote:
Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.
If it was that simple then they should have just let Bisu practice like mad against Flash because 100% that KT will send Flash in the ace match? Then in the pre-ace games pair him up against a Zerg because he's autowin vZ anyway

I could imagine how many pages this thread could actually get if SKT won, a lot more people would come out of the woodwork. anw, now I'm waiting for an epic writeup about the grand final (done by non SKT-biased writers ofc)


Dunno, we didn't get one last year. Don't get your hopes up.
Remember Violet.
King[Neikos]
Profile Joined September 2010
Costa Rica506 Posts
August 20 2011 17:22 GMT
#8058
oh best why u so losing to flash twice
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
August 20 2011 17:24 GMT
#8059
On August 21 2011 02:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 22:00 mnesthes wrote:
On August 20 2011 20:26 disciple wrote:
Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.

I could imagine how many pages this thread could actually get if SKT won, a lot more people would come out of the woodwork. anw, now I'm waiting for an epic writeup about the grand final (done by non SKT-biased writers ofc)


Dunno, we didn't get one last year. Don't get your hopes up.

You should write one
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 20 2011 17:25 GMT
#8060
A: I suck B: I have no competence in making graphics. :D
Remember Violet.
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