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MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
November 20 2004 21:34 GMT
#81
I think boxer wanted to exit on a good note
He's been planning to leave progaming, right?
I wonder if he'll stop now, after this drama or still try to win something one last time before leaving.
VdP]EpiphaNy
Profile Joined March 2004
United Kingdom992 Posts
November 20 2004 22:03 GMT
#82
i thought he's not leaving for still a while to come? ..;p
Reach - I love protoss because its tough and straight. Its a race for the men
ky[Z]
Profile Joined January 2003
China1730 Posts
November 20 2004 23:14 GMT
#83
lol....boxer managed to achieved 2nd place in OGN after... .well...how many...4-5 years of his progaming life(?) is quite impressive.
Terran is SOoOo over-powered~!! Especially in TvT~!
SW)RIF
Profile Joined December 2003
United States563 Posts
November 20 2004 23:14 GMT
#84
Im guessing benzoic-acid was either banned or is inactive on teamliquid. This guy was in support of oov months back, and only a few of us were here to defend oov and benzoic. Im glad to see more people coming around, but hopefully not because of bandwagonning.

I think to clarify anyones conception about who will be the best in the future.. they wont be flashy or stylistic. You gotta be a moron to ignore that the game has been refinded into a machine of execution. It becomes more and more difficult for rare strategies or builds to accomplish wins. If anyone dethrowns OOv's dominance in the future, he will have to be even better with the keyboard.
RedDress
Profile Joined November 2004
Poland229 Posts
November 20 2004 23:25 GMT
#85
boxer lose , sad (( HOWEVER gw oVV .
1st - not for fame , 2nd - not for money . Just for aiur.
VerticalHorizon
Profile Joined September 2004
United States415 Posts
November 21 2004 03:08 GMT
#86
nice interview... :-(
Call it the greatest sin to prefer existence over honor and, for the sake of life, to lose the reasons for living. - Juvenal, Satires
EntertainMe
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
864 Posts
November 21 2004 03:10 GMT
#87
A: They cheered me while believing in me. I'm so thankful. Also I'm particularly thankful to Koh, In-gyu (Canata). Even though he is in the semifinals of the "King of Rookies," he gave up on his own league, and practiced with me for 12 hours a day for 3 days, taking breaks only to eat. I'm so thankful. It's something I felt while practicing with him but this is a player that is really going to get big. (Canata) is a player who practiced with me for the Cengame finals and joined our team. I think he will be the next one to bear the flag for SK Telecom's terran tradition.


practiced 12 hours a day for 3 days, taking breaks only to eat......

of tvt.....

gg, oov takes my respect
Alpha
Profile Joined September 2004
France1495 Posts
November 21 2004 04:22 GMT
#88
did boxer really cried too bad
The psi bolts enlighten me.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
November 21 2004 04:44 GMT
#89
Umm, not to try to lead this thread off topic or anything, but where is Boxer's post game interview?
badme
Profile Joined February 2004
United States49 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-18 16:21:05
November 21 2004 06:03 GMT
#90
Nightkin
Profile Joined November 2004
Germany4 Posts
November 21 2004 07:07 GMT
#91
I really want to knwo why Boxer cried. Because he lost, and was disappointed, or was it becasue he was just touched by the situation.
I would like to knwo more about it, and hope that there will be a post final interview with Boxer.
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
November 21 2004 08:23 GMT
#92
Boxer always looks like he's on the verge of tears. Like after game 4 of 2002 starleague when he lost to reach :/
Jaxx
Profile Joined July 2004
Slovakia758 Posts
November 21 2004 09:06 GMT
#93
I'd like to see things that happened after the last match like victory ceremony, did anybody record also this?

And btw., this iview really impressed me and made me change my opinion about oov, i think he's really nice guy saying this. Anyway, i hope BoxeR will make it in next OGN...
instantbunz
Profile Joined November 2004
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-21 12:34:01
November 21 2004 12:27 GMT
#94
I think a lot of people wanted Boxer to win, partly because of his long history with Starcraft. After all, he was the one that raised the standard of gaming in Starcraft, bringing innovative ways in playing, such as certain kinds of build, control of units, etc. He is one of the few members that have been there since the beginning of progamers.

