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nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-08 09:53:53
October 08 2004 00:00 GMT
#1
this post is long and very boring; you've been warned. I need to do something to stay awake so I'm writing it anyways.

I just returned from WCG last night. It's been a very weird past 48 hours

I left here on Wed. at 11 a.m. and flew to San Francisco. First there was a whirlwhind visit to Blizzard North where I saw the facility talked to the guys for 30-45 minutes then was gone again. From there it was straight to the hotel in San Francisco and onto to the WCG. The opening ceremony was a bit strange. They had quite a nice stage right in front of City Hall with singers, dancers, bands and some guest speakers. One was Gavin Newsome the major, the other was some American Football player. I have no clue who he was since I don't follow that sport but he just talked about how cool he was mostly ("oh I remember a great game I had" ).

To get to our seats they had these models / escorts they'd hired that walk you the whole 50 meters from the check in booth to the seats. I didn't quite get the point of that, or the point of there being a half dozen of those girls there but I wasn't complaining. After the ceremony I finally recognized someone I knew and saw Entropy from SG who was with TreK and uhh... someone who I met twice and was a cool guy but has fallen victim to my utter inability to remember names. I had a whole 60 seconds to talk to them before I had to go to a dinner thing.

The dinner was really fancy and I didn't feel at all at home. It was one of those 5-course meals with champagne and caviar. Everyone you meet is a president or boss of something so you have to be polite and can't say things like "sup" and pick your nose while you talk to them. I came out with a pile of business cards, zero names I remembered, but content with a good meal. There was some interesting entertainment too such as a FIFA exhibition match (some Italian and some German player I believe), and singers from Phantom of the Opera. It was a "quaint evening" in the sense you'd say that with a British accent while sipping tea in some formal dining room. You'd make me happier with a beer and a burger but still it was nicely arranged I guess.

We didn't get back to the hotel until midnight and had to be up early as hell yesterday to have some meetings. The morning consisted mostly of walking around the tents and booths and the said meetings. Around 11 in the morning the other person I was travelling with left for the airport so I finally had some time to myself.

The first thing I learned is that they, very cleverly, hired security guards who have never heard of computer games. While it was amusing the first time myself and a higher-up in the WCG organizing comittee both got told we couldn't enter the lower area of the auditiorium, I think I got kicked out three other times. Usually they'd boot me, I'd walk out, and right back in another door. Security at its finest.

Speaking of security. That afternoon I was looking through my bag and found this enormous cigar cutter which I have clue where the hell it came from. It had a really big metal blade on it. Those same bastards at the airport that make me take off my shoes to walk through the metal detector missed me having that in the xray machine twice. If it makes them feel any better I forgot I had it in my bag too. I've come to the conclusion you can bring what you damn well want on board in the US as long as you don't hide it in your shoe, aren't a 3 year old kid making pretend gun shapes with your fingers while near security personell, or aren't some 75 year old black lady making jokes about being Osama Bin Ladin with a sex change operation near a security person.

The games seemed quite organized peripherally. They had some really neat displays and show events. I kept consistently hearing from players though that WCG kept them in the dark and that on the practical side of things the tournament was not that organized. The marketing firm they hired did an awesome job on painting buses, getting all the speakers and shows lined up but apparently found it too challenging to convince more than 5 non-gamers or press to show up. I only saw a few people on the street during lunch hour mostly and no one that seemed general public-like in appearance inside.

I did meet an elderly gentleman from Texas with a cowboy hat on the street who asked me "are y'all one of them compuuuuuuturrr game players?" I just nodded and started inching away carefully and slowly hoping he wouldn't shoot me or something.

Not even a minute after improving my understanding of George Bush's cognitive and critical thinking processes I suddenly had a big huge TV camera sitting on the shoulders of a little Korean reporter sticking in my face. His friend had a microphone in front of me. I thought I'd been "volunteered" to interview, and was waiting for him to ask me something but he just kept nodding at me for about 10 seconds. Then they just said... "talk". I have no clue what I said but I just remember it being utterly meaningless and incoherent. Something bla bla .. we're proud to be part of blabla bla in San Francisco bla bla.. WCG is good, yes? bla bla bla" and on and on for about 30 seconds. Then they nodded vigorously at me and were gone just as quick as they ambushed me.

Finally I had time to meet some of the gamers. I made my way over to the War 3 area and met some guys who didn't speak English and whose names I forgot. If that was you... pleasure to meet you! If none of the said people read this forum... I didn't particularly care for my adventures on "that" side of the WCG hall. I was a little surprised to meet Xellos though. Pro-gamers look a lot bigger on TV!

The StarCraft players were a lively bunch though. I've forgotten everyone's real name already but I recognized 90% of the game handles, so it was nice to chat between rounds of security coming by and making me walk out one door and in another right behind them. After a few hours of hanging out and watching a couple of games (Grrr-Leg, Artosis-austrian guy, and a few other games) I had to get back to the airport.

