BTW, I don't get why everyone was criticizing Flash for going 2 rax before CC. He didn't have much of a choice. His marines were stuck outside the wall and getting picked off by lings. If he didn't get a 2nd rax, he would've been owned by mutas due to the low marine count. Due to the 8 rax, his economy was already a little weaker than usual. If he did CC after 1 rax, his 2nd and 3rd rax would a lot later than usual.

red4ce

United States7313 Posts

June 22 2011 13:13 GMT

#1203

On June 22 2011 21:57 Demand2k wrote:

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I don't understand your logic to be honest. I believe Jaedong has a firm edge on Flash, and it seems to have only grown stronger the past months. I'm unsure if it should be attributted to Jaedong or Flash though. I'm leaning towards the latter myself. Jaedong most likely has more risky opponents to meet these days, like Bisu, Zero and Hydra. Flash tends to be very scary in BoX though!

Make no mistake I agree Jaedong has the edge over Flash right now, but that's sort of my point. Not since 2008 has FvJ been so heavily tilted towards Jaedong's favor. Yet it's Flash who's the reigning MSL champ, a golden badge winner and tied with Nada in Starleague titles. It's KT and not Oz that's going to be in the playoffs despite JD's proleague victories over Flash. Now here we are once again for the 4th straight time Jaedong owned Flash, but it didn't really count for anything besides maybe a confidence boost.

WaterTower

France138 Posts

June 22 2011 13:16 GMT

#1204

First, congrats to the TC for making a perfect prediction. I actually thought we would see JD in the Final game.

I'm excited that JD recovered from the slump and that their rivalry will continue. I really cant give an advantage to either at the moment, which makes it even more exciting.

Rodiel3

France1158 Posts

June 22 2011 13:16 GMT

#1205

Yeye !!! Flash and JD Advance, gonna watch vod soon

Gescom

Canada3505 Posts

June 22 2011 13:19 GMT

#1206

Oh glorious day!

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virpi

Germany3599 Posts

June 22 2011 13:23 GMT

#1207

it's great to see that jaedong finally has found a way to beat flash.

RoyW

Ireland270 Posts

June 22 2011 13:25 GMT

#1208

Record: 24 wins - 24 losses (50.00%)

I love FvJ

Headshot

United States1656 Posts

June 22 2011 13:56 GMT

#1209

I can't tell you how happy I am to be able to wake up to these results.

LEE JAE DONG!

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

June 22 2011 13:59 GMT

#1210

See Jaedong crush people 2-0 live.

Go off.

Come home, see that Flash is also through

Its a good day.

WaterTower

France138 Posts

June 22 2011 14:00 GMT

#1211

I hope they both make it to the finals and deliver the best FvJ ever.

However, in all honesty, both are a little past their prime. Both used to be pretty cowboyish and impossible to defeat psychologically. Now that one is the Ultimate Weapon and one is The Dong, they have become more careful and less innovative because they are afraid of losing.

However, the thing that keeps them competitive is that no new young Turk has appeared from the woodwork to take away their crowns (effort didn't even come close to convincing people he was a better player).

Holgerius

Sweden16951 Posts

June 22 2011 14:01 GMT

#1212

These rounds with Bo1s make me kind of nervous with Flash playing the way he has in PL recently. Very happy to see he made it through. Can't wait for the BoXs to start.

And yay, JD! ^__^

vectorix108

United States4633 Posts

June 22 2011 14:11 GMT

#1213

Well, nothing too surprising with the results here. GJ to flash and jaedong

K3Nyy

United States1961 Posts

June 22 2011 14:20 GMT

#1214

Flash.. ><"

Oh well, at least both him and Jaedong made it.

FvJ finals! gogo!

Eun_Star

United States322 Posts

June 22 2011 14:39 GMT

#1215

glad flash and jaedong made it! flash hating really needs to stop (in fact, just hating on a specific player in general)--it's immature, and people don't want to see it. I'm sure JD would feel the same about this as well. I missed the games, but congratulations to both

Trizz

Netherlands1318 Posts

June 22 2011 14:41 GMT

#1216

Is it just me, or is Jaedong coming back stronger after those 4 straight losses?

Womwomwom

5930 Posts

June 22 2011 14:45 GMT

#1217

Google translate shows Flash's interview seems to less about the games and more about his wrist. He seems to have trouble controlling the mouse, which might explain why he's having more trouble in the late game especially.

DarkMatter_

Canada1774 Posts

June 22 2011 14:48 GMT

#1218

On June 22 2011 21:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:

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Flash's play is predicated on his preparedness and decision making. I don't think you can say he made a single good decision that entire game. Nothing he did besides planting mines helped him get an advantage in that game.

That's because Jaedong was completely on top of Flash the whole game. It's not like Flash just had to do a few things differently and he would've magically won the game. If nothing other than planting mines helped him get an advantage, it's because Jaedong didn't let him get an advantage with anything else that he attempted. The only major criticism I can make was Flash's decision to take the expo at 10 instead of taking the expo in the direction that he was pushing (like the expo at 1'o clock), but Jaedong already had a big lead by that point.

DarkMatter_

Canada1774 Posts

June 22 2011 14:51 GMT

#1219

On June 22 2011 22:23 virpi wrote:
it's great to see that jaedong finally has found a way to beat flash.

Yeah, just play standard and beat him with your amazing mechanics and game sense rather than doing weird greedy builds.

Existential

Australia2107 Posts

June 22 2011 14:57 GMT

#1220

Good to see JD defeat Flash once again. More importantly though, good to see both of them advance!