• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 02:56
CET 08:56
KST 16:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1815Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1829 users

[MSL] Grand Final - Page 13

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 189 Next
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1767 Posts
June 06 2011 10:21 GMT
#241


Note: oGsMC first in line
asdasdasdasdasd123123123
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50601 Posts
June 06 2011 10:22 GMT
#242
On June 06 2011 18:55 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:41 mnesthes wrote:
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)
And Fantasy too, maybe.
Flash will probably practice with Crazy-Hydra and Hoejja. Don't know about Jaedong though.

Flash: zero fantasy helping zero? JUST GO BIO


LOL Jokes!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 06 2011 10:41 GMT
#243
Practice partner doesn't decide there. No matter who you practice with, you can't get the feeling of playing with Flash. But you can imagine it's Flash and imagine his micro is like Flash's. And not do things that Flash's micro punishes easily.

But Light is good at timing pushes (and at bio play, lolol) so he must be useful as a practice partner, for ZerO just not to fuck up something badly.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 06 2011 10:54 GMT
#244
Flash will practice with Jaedong I'm sure, the two are very close friends I believe.

Seeing as light has pretty much the #2 TvZ, its not like ZerO will lack good practice partners.
WriterXiao8~~
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
June 06 2011 11:27 GMT
#245
God damnit I would give my left leg for replays of Flash practising for this with Jaedong.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
O.M.G
Profile Joined June 2011
Bulgaria5 Posts
June 06 2011 11:30 GMT
#246
FLASH FTW
Go Flash 3 - 0 ZerO
OMG
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 06 2011 13:22 GMT
#247
On June 06 2011 20:27 ComusLoM wrote:
God damnit I would give my left leg for replays of Flash practising for this with Jaedong.

hhahahahahha true :DDDDD
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
June 06 2011 13:32 GMT
#248
im kinda torn on this one...
zero deserves a title and is always fun to watch...flash on the other hand is one of the best players bw ever had :/ well lets hope for an interesting final!
FTD
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 06 2011 13:39 GMT
#249
Imagine getting a replay pack with all of Flash's practise games during the last year or so. :O:O:O
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
June 06 2011 13:50 GMT
#250
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 06 2011 13:57 GMT
#251
ZerO needs to contact Leta imo for funky plays. He already has the one one of the best bio terran to practice with and he is is already godly vs mech.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 14:08:16
June 06 2011 14:07 GMT
#252
light helping zero is something great for him, lights tvz is super sexy
hope to watch those replays some day ^-^

ace hwaiting!!
RoyW
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Ireland270 Posts
June 06 2011 16:25 GMT
#253
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


Come on, when he's on his game he is close to Flash's level, but come on, Flash has an over 70% lifetime record in the match-up. 12-4 this year, 44-18 last year and 42-11 in 09. Light is just nowhere near that level.

Light has 64% lifetime, and has a 56%-62%-59% record in those same years
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
June 06 2011 16:37 GMT
#254
On June 07 2011 01:25 RoyW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


Come on, when he's on his game he is close to Flash's level, but come on, Flash has an over 70% lifetime record in the match-up. 12-4 this year, 44-18 last year and 42-11 in 09. Light is just nowhere near that level.

Light has 64% lifetime, and has a 56%-62%-59% record in those same years


??

Using TLPD on Light 2009-01-01 to 2010-01-01 I see Light going 28-17(62%) and then in 2010-01-01 to 2011-01-01 I see 37-14 (72.55%) and so far this year he's gone 8-2(80%). Say what you will about Light but his TvZ is probably the closest to Flash you can get without playing Flash himself.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2011 16:51 GMT
#255
Yeah, but hellbound said Light's TvZ is better than Flash's when they're at their respective bests, which is wrong.
Remember Violet.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
June 06 2011 16:53 GMT
#256
On June 07 2011 01:37 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 01:25 RoyW wrote:
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


Come on, when he's on his game he is close to Flash's level, but come on, Flash has an over 70% lifetime record in the match-up. 12-4 this year, 44-18 last year and 42-11 in 09. Light is just nowhere near that level.

Light has 64% lifetime, and has a 56%-62%-59% record in those same years


??

Using TLPD on Light 2009-01-01 to 2010-01-01 I see Light going 28-17(62%) and then in 2010-01-01 to 2011-01-01 I see 37-14 (72.55%) and so far this year he's gone 8-2(80%). Say what you will about Light but his TvZ is probably the closest to Flash you can get without playing Flash himself.

It was the Kwanro effect. When you get Kwanrolled, you are never the same as a player.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 17:07:04
June 06 2011 17:03 GMT
#257
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


No, Light isn't better than Flash. Flash's micro is much better, so he can take advantage of more small things, and this gathers into a very, very large advantage.

Thought Light's TvZ is nothing to lol at. It's just that ZerO must clearly realise that no "Light" will give him the feeling of playing Flash, and therefore he must prepare for much much harder match.

It's the problem, IMHO, why Hydra probably lost so badly... he practiced most likely with Leta, the best CJ terran, right? And he could not withstand the harsh "switch" to Flash's level of power. ZerO must not make the same mistake. Even when playing Light he must calculate his actions based on what FLASH could do in the same situation.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 06 2011 17:43 GMT
#258
I've always wondered what goes through JDs mind when he's preparing for a game vs Flash by playing vs... you know, Hiya or someone.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
June 06 2011 17:55 GMT
#259
On June 07 2011 02:43 Holgerius wrote:
I've always wondered what goes through JDs mind when he's preparing for a game vs Flash by playing vs... you know, Hiya or someone.

"Whatever happens I can't 9 pool"
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
June 06 2011 18:12 GMT
#260
On June 07 2011 02:55 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 02:43 Holgerius wrote:
I've always wondered what goes through JDs mind when he's preparing for a game vs Flash by playing vs... you know, Hiya or someone.

"Whatever happens I can't 9 pool"


Effort would like to have a word with you.
wat
Prev 1 11 12 13 14 15 189 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 5h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
trigger 19
StarCraft: Brood War
actioN 379
PianO 167
ZergMaN 146
Shuttle 139
Hyun 114
Nal_rA 41
Noble 26
Dota 2
febbydoto166
NeuroSwarm147
League of Legends
C9.Mang0619
Other Games
Mew2King30
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick912
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH172
• practicex 42
• Adnapsc2 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 48
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• HappyZerGling144
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 5h
Korean StarCraft League
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.