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[SPL] MBCGame Hero vs Samsung KHAN - Page 23
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Tomken
Norway1144 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:47 ArvickHero wrote: they already played like last week.. Bisu stomped him I wanna see it again. He's acting all tough because he managed to cheese Dinotoss twice.  | ||
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metzninja
New Zealand626 Posts
Speaking of which, FFFYEAH MBC! I thought there was no chance when Jaehoon had no mining bases. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:47 Turbovolver wrote: So he should've built LESS units, in order to have better held that off? -_- what he needed to do was build more cannons while teching to storm lol.. Stork went for the mass speedlot choice which only works vs fake 3hatch Hydra On May 10 2011 15:48 Holgerius wrote: I wanna see it again. He's acting all tough because he managed to cheese Dinotoss twice. gotta wait til next round.. :\ I do feel terribly sorry for Stork though, so damn sad.. | ||
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Zona
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Harem
United States11393 Posts
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BreakerD
United States159 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:48 Holgerius wrote: I wanna see it again. He's acting all tough because he managed to cheese Dinotoss twice. Its not called cheese its called not enough scout information | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:49 BreakerD wrote: Its not called cheese its called not enough scout information pretty sure its called cheese cos there is no way toss will get a scout out. esp the 2nd game. | ||
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smekz
Portugal503 Posts
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telamascope
United States310 Posts
Why did you have to win twice Hyun :/ | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Anarion55
United States72 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:49 BreakerD wrote: Its not called cheese its called not enough scout information Doesn't that mean bbs isn't cheese? | ||
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Z3kk
4099 Posts
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Piste
6183 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:44 Mascherano wrote: The amount of cheese stork has faced in his last 3 games... I am so sorry Dino Toss stork's response and his greediness isn't helping him at all tho. | ||
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
Anyway, good game by Hyun. Hopefully Stork'll bounce back (and I hope the coaching improves so Stork gets PvTs/PvPs to give him more confidence). | ||
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Turbovolver
Australia2435 Posts
On May 10 2011 15:48 ArvickHero wrote: what he needed to do was build more cannons while teching to storm lol.. Stork went for the mass speedlot choice which only works vs fake 3hatch Hydra I agree, I already said this in my other post on that page. He was hedging his bets, while Hyun laid all his cards down at once. And for the people saying "not enough scouting information", it's not like Stork wasn't trying to scout. I guess he could've sent out 2 probes? How annoying though, having to send out 2 probes every damn PvZ just to make sure it's not 3 hatch hydra x.x edit: This is where game sense for a matchup plays a huge part I suppose. This is much harder for PvZ because of the lack of scouting info. That's why Bisu's early probing with Zealots and later on Corsairs are so valuable (unlike others who enjoy spamming Corsairs to take out OLs). He generally knows how many cannons to make to prevent busts like this (taking into account his Zealot micro). Once you stop the Hydra bust, you can generally attack the third with impunity, teching to templars at the same time. The key, I think, is the Zealot speed timing. Hahaha, Stork's zealot speed timing was fine, that's not the key at all. And it's not like scouting with the corsair is some magic thing that only Bisu does, any Protoss who doesn't scout with the 1st corsair gets routinely called a scrub on TL. Stork also knows how many cannons to make (vs hydra all-ins, I mean... not against JD lings apparently >.>), but he was worried about another fake hydra all in and thus he built a few extra cannons but also a few extra gateways. If he commits purely to cannons he probably wins that game, but he also probably loses the one where it was a fake and Zerg is soon on 4 droned-up bases. And you can't "attack the 3rd with impunity while teching to templars at the same time". If you cannon up, the Z just amasses hydras and you can't even get out without storm. edit edit: Stork should have played it more safe Yeah, I wonder what would have happened if he didn't get over-confident when his zealot legs kicked in and stayed at home. | ||
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JSH
United States4109 Posts
That was complete all-in by Hyun Stork should have played it more safe | ||
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