Personally, I was also hoping that Boxer would win. But in another light I can see how this would benefit Boxer a lot. He did set the record for entering the most semi-finals, beating Yellow, and he is one championship away from winning the most titles. I remember that Boxer said that this final would be as though he was fighting with himself, since he had taught iloveoov lots of things (but not all, as iloveoov was surprised by the build order in the fourth game that he had never seen before).

One interesting thing that I saw at FighterForum.com was their Weekly MVP. The way the MVP is decided is from the votes of the commentators (which make up a large portion of the vote) and from the votes of the people.

It is interesting how 60% of the commentators (the Starcraft experts, analyzers of the game) and 39% of the people voted for iloveoov. This is about half of the people that voted for him.

When Boxer beat Yellow in the semi-finals, 90% of the commentators and 72% of the people voted for him. Normally, when people get picked for MVP, it should be about this much difference.

I can see why only 60% commentators voted for iloveoov. It is because in the beginning of almost every match, he was being controlled by Boxer's mindgames. It was only because of Boxer's little but extremely crucial mistakes (such as not completely scouting a certain area) that turned the tide of the game.

From reading Boxer's message to his fans (536,000+ people registered) on the forum (cafe.daum.net/yohwanfan) posted a few hours ago, I take back what I said about Boxer having the least pressure, because of his experience in the finals. Boxer had to put up with more pressure than iloveoov in the finals, because he had to hold up all that he had achieved, in his position as the Emperor of Terran.

He also wrote on the forum how he could not concentrate during the game, regardless of how much he had planned for the game, ever since the moment he knew that he would be facing iloveoov in the finals. Though this sounds like an excuse for losing the game, I really believe what he said. To lose games 1 and 5 (maps Bitfrost III), both games of which the commentators predicted that Boxer would win if played, tells me that Boxer, though his initial start/build order was going as practiced, could not continue to carry on to the end because of the enormous amount of pressure.

But for now, I am confident that Boxer will forget the past achievements, and return to the one and only

SlayerS_`BoxeR`

-instantbunz-
Veni.Vidi.Vici.
mightypenny_ph
Profile Joined September 2004
Philippines259 Posts
November 21 2004 14:15 GMT
#95
gogogogo BoxeR
SlayerS_`BoxeR` + [ReD]NaDa
likeboxer
Profile Joined December 2003
Korea (South)465 Posts
November 21 2004 14:23 GMT
#96
On November 21 2004 21:27 instantbunz wrote:
I think a lot of people wanted Boxer to win, partly because of his long history with Starcraft. After all, he was the one that raised the standard of gaming in Starcraft, bringing innovative ways in playing, such as certain kinds of build, control of units, etc. He is one of the few members that have been there since the beginning of progamers.

Personally, I was also hoping that Boxer would win. But in another light I can see how this would benefit Boxer a lot. He did set the record for entering the most semi-finals, beating Yellow, and he is one championship away from winning the most titles. I remember that Boxer said that this final would be as though he was fighting with himself, since he had taught iloveoov lots of things (but not all, as iloveoov was surprised by the build order in the fourth game that he had never seen before).

One interesting thing that I saw at FighterForum.com was their Weekly MVP. The way the MVP is decided is from the votes of the commentators (which make up a large portion of the vote) and from the votes of the people.

It is interesting how 60% of the commentators (the Starcraft experts, analyzers of the game) and 39% of the people voted for iloveoov. This is about half of the people that voted for him.

When Boxer beat Yellow in the semi-finals, 90% of the commentators and 72% of the people voted for him. Normally, when people get picked for MVP, it should be about this much difference.

I can see why only 60% commentators voted for iloveoov. It is because in the beginning of almost every match, he was being controlled by Boxer's mindgames. It was only because of Boxer's little but extremely crucial mistakes (such as not completely scouting a certain area) that turned the tide of the game.

From reading Boxer's message to his fans (536,000+ people registered) on the forum (cafe.daum.net/yohwanfan) posted a few hours ago, I take back what I said about Boxer having the least pressure, because of his experience in the finals. Boxer had to put up with more pressure than iloveoov in the finals, because he had to hold up all that he had achieved, in his position as the Emperor of Terran.

