• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 13:41
CET 19:41
KST 03:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1812Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises1Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft What monitor do you use for playing Remastered? BW General Discussion (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Russo-Ukrainian War Thread 12 Days of Starcraft Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1375 users

[SWL] Hwaseung OZ vs. KT Rolster - Page 5

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 48 49 50 Next All
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
January 17 2011 01:59 GMT
#81
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats
☺
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
January 17 2011 02:02 GMT
#82
Heh, only one of all those maps has TvZ stats higher than 50%. Granted, on some of them only a handfull of games was played, but it's still interesting, given the general trend...
FetusFondler
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States246 Posts
January 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#83
So excited!! HYPE HYPE HYPE!!! :D
None are so busy as the fool and knave.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
January 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#84
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats


your oz insignia sure isn't convincing
you seem quite full of flash
jaedong imba
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
January 17 2011 02:38 GMT
#85
damn amazing banner! clash of the titans tonight!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
January 17 2011 02:54 GMT
#86
On January 17 2011 11:28 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats


your oz insignia sure isn't convincing
you seem quite full of flash

Jaedong has been so disappointing lately. His play shows lack of confidence.
☺
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 02:59:56
January 17 2011 02:56 GMT
#87
Stunning banner.

Will we get to see an FvJ after 2 rounds of no-shows?

I worry for the Dong though... he's been faltering lately vs some of the better players on the scene.

Regardless, hype hype hype!

Ideal result:

Flash > 3 OZ
Flash < Jaedong
3 KT < Jaedong

What will probably happen:

Stats/Action vs Anytime/Killer/Hiya, then Flash shows up and annihilates everyone including a 1v2 vs Lomo+BackHo ><. God is terrifying
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Ido
Profile Joined November 2005
Germany661 Posts
January 17 2011 03:01 GMT
#88
epic writeup
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
January 17 2011 03:06 GMT
#89
Thank you for the awesome OP and the writeups!

Go Oz! :D
NemeZine
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru7 Posts
January 17 2011 03:12 GMT
#90
KT Rolster will win :D:D:D i hope the jD vs flash match, this could be interesting !! bs JD with less moral and flash without the first place in the power rank!!!! come on FLASHH !!!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 17 2011 03:13 GMT
#91
God I love winner's league...we're seeing an FvJ tonight guaranteed
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
January 17 2011 03:14 GMT
#92
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats

I'm pretty sure Stats' stats are better than Flash's stats
Translator:3
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 17 2011 03:16 GMT
#93
On January 17 2011 12:14 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats

I'm pretty sure Stats' stats are better than Flash's stats


Yo dawg...I heard you like Stats
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 17 2011 03:16 GMT
#94
On January 17 2011 11:54 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 11:28 slappy wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats


your oz insignia sure isn't convincing
you seem quite full of flash

Jaedong has been so disappointing lately. His play shows lack of confidence.

You're no fan of your team if you can't still support them after they hit a low point.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
January 17 2011 03:30 GMT
#95
On January 17 2011 12:16 Lightwip wrote:

You're no fan of your team if you can't still support them after they hit a low point.


so JD = team?

while that may be true, it is still depressing to think about JvF especially if like me you only got into BW this last year and only remember losses. i'm not rooting for flash, but i am not very optimistic for oz given their PL performances as of late.

oz fighting!
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#96
This match will possibly decide which of the two teams will remain at the bottom of the pack (and the other will have a good chance of continuing the upward surge). I have a feeling Jaedong's tyrant rage is near the maximum and after seeing his team go down 0-3, he will step in for an epic reverse AK involving a couple of 4-pools and proxy hatch and all sorts of TYRANT RAGE.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#97
On January 17 2011 12:30 ToFu. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 12:16 Lightwip wrote:

You're no fan of your team if you can't still support them after they hit a low point.


so JD = team?

while that may be true, it is still depressing to think about JvF especially if like me you only got into BW this last year and only remember losses. i'm not rooting for flash, but i am not very optimistic for oz given their PL performances as of late.

oz fighting!

I'll be honest, that sounds like some fairweather fandom.
Either get some faith in your JD/team or be a Flash fan and stick to it. Just because JD is playing uninspired right now doesn't mean you shouldn't support him.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 17 2011 03:38 GMT
#98
Jaedong is just the anchor, I'm expecting Anytime to 4-0 KT with ez.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 17 2011 03:41 GMT
#99
I just realized something.
If JD beats Flash decisively, then he will have pretty much solved what's been keeping him down and he could very well recover his judgment.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 17 2011 03:42 GMT
#100
On January 17 2011 12:41 Lightwip wrote:
I just realized something.
If JD beats Flash decisively, then he will have pretty much solved what's been keeping him down and he could very well recover his judgment.


Yesss

Strangely enough JD's ZvT is looking better than his ZvP nowadays
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 48 49 50 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1d 18h
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 454
RotterdaM 407
BRAT_OK 71
JuggernautJason35
RushiSC 35
MindelVK 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 21330
EffOrt 674
ggaemo 237
Hyun 49
Aegong 48
PianO 39
Zeus 37
yabsab 27
SilentControl 4
Dota 2
LuMiX1
League of Legends
C9.Mang0157
Counter-Strike
fl0m956
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr92
Other Games
Grubby5336
Gorgc3165
FrodaN895
Beastyqt586
B2W.Neo305
ToD236
DeMusliM146
monkeys_forever137
Mew2King109
IndyStarCraft 109
Livibee92
QueenE90
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 58
• HeavenSC 44
• naamasc241
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 38
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2846
Other Games
• imaqtpie1093
• WagamamaTV325
• Shiphtur166
Upcoming Events
OSC
1d 18h
Korean StarCraft League
2 days
OSC
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Patches Events
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-29
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.