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[SWL] Hwaseung OZ vs. KT Rolster - Page 5

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Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
January 17 2011 01:59 GMT
#81
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats
☺
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
January 17 2011 02:02 GMT
#82
Heh, only one of all those maps has TvZ stats higher than 50%. Granted, on some of them only a handfull of games was played, but it's still interesting, given the general trend...
FetusFondler
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States246 Posts
January 17 2011 02:19 GMT
#83
So excited!! HYPE HYPE HYPE!!! :D
None are so busy as the fool and knave.
slappy
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1271 Posts
January 17 2011 02:28 GMT
#84
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats


your oz insignia sure isn't convincing
you seem quite full of flash
jaedong imba
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
January 17 2011 02:38 GMT
#85
damn amazing banner! clash of the titans tonight!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
January 17 2011 02:54 GMT
#86
On January 17 2011 11:28 slappy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats


your oz insignia sure isn't convincing
you seem quite full of flash

Jaedong has been so disappointing lately. His play shows lack of confidence.
☺
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1170 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-17 02:59:56
January 17 2011 02:56 GMT
#87
Stunning banner.

Will we get to see an FvJ after 2 rounds of no-shows?

I worry for the Dong though... he's been faltering lately vs some of the better players on the scene.

Regardless, hype hype hype!

Ideal result:

Flash > 3 OZ
Flash < Jaedong
3 KT < Jaedong

What will probably happen:

Stats/Action vs Anytime/Killer/Hiya, then Flash shows up and annihilates everyone including a 1v2 vs Lomo+BackHo ><. God is terrifying
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
Ido
Profile Joined November 2005
Germany661 Posts
January 17 2011 03:01 GMT
#88
epic writeup
TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
January 17 2011 03:06 GMT
#89
Thank you for the awesome OP and the writeups!

Go Oz! :D
NemeZine
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru7 Posts
January 17 2011 03:12 GMT
#90
KT Rolster will win :D:D:D i hope the jD vs flash match, this could be interesting !! bs JD with less moral and flash without the first place in the power rank!!!! come on FLASHH !!!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 17 2011 03:13 GMT
#91
God I love winner's league...we're seeing an FvJ tonight guaranteed
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
January 17 2011 03:14 GMT
#92
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats

I'm pretty sure Stats' stats are better than Flash's stats
Translator:3
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 17 2011 03:16 GMT
#93
On January 17 2011 12:14 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats

I'm pretty sure Stats' stats are better than Flash's stats


Yo dawg...I heard you like Stats
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 17 2011 03:16 GMT
#94
On January 17 2011 11:54 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 11:28 slappy wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:59 Release wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:53 lluminium wrote:
On January 17 2011 10:28 noojOh wrote:
if kt's coach is smart, they will send flash out first because it will be unexpected but if he is able to beat jaedong early on, the game is kt's and even if he doesn't, flash will be able to beat enough of oz's zerg and toss players (killer, princess, backho). hiya's tvt is not enough to beat flash so that won't be a problem either

That's a pretty big gamble. Oz can literally tire Flash out (wrist) and save Jaedong for the 4th game and a reverse all-kill. On top of that, Bloody Ridge ZvT isn't bad either (based on stats, though Jaedong did lose one on it). Not saying this isn't a huge gambit either...

Flash > Map imbalance
Flash Stamina > A Team's Stamina
Flash Stat's > Other Person's stats


your oz insignia sure isn't convincing
you seem quite full of flash

Jaedong has been so disappointing lately. His play shows lack of confidence.

You're no fan of your team if you can't still support them after they hit a low point.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ToFu.
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
331 Posts
January 17 2011 03:30 GMT
#95
On January 17 2011 12:16 Lightwip wrote:

You're no fan of your team if you can't still support them after they hit a low point.


so JD = team?

while that may be true, it is still depressing to think about JvF especially if like me you only got into BW this last year and only remember losses. i'm not rooting for flash, but i am not very optimistic for oz given their PL performances as of late.

oz fighting!
Constipation Zerg Fighting!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#96
This match will possibly decide which of the two teams will remain at the bottom of the pack (and the other will have a good chance of continuing the upward surge). I have a feeling Jaedong's tyrant rage is near the maximum and after seeing his team go down 0-3, he will step in for an epic reverse AK involving a couple of 4-pools and proxy hatch and all sorts of TYRANT RAGE.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 17 2011 03:37 GMT
#97
On January 17 2011 12:30 ToFu. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2011 12:16 Lightwip wrote:

You're no fan of your team if you can't still support them after they hit a low point.


so JD = team?

while that may be true, it is still depressing to think about JvF especially if like me you only got into BW this last year and only remember losses. i'm not rooting for flash, but i am not very optimistic for oz given their PL performances as of late.

oz fighting!

I'll be honest, that sounds like some fairweather fandom.
Either get some faith in your JD/team or be a Flash fan and stick to it. Just because JD is playing uninspired right now doesn't mean you shouldn't support him.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
January 17 2011 03:38 GMT
#98
Jaedong is just the anchor, I'm expecting Anytime to 4-0 KT with ez.
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
January 17 2011 03:41 GMT
#99
I just realized something.
If JD beats Flash decisively, then he will have pretty much solved what's been keeping him down and he could very well recover his judgment.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
January 17 2011 03:42 GMT
#100
On January 17 2011 12:41 Lightwip wrote:
I just realized something.
If JD beats Flash decisively, then he will have pretty much solved what's been keeping him down and he could very well recover his judgment.


Yesss

Strangely enough JD's ZvT is looking better than his ZvP nowadays
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
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