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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:12 cca1ss1e wrote: lol!! looks like some interesting games.. glad flash came out alive though!! well, happy about jaedong too.. what a group.. can't wait to watch!! Why do you have a T1 icon? O_o | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:10 dibbaN wrote: I love you and all, but really?  Jaedong vs  Bisu is a given for Bisu? Perhaps in WL when Jaedong has to crush a whole team to even get to Bisu, but in starleagues JD is 3-0 vs Bisu, and with the map favouring zerg it would be a cointoss with a slightly rigged coin in favour of Jaedong if anything. On a fair map it would be slightly in favour for Bisu, but it ain't!Haha it's not a sure thing, definitely. What I said is a mixture of the truth (Bisu 5-1 against Jaedong in the last 6 games, most of the wins quite lopsided including the most recent), and the fandom (Jaedong's no.3 in my heart). I trust recent results more than the distinction between Starleague/Proleague. The two had an epic series in GOM that was ruined by a stupid mistake. Their other series are too far back in the past to hold much weight. Clearly, they play at their peak against each other. With the way Jaedong played today he could have won against any Terran, but that doesn't mean Bisu doesn't stand a chance. In the last Stork v Jaedong series, I felt that if Bisu played in game 5 Jaedong would have lost. For what it's worth, I hold nothing back when I say Jaedong deserved to win today. I just wanted Flash to win their winner's game so Bisu would have a better chance. BvJ is a better matchup than BvF  EDIT: When I say I trust recent results more than Starleague/Proleague distinction, I'm not belittling the difference between the individual and team matches. I'm just saying the latter is not as good an indicator on a player's current form. | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:22 DarkMatter_ wrote: I'm surprised that no one has trolled Flash fans about Flash losing to JD without the advantage of a 14CC opening. Me too to be honest. It was a perfect opportunity. | ||
mustaju
Estonia4505 Posts
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svetlin
Bulgaria16 Posts
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dibban
Sweden1279 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:17 Caladbolg wrote: Haha it's not a sure thing, definitely. What I said is a mixture of the truth (Bisu 5-1 against Jaedong in the last 6 games, most of the wins quite lopsided including the most recent), and the fandom (Jaedong's no.3 in my heart). I trust recent results more than the distinction between Starleague/Proleague. The two had an epic series in GOM that was ruined by a stupid mistake. Their other series are too far back in the past to hold much weight. Clearly, they play at their peak against each other. With the way Jaedong played today he could have won against any Terran, but that doesn't mean Bisu doesn't stand a chance. In the last Stork v Jaedong series, I felt that if Bisu played in game 5 Jaedong would have lost. For what it's worth, I hold nothing back when I say Jaedong deserved to win today. I just wanted Flash to win their winner's game so Bisu would have a better chance. BvJ is a better matchup than BvF EDIT: When I say I trust recent results more than Starleague/Proleague distinction, I'm not belittling the difference between the individual and team matches. I'm just saying the latter is not as good an indicator on a player's current form. We fanboys all love to twist the truth in our own ways I suppose, well, now it makes more sense to me. I completely agree about BvJ, that is alot more exciting for some reason. It's not that Bisu is not good vs Terran because we all know he is, but I just think the matchup (FvB) doesn't allow Bisu play up to his full potential for some reason. I suppose there are not many different ways to approach a 20+ tank army. xD. But let's not go into that.Honestly, what can you do vs (when he is his usual self in TvZ too, not just TvP...)  Flash? Nerf the guy already! | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:22 DarkMatter_ wrote: I'm surprised that no one has trolled Flash fans about Flash losing to JD without the advantage of a 14CC opening. Thank God, because no one in their right mind would want to incite Flash fans. They rationalize til kingdom come (at least JD/Bisu/Stork fans are simply irrationally blinded by love). + Show Spoiler + Peace Flash fans. I am one of you (only a little more Bisu than most) | ||
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CCa1ss1e
Canada3231 Posts
