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On January 30 2011 17:13 Turbovolver wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 16:56 Milkis wrote:
Holy shit, the Stork Interview is HUGE
soooo long. this is like a OSL winner's interview haha
anyway for people bitching about Stork/Fantasy, Stork admitted pretty much how he only learned how to deal with Fantasy's build on the train ride back home so yeah. Stork admits that he got absolutely destroyed by Fantasy -- outplayed in strategies and play so i don't know why the fans are so delusional regarding this :O Exactly, Stork got outplayed in strategies and he lost. Not in mechanics, or in gamesense, both things which he trumpts Fantasy in. This is what Stork fans have been saying the whole time. Glad you came around to the right point of view, Milkis 
Ok... why do you need to rub it in that Stork has better mechanics or game sense? You do realize that it's the people that were rooting for Stork that felt the need to point these things out right? Quite unnecessarily as well.
It's like me beating you in the 100m sprint and you coming up to me afterwards and saying "I'm still more athletic than you". No one gives a shit to be honest. The results are what count.
Fantasy fans are not saying that Fantasy > Stork, and yet some people feel the need to say that Stork > Fantasy. The only things they have said are that Fantasy outplayed Stork, which is the fact.
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farout~~ just when PR seemed to look a whole lot easier...(bisu rank 1)
stork comes out and gets game 6 handed to him kindly by bisu
and fantasy somes and gets owned from partying too much the night before
stork still no.1 on pr?
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On January 30 2011 17:24 TheJoyBringer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 17:13 Turbovolver wrote:On January 30 2011 16:56 Milkis wrote:
Holy shit, the Stork Interview is HUGE
soooo long. this is like a OSL winner's interview haha
anyway for people bitching about Stork/Fantasy, Stork admitted pretty much how he only learned how to deal with Fantasy's build on the train ride back home so yeah. Stork admits that he got absolutely destroyed by Fantasy -- outplayed in strategies and play so i don't know why the fans are so delusional regarding this :O Exactly, Stork got outplayed in strategies and he lost. Not in mechanics, or in gamesense, both things which he trumpts Fantasy in. This is what Stork fans have been saying the whole time. Glad you came around to the right point of view, Milkis Ok... why do you need to rub it in that Stork has better mechanics or game sense? You do realize that it's the people that were rooting for Stork that felt the need to point these things out right? Quite unnecessarily as well. It's like me beating you in the 100m sprint and you coming up to me afterwards and saying "I'm still more athletic than you". No one gives a shit to be honest. The results are what count. Fantasy fans are not saying that Fantasy > Stork, and yet some people feel the need to say that Stork > Fantasy. The only things they have said are that Fantasy outplayed Stork, which is the fact.
let the stork fans be delusional, it's all they can do
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if mechanics measure then Hyuk is the greatest player of all time
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#1 PR should be Flash once again imo despite that loss to zero.
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Wow...
Bisu and BeSt, why do you suddenly decide to become yong-taek and WorSt now ?
LOL
SKT fans v Stork fans so funny.
That's only the Terran portion, since they seem to focus on Fantasy and not criticize Bisu there's no need to release the real trolls yet lol.
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Ok. The results is surprised me. Stork, you are back :D
Congratulation.
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On January 30 2011 17:28 trexbqs wrote:
Ok. The results is surprised me. Stork, you are back :D
Congratulation.
What surprised me more is some people(like yourself) thinks he's gone in the first place.
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On January 30 2011 17:24 TheJoyBringer wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 17:13 Turbovolver wrote:On January 30 2011 16:56 Milkis wrote:
Holy shit, the Stork Interview is HUGE
soooo long. this is like a OSL winner's interview haha
anyway for people bitching about Stork/Fantasy, Stork admitted pretty much how he only learned how to deal with Fantasy's build on the train ride back home so yeah. Stork admits that he got absolutely destroyed by Fantasy -- outplayed in strategies and play so i don't know why the fans are so delusional regarding this :O Exactly, Stork got outplayed in strategies and he lost. Not in mechanics, or in gamesense, both things which he trumpts Fantasy in. This is what Stork fans have been saying the whole time. Glad you came around to the right point of view, Milkis Ok... why do you need to rub it in that Stork has better mechanics or game sense? You do realize that it's the people that were rooting for Stork that felt the need to point these things out right? Quite unnecessarily as well. It's like me beating you in the 100m sprint and you coming up to me afterwards and saying "I'm still more athletic than you". No one gives a shit to be honest. The results are what count. Fantasy fans are not saying that Fantasy > Stork, and yet some people feel the need to say that Stork > Fantasy. The only things they have said are that Fantasy outplayed Stork, which is the fact.
Hi there, thank you for posting. I'm going to quote this post because these overzealous Stork fans need to read it (and your previous one to that really delusional Stork fan was entertaining).
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On January 30 2011 17:35 Monkeyshark wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 17:28 trexbqs wrote:
Ok. The results is surprised me. Stork, you are back :D
Congratulation. What surprised me more is some people(like yourself) thinks he's gone in the first place.