This is when the day started to get weird. I arrived back here at 9:30 p.m. last night and still had "an hour's worth" of work I had to finish up. At 5a.m. I was finally finished and half delirious so I went to my car to try and go home but could barely stand. So I put down the carseat and went to sleep in the middle of our parking lot here. As of 3:00 a.m. there were still a lot of people working (2/3 full parking lot!) so at least I wasn't alone in my torments.

WCG was fun.

Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
October 08 2004 00:10 GMT
#2
T_T_T_T_T_T_T_T

I want to be there
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
October 08 2004 00:16 GMT
#3
WCG is a blast. Suprisingly it isn't the games and live watching, but instead the BYOC with national players and hanging out in the hotels after the day's events.

All of the playesr from Canada/USA were really nice, fun and funny. Zealotito has to be the funniest person I've met so far. He is ALWAYS listening to trance with his huge ear phones and kind of dancing in place. He makes the funniest noises in-game. He sees vultures running toward his un-defended expo and starts doing this little shrieking sound and making weird circles in the air by shaking his head. Hes fuckign awesome.

I know I am going to forget a ton, but Trek played poker with us also and Day was in a room a few floors down with the war3 players. I met Draco and Tomson, but Draco was very intent on practicing at the BYOC all day since he has games today. Anyway, tons of cool people. Fakesteve and I will maybe do a game report on any good games that happen as well as get tons of cool pics. We got press tickets now and will attempt to get ontot he floor to take pics and talk with more players that we have not met yet. here coems another fun day!
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
October 08 2004 00:18 GMT
#4
platypus, who are you?
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-08 00:34:21
October 08 2004 00:20 GMT
#5
On October 08 2004 09:18 Hautamaki wrote:
platypus, who are you?

I was the guy walking around with a blue beanie and a light grey sweatshirt (tall guy with a goatee). Not sure if we met
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
October 08 2004 00:43 GMT
#6
Just wondering if you flew to SF just for two days or what? Why didn't you stay longer?
GulleFjuN@Europe
nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
October 08 2004 00:44 GMT
#7
On October 08 2004 09:43 LogaiN wrote:
Just wondering if you flew to SF just for two days or what? Why didn't you stay longer?


Yep. Unfortunately I only had two days time; I have a ton of work I need to get done so I couldn't stay until the weekend
Hautamaki
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Canada1311 Posts
October 08 2004 00:50 GMT
#8
no, I wasn't there, I didn't meet you or anything lol, I'm in China. I was just wondering why you were going to fancy dinners with bosses and going to sales meetings and why you were even in SF at all.
True learning is not the memorization of knowledge; it is the internalization of patterns.
Diedne
Profile Joined November 2002
Sweden42 Posts
October 08 2004 00:51 GMT
#9
On October 08 2004 09:00 nvnplatypus wrote:
I did meet an elderly gentleman from Texas with a cowboy hat on the street who asked me "are y'all one of them compuuuuuuturrr game players?" I just nodded and started inching away carefully and slowly hoping he wouldn't shoot me or something.


Ahahaha! I understand your reaction.
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
October 08 2004 00:51 GMT
#10
hey very nice "impressions" writing. funny stuff.
I put the fu in fun
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
October 08 2004 01:14 GMT
#11
I really liked that, so easy to read (like I began reading then suddenly I was done, hard to explain what I mean I guess) and yeah didn't feel in the least bit longwinded or boring ever. Just perfect !
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
October 08 2004 01:30 GMT
#12
haha thanks for the journal report, platy. An enjoyable read.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
October 08 2004 05:47 GMT
#13
Maybe if I'm motivated I'll spell / grammar check that post later. Now that I'm awake I re-read what I wrote
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
October 08 2004 09:31 GMT
#14
haha now I remember why Araxas sounded so familiar - it's your website domain =)
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LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
October 08 2004 09:44 GMT
#15
I wish I was there... T.T
All Those beneath an angry star
DaZe
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden2111 Posts
October 08 2004 09:50 GMT
#16
nice, sounds really great ~~
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
October 08 2004 10:03 GMT
#17
Sounds like a fun time. Hopefully in the next few years the organization of the national events gets better.
Broom
nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
October 08 2004 10:07 GMT
#18
On October 08 2004 19:03 red.venom wrote:
Sounds like a fun time. Hopefully in the next few years the organization of the national events gets better.


I hope so too. For most gamers the national and regional qualifiers are their only chance to participate and enjoy the WCG gaming atmosphere. Some events were extremely good from what I understand, but others much less so.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12236 Posts
October 08 2004 10:34 GMT
#19
By the way I'm sure that American football player was Steve Young, one of the greatest 49er quarterbacks in NFL history =]
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nvnplatypus
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Netherlands1300 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-10-08 10:47:13
October 08 2004 10:42 GMT
#20
On October 08 2004 19:34 Excalibur_Z wrote:
By the way I'm sure that American football player was Steve Young, one of the greatest 49er quarterbacks in NFL history =]


Ah

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