• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:00
CEST 22:00
KST 05:00
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun4[ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists19[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers25Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid25
StarCraft 2
General
Code S Season 1 - RO12 Group A: Rogue, Percival, Solar, Zoun Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Maestros of the Game 2 announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 523 Firewall Mutation # 522 Flip My Base Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss
Brood War
General
JaeDong's ASL S21 Ro16 Post-Review BW General Discussion [ASL21] Ro8 Preview Pt1: Inheritors ASL21 General Discussion Leta's ASL S21 Ro.16 review
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro8 Day 1 [ASL21] Ro8 Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Ro16 Group D
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Total Annihilation Server - TAForever
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 3D technology/software discussion Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 3293 users

[SPL] Grand Finals: SK Telecom T1 vs KT Rolster - Page 401

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 399 400 401 402 403 409 Next
mofuli
Profile Joined October 2010
164 Posts
August 20 2011 11:09 GMT
#8001
unbelievable, KT still win despite sending 4 zergs. No any zerg win a single match (except z v z) in Grand finals since 2007
sharky246
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 11:10:30
August 20 2011 11:09 GMT
#8002
lolwtf is this? best vs flash in ace match?! I hope the OP misspelt bisu and wrote best instead. Although i suppose it was inevitable that KT was gonna spank their asses completely, so it wouldnt matter.
On January 03 2011 13:14 IdrA wrote: being high on the ladder doesnt get you any closer to your goal. Avoiding practice to protect your rating is absurd. If you want to be good go play 40 games a day and stop thinking about becoming a pro.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 11:11:10
August 20 2011 11:10 GMT
#8003
400 Pages. I love you guys. Btw, why does Game 2 have such a low rating. I found Bisu's perfect defense exciting, and then there was also a major fuckup by him.

Edit: 401, fml
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
August 20 2011 11:15 GMT
#8004
On August 20 2011 20:09 frodoguy wrote:
lolwtf is this? best vs flash in ace match?! I hope the OP misspelt bisu and wrote best instead. Although i suppose it was inevitable that KT was gonna spank their asses completely, so it wouldnt matter.


Your eyes are not deceiving you

SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1715 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 11:21:52
August 20 2011 11:20 GMT
#8005
On August 19 2011 22:15 Noel Vermillion wrote:
Thank you for the streams, shout outs to the people that watched it from the start. especially the east coast BW fans for staying up from 5am-9am! Oh snap I got work in 2hrs X_X

woot!!
i know i've said this several times over but i not only woke up at 5am but i had to take a day off work for this!! shoutout to anyone else who did the same!
.... and all just to watch skt fail!
good thing bisu won

long live BW!

edit: i blame coach park for sending best for ace and our skt failzergs for living up to their name
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 11:26:12
August 20 2011 11:24 GMT
#8006
On August 20 2011 20:09 frodoguy wrote:
lolwtf is this? best vs flash in ace match?! I hope the OP misspelt bisu and wrote best instead. Although i suppose it was inevitable that KT was gonna spank their asses completely, so it wouldnt matter.

Don't be silly, there's no possible way for Flash to beat Bisu. Bisu is undefeated against KT today, because they are incapable of beating him. I suppose they fluked over SKT, but not over Bisu .
I suppose I misspelled the picture too?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
August 20 2011 11:26 GMT
#8007
On August 20 2011 19:49 moopie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 18:25 Fenrax wrote:
The Ace match choice was not only cowardish and robbed the fans of a super Ace match of the ages but it was also wrong. There must have been going something seriously wrong in the SKT house to come up with that decision.

- Bisu has the better mechanics. Best is rusty, Bisu is on top of his game.
- Bisu is on a fucking roll this season. Even his PvT was on top. 80 fucking per cent. On the other side Best was slumping.
- Bisu has the experience to perform on the biggest stages and proven that he can withstand the pressure. Best not.
- Best's streak against Flash is not really relevant for this decision. It is not a Best/Bisu vs. Flash, it is Best/Bisu vs. T or Flash vs. P. This is not like rock, paper, scissors where one player's style is good against A but bad against B. Best's 6-5 against Flash was nothing but a statistical deviation based on some overperformances by Best and some mistakes by Flash. You can't expect that to randomly repeat.

I think its funny that some fans think that they know better than the actual players and coaches do without knowing their practice methods, the month of prep they went through, strategies they considered, etc. BeSt, Bisu, Park and Oov know what they're capable of a lot better than we do; hell they know what KT's players are capable of better than we do. You judge their form without having seen them play in a month (20 days for BeSt) while the coaches base their decisions on daily practice results. BeSt and Bisu know what their strong points are, and the fact that the team decided BeSt should play vs Flash means they calculated that they would have the best chances of winning that way (even if certain fanboys disagree).

Your statements of calling the team's decisions cowardly and saying there had to be something wrong with them to make that choice is a huge case of monday morning quarterbacking. SKT got favorable matchups in every game because their coaches spent countless hours calculating how best to approach these games. They know what they are doing, and they (the players and coaches) deserve better for their efforts than to be belittled by fans like you.


I agree but there's a big difference between performance in practice and how you play in the last game for the season. I dont know how much truth there is in Bisu's "I constantly lose to zerg in practice" but on camera he is fucking unbeatable. What makes this more sad indeed is that sending BeSt as ace was a part of long decision process and preparation and wasn't just a panic on spot move. In the most important game of the season Coach Park decided he can be smart and clever enough to "snipe" the opposing teams ace and come out as a giant mastermind or smth. To give him credit Park outplayed badly KTs Coach in the line up games, everyone on SKT got their best MU, its our zerg to blame for the loss. But in the do-or-die situation you don't send a mediocre player with no recent results to back for some confidence under this extreme pleasure. Park put his money on some stats and gimmicks, I'm not even saying Bisu would've won or smth like that...

