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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2481
On June 11 2011 18:38 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:36 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:33 Scaramanga wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:31 QibingZero wrote:
Zero did pretty damn well against that heavy rax opening Flash did, but the vulture raid was just so unexpected...

He had the upper hand once he got his lurkers out, i dont understand why he didnt take a 4th base


in what imaginable way did he have an advantage when he gotlurkers out

3 base zerg with good tech (hive done at the time) with a large army vs a t who was on 2 base with 5 rax and 3 fac with a smaller army, doesnt that put the zerg ahead?


His army wasn't large though. His lurker count was really low due to losing so many lings and mutas early and having to replace them.
Kyuukyuu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada6263 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2482
On June 11 2011 18:38 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:36 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:33 Scaramanga wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:31 QibingZero wrote:
Zero did pretty damn well against that heavy rax opening Flash did, but the vulture raid was just so unexpected...

He had the upper hand once he got his lurkers out, i dont understand why he didnt take a 4th base


in what imaginable way did he have an advantage when he gotlurkers out

3 base zerg with good tech (hive done at the time) with a large army vs a t who was on 2 base with 5 rax and 3 fac with a smaller army, doesnt that put the zerg ahead?


it does if the zerg has drones and an army and a semblance of map control + access to a 4th gas

his drones were getting raped all day and mines+mnm prevented lurker+swarm pushes to get more gas
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2483
On June 11 2011 18:38 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:36 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:33 Scaramanga wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:31 QibingZero wrote:
Zero did pretty damn well against that heavy rax opening Flash did, but the vulture raid was just so unexpected...

He had the upper hand once he got his lurkers out, i dont understand why he didnt take a 4th base


in what imaginable way did he have an advantage when he gotlurkers out

3 base zerg with good tech (hive done at the time) with a large army vs a t who was on 2 base with 5 rax and 3 fac with a smaller army, doesnt that put the zerg ahead?

3 base zerg...with no drones. no, hive was not done by the time he got lurkers out. (not even close wtf were you watching) and he did not have a large army. at all.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2484
On June 11 2011 18:38 aimaimaim wrote:
Zero played perfect! All of you who are downing Zero's play is having pure blind fanboyism .. it's disgusting ..

JD lost to Zero. Stop insisting he would have been better to go head to head against Flash.

In games 1 and 2, Zero made no mistake in his game play. Flash is just that good.


cept for the crap muta micro and lack of sunkens at the right place
Lee Ssang/ Lee Shin/ Kim Jung Woo/ Kim Min Chul/Jun Tae Yang/Park Soo Ho/Lee Jung Hoon/Choi Sung Hoon/ Moon Sung Won/Park Ji Soo/ Lee Ho Joon/ Jang Min Chul/ Kim Seung Chul/SaSe/IdrA/Ret Fighting! BW4Life
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2485
On June 11 2011 18:40 ShadeR wrote:
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On June 11 2011 18:38 doothegee wrote:
The important thing is to note here that Zero, being played silly by Flash here, completely rolled over Fantasy two days ago. *trollface*

?

already starting to rationalize?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2486
On June 11 2011 18:39 KobraKay wrote:
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On June 11 2011 18:29 doothegee wrote:
I'm strangely serene. I watched GGPlay vs Iris, I watched Jaedong vs Fantasy, and I watched Effort vs Flash. That final series seemed just as bleak as this one after two games.


Sorry...but no!!!

Just one more Flash! Gogogo just one more win!

sorry, you missed the main differerence: that was OSL not MSL
In the woods, there lurks..
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2487
Almost 6k people on streams! :D:D
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2488
Flash will probably have water after this too lol
Natus Vincere Fan | Team Secret Fan | SK Telecom T1 Fan | Lanaya the Templar Assassin <3
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2489
Zero's name is zero. Its just meant to be. He's going to win zero
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2490
On June 11 2011 18:39 d_so wrote:
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On June 11 2011 18:38 Iplaythings wrote:
Besides, noone noticed how good zero was doing in lategame? if he doesnt get raped by vults throughout midgame its gonna be close.


he was still on 3 base though. Never even had a chance to build his 4th

It was morphing but got denied before it was half done.
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
June 11 2011 09:40 GMT
#2491
On June 11 2011 18:38 J1.au wrote:
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On June 11 2011 18:38 letian wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:35 Torenhire wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:33 OneOther wrote:
it's truly, utterly absurd to see someone as dominant as flash in this game of starcraft. i mean all other dudes practice as much as he does, want to win as much as he does, and are considered professionals just as he is. i guess you have to bow down to superior talent at some point. it's ridiculous though.


I'm convinced that the reason Flash's wrist/hands are failing miserably is because he made a deal with the devil

Devil: Sup Flash, I heard you like winning Brood War
Flash: Well...yeah, but you're the devil, mang.
Devil: Win everything ever for the price of your wrists.
Flash: Fuck it, deal.

All geniuses have some weak sides.
its pretty obvious that sooner or later Flash will make the most out of this injury of his, a nice excuse after all. I hope he doesn't, but it seems like he likes to rant over it.

Did you even read his pre-game interview?

What did he say?
$♥$
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13297 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2492
Come on Zero, pull out at least 1 win.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2493
ONE TWO 3-0!
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2494
Remember Effort people, its not over yet.
WriterXiao8~~
Noel Vermillion
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada218 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2495
Good crowd, interesting games.... This is what StarCraft is all about.... when in GSL says like their name it's just a golf clap, but here....... ITS always HYPE ALL THE WAY!!!

Go go Flash end this now!!!
FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu, Free, TossGirl, Action, Stats Always BW FTW!
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2496
On June 11 2011 18:40 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:38 J1.au wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:38 letian wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:35 Torenhire wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:33 OneOther wrote:
it's truly, utterly absurd to see someone as dominant as flash in this game of starcraft. i mean all other dudes practice as much as he does, want to win as much as he does, and are considered professionals just as he is. i guess you have to bow down to superior talent at some point. it's ridiculous though.


I'm convinced that the reason Flash's wrist/hands are failing miserably is because he made a deal with the devil

Devil: Sup Flash, I heard you like winning Brood War
Flash: Well...yeah, but you're the devil, mang.
Devil: Win everything ever for the price of your wrists.
Flash: Fuck it, deal.

All geniuses have some weak sides.
its pretty obvious that sooner or later Flash will make the most out of this injury of his, a nice excuse after all. I hope he doesn't, but it seems like he likes to rant over it.

Did you even read his pre-game interview?

What did he say?


That his wrist wouldn't become a problem for the MSL finals
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2497
On June 11 2011 18:38 Scaramanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 18:36 Kyuukyuu wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:33 Scaramanga wrote:
On June 11 2011 18:31 QibingZero wrote:
Zero did pretty damn well against that heavy rax opening Flash did, but the vulture raid was just so unexpected...

He had the upper hand once he got his lurkers out, i dont understand why he didnt take a 4th base


in what imaginable way did he have an advantage when he gotlurkers out

3 base zerg with good tech (hive done at the time) with a large army vs a t who was on 2 base with 5 rax and 3 fac with a smaller army, doesnt that put the zerg ahead?

worker count. terran is able to produce so so much from 2 base. and adding to that, marines and vultures are the two most cost effective units in the game.
Aah thats the stuff..
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2498
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If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
entlassen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2499
golden badge inc!
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
June 11 2011 09:41 GMT
#2500
HERE WE GO!
Circuit Breaker!
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