I mean, it must be hard for him because lost in OSL yesterday and how much happy is I am to see he win today not just against Bisu but also Fantasy.
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dude its not like stork lost a finals for the first time!! haha 
just stop this non-sense argument, honestly, in a bo5 the winner is the player that played better - always, even more when its a 3-0, theres nothing to argue about
glad to see stork win against bisu tho, best toss still prevails :>
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On January 30 2011 17:50 smekz wrote:dude its not like stork lost a finals for the first time!! haha just stop this non-sense argument, honestly, in a bo5 the winner is the player that played better - always, even more when its a 3-0, theres nothing to argue about glad to see stork win against bisu tho, best toss still prevails :>
Bisu > Zero
Zero 3-0 Stork
=> ??
Being better at PvP doesn't really make you better, and we just don't know who's better until one becomes clearly superior to the other in the scene. Don't jump into stupid conclusion or you won't get the end of it lol.
Also, Stork > Fanta all other time, Fanta 3:0 Stork yesterday, how can you conclude that Fanta > Stork ? We still don't know who's better and that's it.
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On January 30 2011 16:56 Milkis wrote:
Holy shit, the Stork Interview is HUGE
soooo long. this is like a OSL winner's interview haha
anyway for people bitching about Stork/Fantasy, Stork admitted pretty much how he only learned how to deal with Fantasy's build on the train ride back home so yeah. Stork admits that he got absolutely destroyed by Fantasy -- outplayed in strategies and play so i don't know why the fans are so delusional regarding this :O
Yeah the interview is mad long holy shit
But he didn't say he actually found a specific way to deal with it. More like a general idea of how to play against it.
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On January 30 2011 16:18 Blackhole wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 30 2011 16:09 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 16:02 patrick321 wrote:On January 30 2011 15:52 StorkHwaiting wrote:On January 30 2011 15:47 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:On January 30 2011 15:44 StorkHwaiting wrote:On January 30 2011 15:38 nayumi wrote:On January 30 2011 15:36 MarineHeroSamKhan wrote:
SONG BYUNG GOO!!!! I wonder how Fantasy even managed to beat stork 3-0 by being better? By doing blind hard counter builds that lose to anything other than Stork's predictable builds. Like I said so many times already, Stork lost the finals. Fantasy didn't win them. He just showed up. So Fantasy took 3 games off Stork last night and 1 loss today makes him someone who "only" showed up and Stork the obviously better player. Maybe if Stork would stop being so cocky and thinking that his opponents could not plan some counters, he would actually not "lose" any more finals. If you know anything about Stork as a player, you would know that's exactly what happened. Stork is an arrogant bastard and he drops final after final because he's convinced he's better than the opponent and all he needs to do is play solid no-mistake games. Hubris has always been his downfall. Stork was heavily favored vs Bisu when they met. Stork was heavily favored vs JD when they met. And Flash was an upstart when they met, although he did crush Stork in the GOM Star Invitational just before it. In that series too, Stork stubbornly kept going carriers even though Flash had proven once already in a bo5 that he had Stork's number. That's just the way Stork is. He's ridiculously bone-headed sometimes. When has stork ever been heavily favored against jaedong? They're about even and that's all its ever been. Of the games you listed, stork vs bisu was a close bo5 that went into an hour long 5th game where stork forgot range. The game vs jaedong was a bo5 that went to 5 games and 2 of jaedong's wins were 4 pools. I don't even see your point, though. How do these close losses make it look like stork is an arrogant bastard? There's no link at all between one and the other. You must not have been around for the series vs JD. JD was a relative unknown back then with a horrendous ZvP winrate. Stork was the heavy favorite. In almost every OSL Finals stork has been in, he's been the favorite. And he's lost because of it. Please learn some SC history. Close losses to Bisu and JD were huge upsets when they happened. patrick321 Joined TL.net Tuesday, 24th of August 2004
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On January 30 2011 17:24 TheJoyBringer wrote:
Ok... why do you need to rub it in that Stork has better mechanics or game sense? You do realize that it's the people that were rooting for Stork that felt the need to point these things out right? Quite unnecessarily as well.
It's like me beating you in the 100m sprint and you coming up to me afterwards and saying "I'm still more athletic than you". No one gives a shit to be honest. The results are what count.
Fantasy fans are not saying that Fantasy > Stork, and yet some people feel the need to say that Stork > Fantasy. The only things they have said are that Fantasy outplayed Stork, which is the fact.
OK, so here you say "Fantasy fans are not saying that Fantasy > Stork".
Well for every Turbovolver, there's a disciple:
stork is a surrender monkey, every time he has to show some mental durability he gets tunnel vision and completely falls apart or forgets most basic stuff, like to upgrade goon range. The only reason he won that previous match vs fantasy was because in game five he got an opening by stealing fantasy's gas, after that he played like a robot and won
A collection of T1 fan posts, which get the games from the 3-0 series completely wrong. They give a lot less credit to Stork's play in the finals than I give to Fantasy, and I've been a vocal Fantasy anti-fan in all related threads. Indeed, I was a fantasy anti-fan before I was even a Stork fan.
