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On March 08 2011 20:14 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:10 Spica wrote:
And looks like Flash is wrong; SKT is the one to fear more than Stars, proven by today's match. I'd like to think that Spica, I really would. Problem is I can't see anybody capable of beating Flash. Bisu and Fantasy are our most in-form players, and both stick with him for a while, but ultimately can't seem to find the win against him. Fantasy in particular has had some great TvTs against Flash, but Flash invariably comes out on top.
Bisu, Best, or Fantasy could potentially beat Flash. If Bisu does as well as we know he can do, he is the one most capable.
Though unless something changes, KT is probably more likely to win.
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On March 08 2011 20:11 bearbuddy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:09 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Thanks for the LR thread and the stream.
Hard-lines Stars fans. If Free gets some form back you're going to have a scary deep team. Today was SKT's day.
At least now we get to hear Bisu's response to the ninja expo question.... That would be fine, if we were still in round 2 and not in the second to last place. ._.
Things are going to get turned on their heads again when WL finishes. I think there's plenty of time in Rds 5 and 6 for Stars to make the play-offs.
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On March 08 2011 20:14 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:10 Spica wrote:
And looks like Flash is wrong; SKT is the one to fear more than Stars, proven by today's match. I'd like to think that Spica, I really would. Problem is I can't see anybody capable of beating Flash. Bisu and Fantasy are our most in-form players, and both stick with him for a while, but ultimately can't seem to find the win against him. Fantasy in particular has had some great TvTs against Flash, but Flash invariably comes out on top.
Never say never! The last match against KT was pretty close; Fantasy had to just slip up and let Flash come back with the advantage. If you're a SKT fan, you should stay optimistic. ;P
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On March 08 2011 20:16 Musou wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:15 Spica wrote:On March 08 2011 20:12 Musou wrote:On March 08 2011 20:10 Spica wrote:
And looks like Flash is wrong; SKT is the one to fear more than Stars, proven by today's match. Light didn't even get sent out, so Flash could still be right. Stars just happened to fail to Zerg today, which is what they have always been weak against. Even if Light was sent out, his chances of winning a TvP would be reduced even further due to the next set's map being Aztec. He miiiiiiiight've won on there, but eh, luck would have to play a big factor for him as well. Best is 1-2 on Aztec, with vT 0-1. Light is 1-1 on Aztec with vP 0-1. It's still a tossup!
PerfectMan.
I like Light, but his TvP is atrocious this season.
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On March 08 2011 20:16 Musou wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:15 Spica wrote:On March 08 2011 20:12 Musou wrote:On March 08 2011 20:10 Spica wrote:
And looks like Flash is wrong; SKT is the one to fear more than Stars, proven by today's match. Light didn't even get sent out, so Flash could still be right. Stars just happened to fail to Zerg today, which is what they have always been weak against. Even if Light was sent out, his chances of winning a TvP would be reduced even further due to the next set's map being Aztec. He miiiiiiiight've won on there, but eh, luck would have to play a big factor for him as well. Best is 1-2 on Aztec, with vT 0-1. Light is 1-1 on Aztec with vP 0-1. It's still a tossup!
Rain can still play a solid PvT, especially with Carriers
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On March 08 2011 20:17 Spica wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:14 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:On March 08 2011 20:10 Spica wrote:
And looks like Flash is wrong; SKT is the one to fear more than Stars, proven by today's match. I'd like to think that Spica, I really would. Problem is I can't see anybody capable of beating Flash. Bisu and Fantasy are our most in-form players, and both stick with him for a while, but ultimately can't seem to find the win against him. Fantasy in particular has had some great TvTs against Flash, but Flash invariably comes out on top. Never say never! The last match against KT was pretty close; Fantasy had to just slip up and let Flash come back with the advantage. If you're a SKT fan, you should stay optimistic. ;P
Well I'm definitely that, I just find optimism hurts more when your boys let you down 
But seriously, I'd love to see Fantasy beat Flash b/c he's had him on the ropes so many times but been unable to finish games. Admittedly part of that is due to Flash's brilliance, but still, those close games he lets slip away hurt.
SKT hwaiting!!
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On March 08 2011 20:16 Musou wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:15 Spica wrote:On March 08 2011 20:12 Musou wrote:On March 08 2011 20:10 Spica wrote:
And looks like Flash is wrong; SKT is the one to fear more than Stars, proven by today's match. Light didn't even get sent out, so Flash could still be right. Stars just happened to fail to Zerg today, which is what they have always been weak against. Even if Light was sent out, his chances of winning a TvP would be reduced even further due to the next set's map being Aztec. He miiiiiiiight've won on there, but eh, luck would have to play a big factor for him as well. Best is 1-2 on Aztec, with vT 0-1. Light is 1-1 on Aztec with vP 0-1. It's still a tossup!
