• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:40
CEST 17:40
KST 00:40
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202533Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced49BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Serral wins EWC 2025 The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 2025 Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation
Tourneys
LiuLi Cup Weeklies and Monthlies Info Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ 2025 Season 2 Ladder map pool Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend
Strategy
[G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 654 users

ABC [MSL] Ro8 Day 2 - Page 45

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 79 Next
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
May 19 2011 10:20 GMT
#881
On May 19 2011 19:20 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:17 weiliem wrote:
no reaver??

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:15 Holgerius wrote:
So many lurks!

Why no reavers yet?

Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:15 mnesthes wrote:
Is it me or is there no robotics support in sight?

Cant get reavers if protoss doesnt have air superiority.. they get scourged too easily.

defensive reavers is needed vs that kind of sauron
In the woods, there lurks..
aznagent
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong166 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#882
LEE JAEDONG
Quote:
v3ctor
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada53 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#883
I don't get why Grape chose to go with that opening after seeing it fail in the previous set :/ He probably could've done better if he wasn't playing from a disadvantage...
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5595 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#884
I think Jaedong let him live longer to make the win more overwhelming. It is not like him to not kill his opponents directly when he's got the chance... It was obvious that this macro game was what he was looking for the whole series. And in general recently tbh.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 10:21:22
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#885
THAT FANGIRL! I KNOW IT.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[

Touch the Dong his hair, get Flash his shirt AND get Jaedong his Shirt.

WTF.
WriterXiao8~~
pvzvt
Profile Joined October 2009
Israel2097 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#886
good job jaedong tough it was a slow start ..... well played by grape
now for the real show
mind its time to knock hydra out and carve the letter D on his forehead
i say we dust off and nuke it from orbit
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#887
On May 19 2011 19:19 rabidch wrote:
haha grape looked crazy nervous breathing deep


Thats because he just got choked to death Even with 4-5 bases he couldn't keep up with the insanity... seriously crazy jaedong.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
yesplz
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States295 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#888
I really don't like the recent PvZ trend of 2 base v 4 base where the P just waits for their army to get sandwiched by lurkerling instead of using their army to secure expansions so they can actually keep up with zerg late game.

From what I remember, bisu is the only player I've seen recently who actually grabs a 3rd instead of suiciding his army, and he's pretty much the best PvZ atm.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#889
On May 19 2011 19:19 mevshero wrote:
jaedongs tactic:

getting fast 4 base, doing nothing, pump a shitload of units when grape attacks, doing nothing, pumping units again, defending, doing nothing, 1a2a3a4a5a6a and win

sad game


Yeah any D- noob could do that shit easy.
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#890
THIS IS FOR THE SPOILERS. THANKS

Poll: [ABC MSL: Jaedong vs Grape] Recommend Set 5?

Yes (43)
 
63%

If you have time (13)
 
19%

No (12)
 
18%

68 total votes

Your vote: [ABC MSL: Jaedong vs Grape] Recommend Set 5?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

DONGJWA!
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#891
JD had so many lurkers, he didn't know what to do with them.... that's how i felt : \
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-19 10:23:18
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#892
I want to say that I am quite relieved that Jaedong mixed in some Lurker-ZvPs again... I always thought that lurker-based play is very solid and not as instable as Muta/Scourge for example.

On the other hand, when you approach the 30minute mark on 7 bases, maybe it's time for some cows and a little less lurkers.

Well, worked all out for the best, GG.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#893
On May 19 2011 19:19 Invictus wrote:
grape probably felt he couldnt do anything beyond that point, losing his clutch army of archon templar was probably just a downhill game for him

that said jaedong still looks too mortal for my liking

yeah i think he just got really disheartened, but jaedong was setting up for massive econ so it wouldve really been hard to fight him off
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
May 19 2011 10:21 GMT
#894
I think the gg came when it came because Grape simply didn't have the proper mindset there, he had lost his confidence, focus and concentration.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
May 19 2011 10:22 GMT
#895
Impressive stuff from Grape, definitely a player for the future. JD's multi-tasking was just too much the Khan kid towards the end.

At least Grape made JD earn his trip to the next round.
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
May 19 2011 10:22 GMT
#896
Solid series out of jaedong, grape put up a pretty damn good fight.

Grape should go to fantasy school to learn proper GG timing. His skills are lacking in that department.
www.twitch.tv/Thatgooey
legaton
Profile Joined December 2010
France1763 Posts
May 19 2011 10:22 GMT
#897
Grape was good, but nothing really impressive. Jaedong played badly: reaction time to storms were off, early pressure was totally ineffective, lots of small mistakes.
No GG, No Skill - Jaedong <3
HopLight
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden999 Posts
May 19 2011 10:22 GMT
#898
On May 19 2011 19:21 Holgerius wrote:
I think the gg came when it came because Grape simply didn't have the proper mindset there, he had lost his confidence, focus and concentration.


Probably true, his storms throughout the late game were simply amazing though.
GG.NoRe
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)1051 Posts
May 19 2011 10:22 GMT
#899
On May 19 2011 19:21 tomatriedes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2011 19:19 mevshero wrote:
jaedongs tactic:

getting fast 4 base, doing nothing, pump a shitload of units when grape attacks, doing nothing, pumping units again, defending, doing nothing, 1a2a3a4a5a6a and win

sad game


Yeah any D- noob could do that shit easy.

Jaedong is saving something. He knew he got it after the lurker transition and later drop. Looked like he wanted to go sauron, only grape preemtively attacked and GGed
DONGJWA!
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
May 19 2011 10:22 GMT
#900
fuuuhhh, but I miss good old 9 pool speed JD....
all this sauron tricks...
nice grip Jd, nice grip.
Prev 1 43 44 45 46 47 79 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
12:00
Playoff - Day 1/2
Mihu vs ZhanhunLIVE!
Fengzi vs Dewalt
ZZZero.O238
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 104
JuggernautJason79
goblin 66
ForJumy 55
MindelVK 34
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 49988
Jaedong 2823
Mini 1245
BeSt 952
Larva 768
ggaemo 602
Soma 403
ToSsGirL 343
firebathero 339
Rush 281
[ Show more ]
ZZZero.O 238
hero 235
TY 154
Zeus 108
Mong 81
ajuk12(nOOB) 36
HiyA 16
Terrorterran 14
Rock 13
sas.Sziky 1
Dota 2
Gorgc5508
qojqva3155
420jenkins1396
XcaliburYe305
League of Legends
Reynor107
Counter-Strike
fl0m3026
ScreaM1326
sgares373
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor477
Liquid`Hasu386
Other Games
singsing2167
B2W.Neo1199
Hui .405
byalli379
Lowko362
Trikslyr38
Rex6
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Gemini_19 106
• poizon28 27
• sitaska21
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix6
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4255
• Nemesis1928
• WagamamaTV671
League of Legends
• Jankos1669
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
20m
ShoWTimE vs Harstem
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
ByuN vs TBD
Sparkling Tuna Cup
18h 20m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
22h 20m
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d
Wardi Open
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
HCC Europe
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.