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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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mizU
United States12125 Posts
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Emon_
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CoWsGoesMoo
250 Posts
On December 18 2010 18:02 Kanil wrote: I was just thinking of game 5 when this came to mind... + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12lc7jVpfUc#t=28m12s Love you, BackHo. <3 what is this I don't even. | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Watched that game - one mistake cost terran the game. =/ Maybe he's not that bad, I think no. But really he's not Flash to come back from situation like this. =__= | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 18 2010 13:57 okum wrote: More like... JangBi had one 5-second timing window in the early game and then it was just a formality. More like...Jaedong built just the right amount of stuff to survive while droning, Jangbi's +1 corsairs were wasted money, and a Protoss who tries to fight a 4 gas Zerg with 2 gas and 1 mineral only is completely hopeless. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On December 19 2010 00:32 SubtleArt wrote: More like...Jaedong built just the right amount of stuff to survive while droning, Jangbi's +1 corsairs were wasted money, and a Protoss who tries to fight a 4 gas Zerg with 2 gas and 1 mineral only is completely hopeless. Pretty sure that JangBi was on 3 Gas vs 4 gas at one point, JangBi should've early expanded himself with that group of Zealot (headed to the 6 o clock of JD's, which didn't do that much dmg to it except for killing ONE Sunkens) to a third gas expansion so he could get Reavers in time when Jaedong goes Dark Swarm mode but NOOO, he got to use those Zealots uselessly. | ||
DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:31 DarkMatter_ wrote: BTW, Jaedong's vP winrate just hit 70%. Now he only needs to get his horrible ZvT up there and he's just as cool as Flash. ^__^ | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
It's not quite at the same level as his other matchups but he still has by far the best ZvT on the scene (and keep in mind that unlike other zergs, he's constantly been having Bo3s and Bo5s against the top TvZ players as opposed to getting easy wins against scrubs). In comparison the ZvTs of Zero, Soulkey, Calm and Action are 53%, 46%, 46% and 47% respectively. EDIT 2: Besides, I still think Jaedong's ZvT is his most impressive matchup, purely in terms of skill and multitasking. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 19 2010 00:38 Xiphos wrote: Pretty sure that JangBi was on 3 Gas vs 4 gas at one point, JangBi should've early expanded himself with that group of Zealot (headed to the 6 o clock of JD's, which didn't do that much dmg to it except for killing ONE Sunkens) to a third gas expansion so he could get Reavers in time when Jaedong goes Dark Swarm mode but NOOO, he got to use those Zealots uselessly. No jangbi was always on 2 gas for most of the game and the 3rd he got was a mineral only. He had a fourth base running but it was only for like 30 seconds because lings killed it so doesnt count | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:44 Holgerius wrote: Now he only needs to get his horrible ZvT up there and he's just as cool as Flash. ^__^ It's not horrible, its still over 60%...that's really good for a Zerg considering how hard ZvT is and how many bullshit pre-muta or pre-defiler timing pushes there are | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On December 19 2010 01:44 Holgerius wrote: Now he only needs to get his horrible ZvT up there and he's just as cool as Flash. ^__^ Jaedong will never get up there to Flash because, not the skill level involved, but the pure nature of ZvZ and ZvT. =) I saw a korean post about this a while back, I wish I could still find it Poor Jangbi, just when his games started picking back up, he had to face Jaedong in ZvP. | ||
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_Quasar_
Russian Federation4405 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:50 lastmotion wrote: Jaedong will never get up there to Flash because, not the skill level involved, but the pure nature of ZvZ and ZvT. =) roflmao Anyone was talking about such shit in PvZ, and then there came Bisu and just out-buildordered Savior.)))))) Same thing may happen in ZvT too, there's so much space for development still in this 12-year-old game, you know...  About ZvZ i dunno, Jaedong already proved that it's all about skill level, not only a coinflip, I think. Although some luck factor is involved. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:55 _Quasar_ wrote: roflmao Anyone was talking about such shit in PvZ, and then there came Bisu and just out-buildordered Savior.)))))) Same thing may happen in ZvT too, there's so much space for development still in this 12-year-old game, you know... About ZvZ i dunno, Jaedong already proved that it's all about skill level, not only a coinflip, I think. Although some luck factor is involved. You are seriously one of the most uninformed posters on teamliquid...please learn the game before commenting | ||
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lastmotion
368 Posts
On December 19 2010 05:55 _Quasar_ wrote: roflmao Anyone was talking about such shit in PvZ, and then there came Bisu and just out-buildordered Savior.)))))) Same thing may happen in ZvT too, there's so much space for development still in this 12-year-old game, you know... About ZvZ i dunno, Jaedong already proved that it's all about skill level, not only a coinflip, I think. Although some luck factor is involved. Bisu might have revolutionized PvZ but PvZ tilted back to Zerg's favor after Zerg players learned how to play against Protoss's FE Corsair Opening. In my opinion, ZvT is in a worse state than PvZ but feel free to prove me wrong. I don't even think it's right comparing PvZ to ZvT...at least PvZ has times during the game when Protoss is in strong favor (late late game with Archons + Reavers, and Mid-Game Goon + Zeal + Temp when Zergs need lurkers to hold it off) whereas for Zerg in ZvT, I think it's only the timing window of muta harrass and that's like a few minutes at best. | ||
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