Because I like the coach, boxer, oov, best, s2, fantasy and bisu. But Flash is my favourite player, just happens to be on another team. XD | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:29 svetlin wrote: Does anyone know when the draw for the 1/8 finals is? On April 21 2011 23:18 FakePlasticLove wrote: And another season where Protoss gets slaughtered 5 Mirrors. Likelyhood of Horang2 being the only toss in Ro8 = pretty high. Hydra vs StorkLight vs MindLeta vs Neo.G_SoulkeyHyuk vs CalmZerO vs heroHorang2 vs GrapeJaedong vs RealityFlash vs ReallyI really hope Really wins against flash... | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On April 21 2011 23:09 aupstar wrote: Lol agreed. I hope we can see more great games in the near future! ^__^ I'd like to see how Neo.G_Soulkey does against Flash..:DLast time they played Flash beat him with a single group of MnM, it was embarrassing frankly. On April 21 2011 23:22 Bisu-Fan wrote: Ok... I like the 3 points so much... I have a question... How does Protoss win in a situation like this? And another question... Can Toss instead of stasising recall on top of the siege line after stasising like a small portion of the army? i think Bisu got a bit stasis-happy and it was his doom... like stasis the back half and then recall an army on top of a siege line~ He's always saying how he hates tank range, how bout just recalling on top of the army so a) your fighting army gets to fight and b) any reinforcements get really quickly called into battle.. Once the stasis fields are released, the units get gobbled up~ or is this an unviable strat? Regardless of the engagements though Bisu was too behind economically from the start... you can't let Flash get away with it, we've seen it time and time again. That's why Flash had such a ridiculously strong push with so many tanks, because he happily went Rax CC and had a CC up before Bisu had even started his natural. There was a short period where it looked like Bisu could catch up when it was 6 maybe 5 and half bases to 3.. but even if Bisu had engaged better, Flash had so many reinforcements. Recalling on top of armies has been done before and i'm not sure why it's not done more often actually, would be a good way to get the zealots in the middle right away. I personally do it sometimes but usually its more like a desperation move when my natural's under containment, i have all my forces next to my gateways trying to get out; so easier just to recall. I think the problem is, your forces have to be clumped together, and the tank splash just immediately rapes them in the first shots. On April 22 2011 01:22 DarkMatter_ wrote: I'm surprised that no one has trolled Flash fans about Flash losing to JD without the advantage of a 14CC opening. It is hard not to notice a pattern emerge. Remembering the blackout MSL, with 3 hatch hatch vs rax CC.. JD wins, then the series after he loses, mostly in which he had a BO disadvantage. Flash really uses the benefits of an economic opening to his advantage in the midgame. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:52 infinity2k9 wrote: Last time they played Flash beat him with a single group of MnM, it was embarrassing frankly. Not to mention what happened the first time they played. XD Flash was up to what, 10 bases? But I'd love to see how he does vs Flash when he mechs. | ||
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Garnet
Vietnam9056 Posts
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whiterabb1t
Belgium681 Posts
On April 22 2011 01:26 Holgerius wrote: Me too to be honest. It was a perfect opportunity. Only hopeless die hard Flash fans would think of such weak thoughts | ||
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svetlin
Bulgaria16 Posts
This is the draw?!? I could draw them better... Lots of mirror matches. I hope Stork humiliates Hydra to revenge Bisu for being in this group today. | ||
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kamikami
France1057 Posts
It was not fair, Kespa should disqualify Flash for using illegal move to win, he spent 15s in the first game cursing Bisu causing him bad luck... how can someone called "god" be that low to use curses like an ugly witch? And this horrible MSL is over for me, no Bisu = bad game. Let's rate today games : Game 2 and 5 : horrible games, the winner played very bad and still won, the loser was pure awesome and still lost. 0 stars Game 3 : OK - 3 stars Game 4 : Awesome game, the winner is really the best player in the world, watch it !!! - 5 stars Go back to crying now... | ||
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Bisu-Fan
Russian Federation3339 Posts
On April 22 2011 02:05 kamikami wrote: Hic... I'm still crying now...waaaa waaaaa waaaaaaaa woaaaaaaaaaa It was not fair, Kespa should disqualify Flash for using illegal move to win, he spent 15s in the first game cursing Bisu causing him bad luck... how can someone called "god" be that low to use curses like an ugly witch? And this horrible MSL is over for me, no Bisu = bad game. Let's rate today games : Game 2 and 5 : horrible games, the winner played very bad and still won, the loser was pure awesome and still lost. 0 stars Game 3 : OK - 3 stars Game 4 : Awesome game, the winner is really the best player in the world, watch it !!! - 5 stars Go back to crying now... Yeah... this is the truth...  but Game 3 was awesome because the terrible player lost | ||
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Disregard
China10252 Posts
Havent watched the games yet. :D | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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