Can someone provide a link to the free agency list? I can't read korean so I don't know how to navigate through the kespa website. And I dont see an OP on it on TL

moopie

12605 Posts

August 20 2011 17:45 GMT

#8063

On August 21 2011 02:41 Slaynte wrote:
Can someone provide a link to the free agency list? I can't read korean so I don't know how to navigate through the kespa website. And I dont see an OP on it on TL

Frozean, BeSt, Pure, Lomo and Flash.

http://www.e-sports.or.kr/news/notice_view.kea?m_code=news_20&PageNo=1&seq=1571&where=&query=

peacaroo

United States2 Posts

August 20 2011 19:01 GMT

#8064

I know fans wanted to see Bisu in the ace match but honestly BeSt probably had the best chance of winning. The SKT coaches clearly know what they're doing as evidenced by the almost entirely favorable matchups and they thought that BeSt was the better choice. A real SKT fan would know that winning is more important than merely pleasing fans by sending out the poster boy. For anyone who thinks that Bisu would have done better if he had practiced for ace instead of BeSt, realize that beating scrubs in regular season matches doesn't automatically make one good at taking down the best player in the world with preparation. If Bisu could fare well against a Flash with preparation then he probably wouldn't be dropping out of individual leagues like a fly either. On the other hand, BeSt's macro style gives him an edge over Flash's defensive style, and combined with his recent ability to beat Flash, especially on Circuit Breaker, make him the best choice for ace. The SKT coaches realized this and the fans should too.

It's funny that before the matches SKT fans were gloating that BeSt could beat Flash but now won't stop whining about not sending out Bisu.

CeriseCherries

6170 Posts

August 20 2011 19:15 GMT

#8065

Hoooooooly ballls... wow. I did not expect this

_Quasar_

Russian Federation4405 Posts

August 20 2011 19:20 GMT

#8066

I did think that Bisu is better choice than BeSt because of the overall greater consistency of Bisu, and the fact that he has the experience of winning when the bets are high. BeSt has shown impressive victories vs. Flash this season, but he had failed so many times this season against Terran players in general. Bisu would be in a more "clutch" form imho. He was the one who would stand the best chance imo.

Cheeseburgered

United States716 Posts

August 20 2011 19:29 GMT

#8067

On August 21 2011 00:00 disciple wrote:

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sadly the last is impossible, cause you kt fans are generally good for nothing and do no work other than spam flash stuff. to do you justice you have couple of awesome translators but thats all. cj/skt fans keep this site moving for half a decade

good for nothing? still a little sour that your favorite team lost?

Hazard

Norway594 Posts

August 20 2011 19:39 GMT

#8068

BeSt was the best choice if he had his form but loosing streak makes him like s2 this season.

Mithriel

Netherlands2969 Posts

August 20 2011 19:57 GMT

#8069

On August 21 2011 00:46 villageidiot wrote:

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So there is money in OSL and MSL also. Proleague is a bit different.

hehe ok

i'm a bw noobie, only recently started watching and enjoying it

Thanks for the clarification

CCa1ss1e

Canada3231 Posts

August 20 2011 20:10 GMT

#8070

love flash's build in that ace match, you can macro all you want, but if you can't deal with the 3-2, nearly maxed Terran mechball, then, well it's game over anyway.

great games, watched them live.

SimonB

United States1088 Posts

August 20 2011 20:17 GMT

#8071

I don't buy all this stuff about BeSt being the best bet, or even any kind of serious bet against Flash. I think he is an overrated and one-dimensional player. The H2H records are so insignificant to conclude anything. I don't even buy the idea that BeSt's "style" is good against Flash. People bring up that he beat Flash in macro games, but that's only half the story. He beat Flash in games where he was allowed to cheat on expos and get 6-7 bases and 30 gateways while Flash sat on 3.

Guys sometimes get wins against Flash as they do against Bisu and Jaedong and every other player that has ever played. You can't use these few games to justify anything. BeSt is so invariable in his play that he played exactly as he has always played even though he had a month to practice against one player on one map.

You're going to play that player instead of the best protoss ever, who's had a record breaking PL season, and is currently in great form? Hell, if I were SKT, I would much rather have Fantasy in there if not Bisu.

The whole BeSt vs. Flash "rivalry" has always been a crock, and BeSt hasn't been an A-class player for almost three years (and even then he was overrated as an S-class).

Edit: I also want to point out he's out of the last OSL in the prelims courtesy of (T)

Major, and he was kicked out of the last two MBC survivors partly because of (T)

Classic. This is your best bet for the ace match?

mmdmmd

722 Posts

August 20 2011 20:48 GMT

#8072

I've noticed a couple of pages back where people were complaining Bisu not asking to be sent out. Can someone please tell me how did these people came to this conclusion? Did they manage to catch something in the VOD that I've missed?

Harem

United States11393 Posts

August 20 2011 20:57 GMT

#8073

On August 20 2011 21:14 Emon_ wrote:
Also, L-O-L @ s2 for not being able to spot the different timings between a 12-hatch and a pool first build!!! Fail of the year.

Huh? Overgas can't put any kind of ling pressure on at all early unless you overgas9pool and upgrade lair and speed immediately before starting ling production. (see great vs jd on fortress as an example) Even if Hoejja had hatched at nat and S2 saw it, there was nothing S2 could do about it as all he can do is be passive and hold his choke at beginning since he is skipping speed for earlier second hat and focusing all gas and larva to be used on muta/scourge.

Phradamon

Romania191 Posts

August 20 2011 21:18 GMT

#8074

Wow GG KT Flash! Two titles in a row and coming from play-offs! I bow before your might!

Jindo

United States1305 Posts

August 21 2011 00:28 GMT

#8075

not amused...

R0YAL

United States1768 Posts

August 21 2011 03:17 GMT

#8076

Holy cow! The voting is tied at 730 o_o'

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

August 21 2011 03:38 GMT

#8077

A lot of those are after the thing was already over, as just a few hours earlier SKT was up about 10 votes. Guessing some people just voted to make it even after the fact.

FlaShFTW

United States10391 Posts

August 21 2011 04:50 GMT

#8078

On August 21 2011 02:45 moopie wrote:

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Frozean, BeSt, Pure, Lomo and Flash.

http://www.e-sports.or.kr/news/notice_view.kea?m_code=news_20&PageNo=1&seq=1571&where=&query=

Y is flash up there??? Seriously... If he leaves kt, bw as we know it will never be the same... Best lmao, id expect skt to get rid of him hehe. Jk lulz. Just cant handle kt

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

August 21 2011 04:58 GMT

#8079

He's a free agent because his contract expired. KT will obviously sign him to a very lucrative deal. Every player who doesn't get cut eventually becomes a free agent.

lolsixtynine

United States600 Posts

August 21 2011 05:21 GMT

#8080

Hey, I'm normally a SC2 follower that's just getting into watching Brood War. Are there VODs of these matches uploaded, and if so are there English casters/who are they?