+ Show Spoiler +a terribly disappointing showing from Stork stork getting humiliated lol Stork didn't put up a fight at all
what a disappointment. Stork, honestly? Where did you go? Is that a bad clone playing because I don't believe how you can just lay the biggest egg in your life.
I'll be generous and leave out all the comments about silver mining, and the guy who said that Stork's gf ate his homework before breaking up with him (???)
I guess this is valid though, because the result was 3-0, and as you say, results are all that matter? Do you truly believe that? I know I myself have a lot more passion for starcraft than just looking at the numbers. Indeed, this is the very attitude I rally against. Whether it's the Flash fans who only like him because he's on top, the Savior fanboys living in the past, the people who cling to Stork and Bisu solely because they are the performing protosses... These people don't watch and enjoy BroodWar, they just like belonging to the "winning" group. When Stork was on top a while ago, getting to finals vs Flash in GOM and OSL, I was just getting into Starcraft, and I actively disliked him!
Stork was outplayed solidly by Fantasy in game 3. In game 1 and 2, he was outplayed before the games even started, if you ask me. As two individual players, I think Stork is stronger than Fantasy, and ELO agrees. So yeah, I will say Stork > Fantasy. And I'll feel it.
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On January 30 2011 18:17 Carefree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 16:18 Blackhole wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On January 30 2011 16:09 StorkHwaiting wrote:Show nested quote +On January 30 2011 16:02 patrick321 wrote:On January 30 2011 15:52 StorkHwaiting wrote:On January 30 2011 15:47 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:On January 30 2011 15:44 StorkHwaiting wrote:On January 30 2011 15:38 nayumi wrote:On January 30 2011 15:36 MarineHeroSamKhan wrote:
SONG BYUNG GOO!!!! I wonder how Fantasy even managed to beat stork 3-0 by being better? By doing blind hard counter builds that lose to anything other than Stork's predictable builds. Like I said so many times already, Stork lost the finals. Fantasy didn't win them. He just showed up. So Fantasy took 3 games off Stork last night and 1 loss today makes him someone who "only" showed up and Stork the obviously better player. Maybe if Stork would stop being so cocky and thinking that his opponents could not plan some counters, he would actually not "lose" any more finals. If you know anything about Stork as a player, you would know that's exactly what happened. Stork is an arrogant bastard and he drops final after final because he's convinced he's better than the opponent and all he needs to do is play solid no-mistake games. Hubris has always been his downfall. Stork was heavily favored vs Bisu when they met. Stork was heavily favored vs JD when they met. And Flash was an upstart when they met, although he did crush Stork in the GOM Star Invitational just before it. In that series too, Stork stubbornly kept going carriers even though Flash had proven once already in a bo5 that he had Stork's number. That's just the way Stork is. He's ridiculously bone-headed sometimes. When has stork ever been heavily favored against jaedong? They're about even and that's all its ever been. Of the games you listed, stork vs bisu was a close bo5 that went into an hour long 5th game where stork forgot range. The game vs jaedong was a bo5 that went to 5 games and 2 of jaedong's wins were 4 pools. I don't even see your point, though. How do these close losses make it look like stork is an arrogant bastard? There's no link at all between one and the other. You must not have been around for the series vs JD. JD was a relative unknown back then with a horrendous ZvP winrate. Stork was the heavy favorite. In almost every OSL Finals stork has been in, he's been the favorite. And he's lost because of it. Please learn some SC history. Close losses to Bisu and JD were huge upsets when they happened. patrick321 Joined TL.net Tuesday, 24th of August 2004 StorkHwaiting Joined TL.net Thursday, 22nd of October 2009
Although I wasn't around during the JD vs Stork finals, I believe that indeed, Stork was heavily favoured. During my research into the past, the general sentement was that JD was a newcomer (royal road) who had rather weak ZvP.
I remember reading a Final Edit or some article detailing how JD had "suddenly" learned how to ZvP. As well, none of those games was a 4 pool. He must have mistaken Ever 2007 for Korean Air OSL S2.
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well at least this is a sign of Stork not disappearing.
Whats the overall rankings for the Proleague right now anyway?
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HAHAHA! One game and we've got turn of 180 degree XD
It's almoust like placing Hyuk highter than Flash after this embarasing game that eliminated bonjwa from OSL. Thats all like fantasy had to win 4-0 or better 5-0 to finaly convince haters that his not that bad player as they are talking about. Becouse one lose and it's giving a final proof that his inferior player :D
+ Show Spoiler +Now I understand, why Poland was so succesfull in foreign SC scene. Not becouse we were THAT GOOD. Thats becouse the others liked to hit a wall with their heads till they die XD
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AGH this is why i hate fantasy
he'll play brilliant games and then he'll play lackluster games and then he'll play terrible games all within good measure of each other
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Nice to see Stork win but I have a funny feeling Bisu didn't play his 100% purposly to make his BFF get back into winning mentality and Fantasy had no chance to beat anyone after yesterday and needs some rest to focus back.
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