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flip_a_coin
Greece7 Posts
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GBataille
France19 Posts
On March 23 2011 21:33 Emon_ wrote: Baby showed some beastly micro in that game. Two tanks and a wraith vs. 5 goliaths!? When Flash targeted the SCV, Baby hid him INSIDE the bunker, for a second, then out again to continue bunker repair! Also, I'm surprised Flash didn't break the contain. I guess that's what happens when you proxy factory + machine shop O_O That was some of the most amazing micro I've ever seen. I didn't notice first time I saw the game. Holy shit. | ||
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
On March 24 2011 06:36 flip_a_coin wrote: Seriously I don’t understand some people Flash is a person that usually doesn’t do mistakes and if he feels he took the wrong decisions many times he may quit a game I’m sure he will give some thoughts to it and the next time will be more ready to face the same situation, this the beauty about it. In the bottom line no Flash no party. Pretty sure the last OSL (which was awesome) begs to differ. Flash is the most consistently dominate player in Starcraft (except ofr of course maybe Bisu when he gets insanely hot), but come on man. No Flash No Party? Flash is great, and he will often have great games, but I don't find him THAT entertaining.. He's no Boxer who is constantly coming from behind, or a Fantasy who wins over fans with awesome builds. Flash is consistent, dominant, and all-around amazing, but Starcraft fans have plenty to cheer for when he's out, and when lesser-famous players like Baby outplay him, and outmicro him like that last game. | ||
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Megash
Poland80 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:04 TheShimmy wrote: Pretty sure the last OSL (which was awesome) begs to differ. Flash is the most consistently dominate player in Starcraft (except ofr of course maybe Bisu when he gets insanely hot), but come on man. No Flash No Party? Flash is great, and he will often have great games, but I don't find him THAT entertaining.. He's no Boxer who is constantly coming from behind, or a Fantasy who wins over fans with awesome builds. Flash is consistent, dominant, and all-around amazing, but Starcraft fans have plenty to cheer for when he's out, and when lesser-famous players like Baby outplay him, and outmicro him like that last game. Flash is probably the single player with the most jaw dropping comebacks of anyone. Not really the right comparison between him and Boxer. | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:04 TheShimmy wrote: Pretty sure the last OSL (which was awesome) begs to differ. Flash is the most consistently dominate player in Starcraft (except ofr of course maybe Bisu when he gets insanely hot), but come on man. No Flash No Party? Flash is great, and he will often have great games, but I don't find him THAT entertaining.. He's no Boxer who is constantly coming from behind, or a Fantasy who wins over fans with awesome builds. Flash is consistent, dominant, and all-around amazing, but Starcraft fans have plenty to cheer for when he's out, and when lesser-famous players like Baby outplay him, and outmicro him like that last game. Flash has amazing mechanics and very often comes back from BO disadvantages and even mid-game disadvantages. Also, iloveoov has a huge influence on Fantasy's builds and is a huge influence on Fantasy's play - something that is needed as Fantasy doesn't have Flash's mechanics and ability to straight-up outplay somebody from a disadvantage. Accordingly, Fantasy is famous for "his" builds because they are central to his success, whereas Flash is not famous for his builds since they are generally safe builds designed to survive the early game so that he can outplay his opponent in the mid and late games. | ||
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:55 tyCe wrote: Flash has amazing mechanics and very often comes back from BO disadvantages and even mid-game disadvantages. Also, iloveoov has a huge influence on Fantasy's builds and is a huge influence on Fantasy's play - something that is needed as Fantasy doesn't have Flash's mechanics and ability to straight-up outplay somebody from a disadvantage. Accordingly, Fantasy is famous for "his" builds because they are central to his success, whereas Flash is not famous for his builds since they are generally safe builds designed to survive the early game so that he can outplay his opponent in the mid and late games. I am well aware, as well as everyone is, that iloveoov obviiusly aids fantasy with his builds. Flash does have absolutely outstanding play and can come back against players with lesser mechanics. I said that he is the consistently most dominant and outstanding player. I just completely disagree with the mindset some have. "No Flash No Party" makes no sense considering other extremely entertaining terran players who often press their luck more (baby, hiya) or use interesting builds (Fantasy). | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:41 TwoToneTerran wrote: Flash is probably the single player with the most jaw dropping comebacks of anyone. Not really the right comparison between him and Boxer. Post some of these "jaw dropping comebacks" please. All I've seen are games where he overcomes some early setbacks. Impressive, but nothing "jaw dropping" about them, especially considering that most of the time, it's usually due to the other player choking and making some huge blunder. | ||