He lost to Sun before, so he might have lost to him again if he was sent out on there. Unforeseen twist of events!
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The mistake was sending Really instead of Light.
Edit:
People like to emphasize Light's poor TvP but the fact is that he all-killed T1 last year and the year before he 3-killed them. And both times, Coach Park sent Best, Fantasy and Bisu.
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Well that seemed easy o.O S2 won two games, very impressive
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On March 08 2011 20:25 Ryo wrote:
The mistake was sending Really instead of Light.
Edit:
People like to emphasize Light's poor TvP but the fact is that he all-killed T1 last year and the year before he 3-killed them. And both times, Coach Park sent Best, Fantasy and Bisu.
Perhaps the coach saw in practice that it wasn't going to happen?
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On March 08 2011 20:25 Ryo wrote:
The mistake was sending Really instead of Light.
Edit:
People like to emphasize Light's poor TvP but the fact is that he all-killed T1 last year and the year before he 3-killed them. And both times, Coach Park sent Best, Fantasy and Bisu.
A player a year ago and a player now are usually a lot different. Last year, Bisu had his Yongtaek spell and lost games in the worst fucking manner. Couple years back, Sea had some of the best SK Terran lategame (Sea vs Jaedong Andromeda anyone?). To say that Light is still pretty good at TvP atm (at least on these maps) is just denial :\
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Light's TvP is at the point where you have to logically bet against him vs. players like Perfectman. Good protoss players will tear him up.
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On March 08 2011 20:37 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:25 Ryo wrote:
The mistake was sending Really instead of Light.
Edit:
People like to emphasize Light's poor TvP but the fact is that he all-killed T1 last year and the year before he 3-killed them. And both times, Coach Park sent Best, Fantasy and Bisu. A player a year ago and a player now are usually a lot different. Last year, Bisu had his Yongtaek spell and lost games in the worst fucking manner. Couple years back, Sea had some of the best SK Terran lategame (Sea vs Jaedong Andromeda anyone?). To say that Light is still pretty good at TvP atm (at least on these maps) is just denial :\
Since when did I say Light is pretty good at TvP? He just plays well against SKT, MBC players in general do.
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s2...... what the f***......
Edit: and also.... Light is much better than Really in TvP since the past 12 months : )
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On March 08 2011 20:40 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:37 ArvickHero wrote:On March 08 2011 20:25 Ryo wrote:
The mistake was sending Really instead of Light.
Edit:
People like to emphasize Light's poor TvP but the fact is that he all-killed T1 last year and the year before he 3-killed them. And both times, Coach Park sent Best, Fantasy and Bisu. A player a year ago and a player now are usually a lot different. Last year, Bisu had his Yongtaek spell and lost games in the worst fucking manner. Couple years back, Sea had some of the best SK Terran lategame (Sea vs Jaedong Andromeda anyone?). To say that Light is still pretty good at TvP atm (at least on these maps) is just denial :\ Since when did I say Light is pretty good at TvP? He just plays well against SKT, MBC players in general do.
hmm I guess.. but he's still 0-2 against Rain, who probably would've won easily on Aztec
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On March 08 2011 21:05 ArvickHero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2011 20:40 Ryo wrote:On March 08 2011 20:37 ArvickHero wrote:On March 08 2011 20:25 Ryo wrote:
The mistake was sending Really instead of Light.
Edit:
People like to emphasize Light's poor TvP but the fact is that he all-killed T1 last year and the year before he 3-killed them. And both times, Coach Park sent Best, Fantasy and Bisu. A player a year ago and a player now are usually a lot different. Last year, Bisu had his Yongtaek spell and lost games in the worst fucking manner. Couple years back, Sea had some of the best SK Terran lategame (Sea vs Jaedong Andromeda anyone?). To say that Light is still pretty good at TvP atm (at least on these maps) is just denial :\ Since when did I say Light is pretty good at TvP? He just plays well against SKT, MBC players in general do. hmm I guess.. but he's still 0-2 against Rain, who probably would've won easily on Aztec
Hence Light should have been sent out instead of Really on Icarus. Since Really's TvP is terrible anyway these days.
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On March 08 2011 20:25 Ryo wrote:
The mistake was sending Really instead of Light.
Edit:
People like to emphasize Light's poor TvP but the fact is that he all-killed T1 last year and the year before he 3-killed them. And both times, Coach Park sent Best, Fantasy and Bisu.
It was a mistake. agree with you. they should send Light instead of really. yes, his TvP is not good now but somehow Light is really good when play against SKT.
free win and I'm happy. s2 = he really surprise me today with his 2 kills.
by the way, congrats SKT.
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s2 rolled through two ace players of stars. Wow.
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Pre-match pictures:
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Seems like Light's fans gave him a cake. The other player is  hOn_sin
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