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KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1778 Posts
June 06 2011 10:21 GMT
#241


Note: oGsMC first in line
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51709 Posts
June 06 2011 10:22 GMT
#242
On June 06 2011 18:55 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:41 mnesthes wrote:
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)
And Fantasy too, maybe.
Flash will probably practice with Crazy-Hydra and Hoejja. Don't know about Jaedong though.

Flash: zero fantasy helping zero? JUST GO BIO


LOL Jokes!
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 06 2011 10:41 GMT
#243
Practice partner doesn't decide there. No matter who you practice with, you can't get the feeling of playing with Flash. But you can imagine it's Flash and imagine his micro is like Flash's. And not do things that Flash's micro punishes easily.

But Light is good at timing pushes (and at bio play, lolol) so he must be useful as a practice partner, for ZerO just not to fuck up something badly.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 06 2011 10:54 GMT
#244
Flash will practice with Jaedong I'm sure, the two are very close friends I believe.

Seeing as light has pretty much the #2 TvZ, its not like ZerO will lack good practice partners.
WriterXiao8~~
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
June 06 2011 11:27 GMT
#245
God damnit I would give my left leg for replays of Flash practising for this with Jaedong.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
O.M.G
Profile Joined June 2011
Bulgaria5 Posts
June 06 2011 11:30 GMT
#246
FLASH FTW
Go Flash 3 - 0 ZerO
OMG
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
June 06 2011 13:22 GMT
#247
On June 06 2011 20:27 ComusLoM wrote:
God damnit I would give my left leg for replays of Flash practising for this with Jaedong.

hhahahahahha true :DDDDD
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
June 06 2011 13:32 GMT
#248
im kinda torn on this one...
zero deserves a title and is always fun to watch...flash on the other hand is one of the best players bw ever had :/ well lets hope for an interesting final!
FTD
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 06 2011 13:39 GMT
#249
Imagine getting a replay pack with all of Flash's practise games during the last year or so. :O:O:O
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
June 06 2011 13:50 GMT
#250
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 06 2011 13:57 GMT
#251
ZerO needs to contact Leta imo for funky plays. He already has the one one of the best bio terran to practice with and he is is already godly vs mech.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 14:08:16
June 06 2011 14:07 GMT
#252
light helping zero is something great for him, lights tvz is super sexy
hope to watch those replays some day ^-^

ace hwaiting!!
RoyW
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Ireland270 Posts
June 06 2011 16:25 GMT
#253
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


Come on, when he's on his game he is close to Flash's level, but come on, Flash has an over 70% lifetime record in the match-up. 12-4 this year, 44-18 last year and 42-11 in 09. Light is just nowhere near that level.

Light has 64% lifetime, and has a 56%-62%-59% record in those same years
ZeaL.
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5955 Posts
June 06 2011 16:37 GMT
#254
On June 07 2011 01:25 RoyW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


Come on, when he's on his game he is close to Flash's level, but come on, Flash has an over 70% lifetime record in the match-up. 12-4 this year, 44-18 last year and 42-11 in 09. Light is just nowhere near that level.

Light has 64% lifetime, and has a 56%-62%-59% record in those same years


??

Using TLPD on Light 2009-01-01 to 2010-01-01 I see Light going 28-17(62%) and then in 2010-01-01 to 2011-01-01 I see 37-14 (72.55%) and so far this year he's gone 8-2(80%). Say what you will about Light but his TvZ is probably the closest to Flash you can get without playing Flash himself.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 06 2011 16:51 GMT
#255
Yeah, but hellbound said Light's TvZ is better than Flash's when they're at their respective bests, which is wrong.
Remember Violet.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
June 06 2011 16:53 GMT
#256
On June 07 2011 01:37 ZeaL. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 01:25 RoyW wrote:
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


Come on, when he's on his game he is close to Flash's level, but come on, Flash has an over 70% lifetime record in the match-up. 12-4 this year, 44-18 last year and 42-11 in 09. Light is just nowhere near that level.

Light has 64% lifetime, and has a 56%-62%-59% record in those same years


??

Using TLPD on Light 2009-01-01 to 2010-01-01 I see Light going 28-17(62%) and then in 2010-01-01 to 2011-01-01 I see 37-14 (72.55%) and so far this year he's gone 8-2(80%). Say what you will about Light but his TvZ is probably the closest to Flash you can get without playing Flash himself.

It was the Kwanro effect. When you get Kwanrolled, you are never the same as a player.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-06 17:07:04
June 06 2011 17:03 GMT
#257
On June 06 2011 22:50 hellbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2011 18:26 jjhchsc2 wrote:
I bet flash's practice partner is jaedong/crazy hydra.
And ZerO's pp is light/really? (lol)


-__- Imho when he is on his game Light is better at TvZ than Flash. So I don't see much reason to laugh at those assumptions about people helping them prepare.


No, Light isn't better than Flash. Flash's micro is much better, so he can take advantage of more small things, and this gathers into a very, very large advantage.

Thought Light's TvZ is nothing to lol at. It's just that ZerO must clearly realise that no "Light" will give him the feeling of playing Flash, and therefore he must prepare for much much harder match.

It's the problem, IMHO, why Hydra probably lost so badly... he practiced most likely with Leta, the best CJ terran, right? And he could not withstand the harsh "switch" to Flash's level of power. ZerO must not make the same mistake. Even when playing Light he must calculate his actions based on what FLASH could do in the same situation.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 06 2011 17:43 GMT
#258
I've always wondered what goes through JDs mind when he's preparing for a game vs Flash by playing vs... you know, Hiya or someone.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
June 06 2011 17:55 GMT
#259
On June 07 2011 02:43 Holgerius wrote:
I've always wondered what goes through JDs mind when he's preparing for a game vs Flash by playing vs... you know, Hiya or someone.

"Whatever happens I can't 9 pool"
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
June 06 2011 18:12 GMT
#260
On June 07 2011 02:55 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 02:43 Holgerius wrote:
I've always wondered what goes through JDs mind when he's preparing for a game vs Flash by playing vs... you know, Hiya or someone.

"Whatever happens I can't 9 pool"


Effort would like to have a word with you.
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