He also wrote on the forum how he could not concentrate during the game, regardless of how much he had planned for the game, ever since the moment he knew that he would be facing iloveoov in the finals. Though this sounds like an excuse for losing the game, I really believe what he said. To lose games 1 and 5 (maps Bitfrost III), both games of which the commentators predicted that Boxer would win if played, tells me that Boxer, though his initial start/build order was going as practiced, could not continue to carry on to the end because of the enormous amount of pressure.

But for now, I am confident that Boxer will forget the past achievements, and return to the one and only

SlayerS_`BoxeR`

-instantbunz-


I love your post.
theDUD3
Profile Joined November 2004
Philippines1 Post
November 21 2004 15:37 GMT
#97
BoxeR was the one who brought him into the team. BoxeR was one of the only people to believe in oov. BoxeR taught oov almost everything he knows.


poor is the student who doesn't surpass his master.
DSky.Flayer
Profile Joined November 2003
Finland102 Posts
November 21 2004 21:26 GMT
#98
He sounds like little sad :O
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
November 21 2004 21:28 GMT
#99
On November 21 2004 21:27 instantbunz wrote:
I think a lot of people wanted Boxer to win, partly because of his long history with Starcraft. After all, he was the one that raised the standard of gaming in Starcraft, bringing innovative ways in playing, such as certain kinds of build, control of units, etc. He is one of the few members that have been there since the beginning of progamers.

Personally, I was also hoping that Boxer would win. But in another light I can see how this would benefit Boxer a lot. He did set the record for entering the most semi-finals, beating Yellow, and he is one championship away from winning the most titles. I remember that Boxer said that this final would be as though he was fighting with himself, since he had taught iloveoov lots of things (but not all, as iloveoov was surprised by the build order in the fourth game that he had never seen before).

One interesting thing that I saw at FighterForum.com was their Weekly MVP. The way the MVP is decided is from the votes of the commentators (which make up a large portion of the vote) and from the votes of the people.

It is interesting how 60% of the commentators (the Starcraft experts, analyzers of the game) and 39% of the people voted for iloveoov. This is about half of the people that voted for him.

When Boxer beat Yellow in the semi-finals, 90% of the commentators and 72% of the people voted for him. Normally, when people get picked for MVP, it should be about this much difference.

I can see why only 60% commentators voted for iloveoov. It is because in the beginning of almost every match, he was being controlled by Boxer's mindgames. It was only because of Boxer's little but extremely crucial mistakes (such as not completely scouting a certain area) that turned the tide of the game.

From reading Boxer's message to his fans (536,000+ people registered) on the forum (cafe.daum.net/yohwanfan) posted a few hours ago, I take back what I said about Boxer having the least pressure, because of his experience in the finals. Boxer had to put up with more pressure than iloveoov in the finals, because he had to hold up all that he had achieved, in his position as the Emperor of Terran.

He also wrote on the forum how he could not concentrate during the game, regardless of how much he had planned for the game, ever since the moment he knew that he would be facing iloveoov in the finals. Though this sounds like an excuse for losing the game, I really believe what he said. To lose games 1 and 5 (maps Bitfrost III), both games of which the commentators predicted that Boxer would win if played, tells me that Boxer, though his initial start/build order was going as practiced, could not continue to carry on to the end because of the enormous amount of pressure.

But for now, I am confident that Boxer will forget the past achievements, and return to the one and only

SlayerS_`BoxeR`

-instantbunz-


Can you please give me a link to your 3rd post? I've read only 2 and I'm definitely looking for the 3rd one now. Seriously, I <3 you.
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uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
November 22 2004 00:00 GMT
#100
[QUOTE]On November 21 2004 23:23 likeboxer wrote:
[QUOTE]On November 21 2004 21:27 instantbunz wrote:

From reading Boxer's message to his fans (536,000+ people registered) on the forum (cafe.daum.net/yohwanfan) posted a few hours ago...

I love your post. [/QUOTE]

thanks for your post... you motivated me to translate the entire note that you mention here (originally i wasn't going to do it b/c it was too much work but you motivated me!).

non korean-speakers, check the tourneys section for the translation.

welcome to teamliquid.net~~
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
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