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DJONES
United States218 Posts
On March 25 2011 00:55 tyCe wrote: Flash has amazing mechanics and very often comes back from BO disadvantages and even mid-game disadvantages. Also, iloveoov has a huge influence on Fantasy's builds and is a huge influence on Fantasy's play - something that is needed as Fantasy doesn't have Flash's mechanics and ability to straight-up outplay somebody from a disadvantage. Accordingly, Fantasy is famous for "his" builds because they are central to his success, whereas Flash is not famous for his builds since they are generally safe builds designed to survive the early game so that he can outplay his opponent in the mid and late games. I have to disagree with you there. Flash often goes with the most greedy opening possible (14cc's against Jaedong, 1rax cc openers in TvP, TvT) He then uses his superior mechanics to translate a small early game lead into a decisive victory. In any case, his mid-late game management is strong enough to overcome most early game situations. This coming from a self-professed Flash hater. | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On March 25 2011 02:51 DarkMatter_ wrote: Post some of these "jaw dropping comebacks" please. All I've seen are games where he overcomes some early setbacks. Impressive, but nothing "jaw dropping" about them, especially considering that most of the time, it's usually due to the other player choking and making some huge blunder. You are not even worth responding, maybe you should watch FLASH GAMES ? Flash comebacks are JAW DROPPING ^ 5 , i am sleepy, but i can give 2 games just from memories Flash vs Firebathero, when he makes a SICK SICK comeback, dropping upper expansion, some even said that was the biggest comeback of all games ever, and then against leta, where he came back from something noone should come back ever, even though leta made a mistake, but that is the point of a comeback, if a players plays perfectly, u cant make a comeback right ? opponent must make a mistake, so when u say its usually due to other player making a blunder, well it wouldnt be possible to make a comeback if there was no mistake on the opponent side, but the point is that most of the times these mistakes ARE FORCED by great play from flash!! so maybe instead of trolling, do us a favour and go watch games from the best player of all time.. | ||
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maximuspita
1093 Posts
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
On March 25 2011 06:10 DarkMatter_ wrote: Yeah, winning the game after the opponent loses about 10 dropships full of units is totally the most jaw dropping comeback ever. Haha valid point the man makes here. How mnay times has flash microed back in after being contained? Or fought back after losing a base early? Or after his build egts countered? | ||
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flip_a_coin
Greece7 Posts
NO FLASH NOOOO PARTY hahaha | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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TheShimmy
United States1808 Posts
On March 25 2011 06:30 flip_a_coin wrote: Look at you here the group 7 and group 5 played and they have so little posts in there and you steal in here talking about what flash did or what flash didn’t witch is my point exactly NO FLASH NOOOO PARTY hahaha Lol no its just that all the Flash Fans wnna brag about his killer comeback skills he allegedly has. He's amazing yeah, but he's not that entertaining and starcraft does just fine without him. | ||
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 25 2011 06:31 DarkMatter_ wrote: When I think of "jaw dropping comebacks", I think of a game like Boxer vs. joyo. In the minds of some Flash fans, it seems that any game where Flash wins after being in a bad/disadvantageous position qualifies as a jaw dropping comeback. If that's what qualifies as jaw dropping, I can post dozens of games by Jaedong where he makes "jaw dropping comebacks". Wow, you consider what pretty much everyone acknowledges as the greatest comeback ever to be a jaw dropping comeback? That's pretty shocking. Flash vs Kal: | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
And please nobody mention Flash v Kwanro. That was Kwanro killing himself. | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On March 25 2011 06:15 TheShimmy wrote: Haha valid point the man makes here. How mnay times has flash microed back in after being contained? Or fought back after losing a base early? Or after his build egts countered? | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
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