EPTOn January 24 2011 22:49 J1.au wrote:
As of right now: ZvP: 14-26 (35%). Amazing.
As of right now: ZvP: 14-26 (35%). Amazing.
Without Bisu : ZvP : 14-20
Bisu is amazing.
edit : mistake on the record.
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
Without Bisu : ZvP : 14-20 Bisu is amazing. edit : mistake on the record. | ||
ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On January 24 2011 22:57 hellbound wrote: Zero faked all in, took a fourth behind his third and let the macro advantage carry him to victory, that strat cannot be done on benzene because it's a two player map. not to mention a long rush distance, and narrow choke into the nat favors the Protoss in the Hydra bust situation. Also the Bisuprobe scouting everything lol | ||
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Gescom
Canada3516 Posts
Does anyone have the stats without any of his games factored in? It's probably a lot closer to 50%. edit -- was posted above, PvZ; 10-13. Single handedly breaking a matchup right now! ;p | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
To be fair, sometimes you can't really just take out the top player. But who has the best ZvP score right now? | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On January 24 2011 22:59 Gescom wrote: I don't think there should be a ZvP / PvZ discussion when it's really just Bisu owning up that matchup right now. Does anyone have the stats without any of his games factored in? It's probably a lot closer to 50%. edit -- was posted above, PvZ; 10-13. Single handedly breaking a matchup right now! ;p kinda like Flash w/ TvZ lol | ||
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Finale
249 Posts
14-26 is the current stat for Winners League alone, but you deducted Bisu's PvZ record for both WL and SPL. Minus Bisu's 6-0 in Winners League, the current PvZ match up is 14-20. Also worth mentioning: Bisu (6-0), Stork (5-0), Violet (4-0), Stats (3-0), and Jaehoon (2-0) account for 20/26 PvZ wins. | ||
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hellbound
United Kingdom2242 Posts
On January 24 2011 22:59 ArvickHero wrote: not to mention a long rush distance, and narrow choke into the nat favors the Protoss in the Hydra bust situation. Also the Bisuprobe scouting everything lol Yeah all that too, still ling speed will kill any probe, even bisuprobe. Anyway let the pros figure it out, getting lurker tech fast was my two cents, maybe they will come out with a pure air build or queens or whatever. Good games today. Thank you for streaming Fedor. | ||
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xarthaz
1704 Posts
Uhh that isnt fair. You gotta remove the most successful zergs(as in total games played would be equal to that of bisu) as well. | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On January 24 2011 23:06 Finale wrote: Also worth mentioning: Bisu (6-0), Stork (5-0), Violet (4-0), Stats (3-0), and Jaehoon (2-0) account for 20/26 PvZ wins. In the 6 dragons era, the non-dragons were garbage. This isn't much different. + Show Spoiler + Did I just compare Jaehoon to a dragon? | ||
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Scodia
United Kingdom588 Posts
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Hazard
Norway594 Posts
 Nice to see Sun and Fanta taking couple games and Bisu can get easy Zerg clean in da end - best performance from team in current Winners League. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On January 24 2011 22:59 Gescom wrote: I don't think there should be a ZvP / PvZ discussion when it's really just Bisu owning up that matchup right now. Does anyone have the stats without any of his games factored in? It's probably a lot closer to 50%. edit -- was posted above, PvZ; 10-13. Single handedly breaking a matchup right now! ;p Stork? | ||
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endy
Switzerland8970 Posts
On January 24 2011 23:06 Finale wrote: 14-26 is the current stat for Winners League alone, but you deducted Bisu's PvZ record for both WL and SPL. Minus Bisu's 6-0 in Winners League, the current MU is 14-20. eh sorry I thought he was talking about PL including the first round. Indeed I deducted Bisu's record for both. You are right. Btw, why do you called the first two rounds SPL. Winners league is a part of SPL too. It's just a special round with a different format, but still a part of SPL. Anyway, I understood what you meant, just asking  | ||
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Finale
249 Posts
On January 24 2011 23:12 endy wrote: eh sorry I thought he was talking about PL including the first round. Indeed I deducted Bisu's record for both. You are right. Btw, why do you called the first two rounds SPL. Winners league is a part of SPL too. It's just a special round with a different format, but still a part of SPL. Anyway, I understood what you meant, just asking I just split them since the stats are tracked individually in TLPD and we were talking about stats. And for those keeping track who haven't already noticed: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/cg28j.png) | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
Wut? | ||
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xxpack09
United States2160 Posts
On January 24 2011 23:18 Nouar wrote: What's fun about ELO is that bisu is 83pts behind JD in vT, 120pts behind in vP, SIX pts above in vZ, yet ahead of JD overall........... Wut? Yeah, I call BS on that | ||
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hitthat
Poland2349 Posts
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mustaju
Estonia4505 Posts
vs.X ELO is more stagnant than the sum ELO. | ||
Spica
United States5582 Posts
Still kinda sad that Bisu couldn't make his 4th all-kill to piss off Flash even more, but whatevs, it'll come later. | ||
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Finale
249 Posts
On January 24 2011 23:18 Nouar wrote: What's fun about ELO is that bisu is 83pts behind JD in vT, 120pts behind in vP, SIX pts above in vZ, yet ahead of JD overall........... Wut? Bisu has more overall games played and wins this season (37-9 in all leagues) than Jaedong (28-10). It also depends on the skill of the respective players that they both defeated. His vT and vP are still that much lower than Jaedong's because he hasn't matched Jaedong in those match-ups over a prolonged period of time (i.e. since exiting his slump). As mustaju said, it takes longer to adjust. | ||
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