But when you have on your team the only player thats arguably on the level of flash for the past half year, you dont bench him for the game he deserves so much to play, you just fucking send him.

Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
Legend`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada381 Posts
August 20 2011 11:30 GMT
#8008
How much is the prize money for winning the event? Been searching everywhere and can't find it lol
NME.352 GM NA Protoss
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 20 2011 11:33 GMT
#8009
On August 20 2011 20:30 Legend` wrote:
How much is the prize money for winning the event? Been searching everywhere and can't find it lol

Irrelevant. How much is the prize for the World Cup?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50898 Posts
August 20 2011 11:44 GMT
#8010
On August 20 2011 20:30 Legend` wrote:
How much is the prize money for winning the event? Been searching everywhere and can't find it lol


Who knows/cares..
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 20 2011 11:53 GMT
#8011
I can't believe I missed this...
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
August 20 2011 11:54 GMT
#8012
On August 19 2011 22:15 Noel Vermillion wrote:
Thank you for the streams, shout outs to the people that watched it from the start. especially the east coast BW fans for staying up from 5am-9am! Oh snap I got work in 2hrs X_X


It was so worth getting up early for this. Especially when watching with fellow BW fans!!
ZoW cried on his way home, though
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
August 20 2011 11:58 GMT
#8013
Awesome finals :D Action and Crazy-Hydra and the SKT zergs failed like expected while Hoejja, Stats and Flash pulled through with the power of Violet. What the SKT coach was smoking when he decided to send out Best for the ace match I don't know but he sure gifted away the match right then and there.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 12:18:28
August 20 2011 12:14 GMT
#8014
AAAAAAAAAAH 401 pages! ^^ You guys are nuts!!! ^^

I feel bad for Doh Jae Wook. In the first game he should've anticipated the push and defended better. He cleared it up eventually, but he couldn't come back after that loss. In the last game he was visibly shook. He lost the game as soon as he put down the first Gateway. Flash knew that Best was hesitant and started expanding like he was a Zerg!!

Also, L-O-L @ s2 for not being able to spot the different timings between a 12-hatch and a pool first build!!! Fail of the year.

On August 20 2011 20:26 disciple wrote:
Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.

Sending Bisu as the ace would've been a sick ending.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
imperator-xy
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany1377 Posts
August 20 2011 12:25 GMT
#8015
Bisu would have won FOR SURE
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 12:35:41
August 20 2011 12:32 GMT
#8016
On August 20 2011 20:30 Legend` wrote:
How much is the prize money for winning the event? Been searching everywhere and can't find it lol

It was mentioned earlier in the thread. This season's prize money is unknown. Last season it was 80mWon for the winner.

Edit:
I don't know why you're so fixated on the prize money.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 20 2011 12:41 GMT
#8017
On August 20 2011 20:24 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 20:09 frodoguy wrote:
lolwtf is this? best vs flash in ace match?! I hope the OP misspelt bisu and wrote best instead. Although i suppose it was inevitable that KT was gonna spank their asses completely, so it wouldnt matter.

Don't be silly, there's no possible way for Flash to beat Bisu. Bisu is undefeated against KT today, because they are incapable of beating him. I suppose they fluked over SKT, but not over Bisu .
I suppose I misspelled the picture too?

Guys, Lightwhip is loosing it.

He is in the denial phase..
In the woods, there lurks..
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
August 20 2011 13:00 GMT
#8018
On August 20 2011 20:26 disciple wrote:
Its the last game of year long season. Its your ace vs our ace.
If it was that simple then they should have just let Bisu practice like mad against Flash because 100% that KT will send Flash in the ace match? Then in the pre-ace games pair him up against a Zerg because he's autowin vZ anyway

I could imagine how many pages this thread could actually get if SKT won, a lot more people would come out of the woodwork. anw, now I'm waiting for an epic writeup about the grand final (done by non SKT-biased writers ofc)
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 13:05:21
August 20 2011 13:05 GMT
#8019
HOLY SHIT! Flash doesn't disappoint.

Watching the VODs now.
Brood War loyalist
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
August 20 2011 13:28 GMT
#8020
On August 20 2011 20:30 Legend` wrote:
How much is the prize money for winning the event? Been searching everywhere and can't find it lol


No one cares in BW ^.^

It's all about tears and glory!
Prev 1 399 400 401 402 403 409 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 445
IndyStarCraft 126
UpATreeSC 125
JuggernautJason52
MindelVK 35
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15404
910 27
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
NaDa 11
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2401
fl0m2188
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu356
Other Games
Grubby6603
summit1g3220
B2W.Neo482
C9.Mang0199
elazer158
Pyrionflax132
ArmadaUGS116
QueenE102
Trikslyr45
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV208
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream178
StarCraft 2
angryscii 25
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Reevou 1
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota2882
League of Legends
• TFBlade762
Other Games
• imaqtpie1956
• Shiphtur257
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Cup
4h
GSL
13h 30m
Rogue vs Percival
Zoun vs Solar
Replay Cast
1d 4h
GSL
1d 13h
Cure vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs Bunny
KCM Race Survival
1d 14h
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Escore
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
IPSL
3 days
Ret vs Art_Of_Turtle
Radley vs TBD
BSL
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
BSL
4 days
IPSL
4 days
eOnzErG vs TBD
G5 vs Nesh
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Jaedong vs Light
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Snow vs Flash
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S2: W4
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
KK 2v2 League Season 1
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.