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Ampleaf
Profile Joined November 2010
21 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 13:41:13
November 26 2010 13:40 GMT
#661
Heh, I missed Bisu vs Shine match. Was it again like this?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=105314

EDIT: I like (Z)Shine. Seriously.
"Twelve Gateways…. which is a standard transition after the double Observatory opening." - Day[9]
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
November 26 2010 13:41 GMT
#662
On November 26 2010 22:40 zerious wrote:
0/3 LB lol

Worth 0 points, so don't worry.
M!SHA
Profile Joined December 2009
44 Posts
November 26 2010 13:42 GMT
#663
haha i LB on shine


knew history will repeat xDD
ZerO Fighting@#!@
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
November 26 2010 13:42 GMT
#664
On November 26 2010 22:35 SkelA wrote:
LoL at all ppl with SKT tags that are crying "im done with BW boo hoo " .


Meh, they're just frustrated. BW > Bisu.

I'm disappointed that Bisu is out of the OSL, but mostly b/c I'd like to see somebody, anybody, challenge Flash and JD.

The worst thing about tonight's losses for me was the poor decision making by Bisu. He was bossing set 1 and then got lax with preserving his Sairs and protecting his Main (which would've been protected by the Sairs, tho preferably in combination with Archons). I've also got nfi why he thought he could counter Hydras (+ Lings) with Goons (and the odd Zealot) in set 2.

Disappointing as a Bisu fan, but life goes on.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1544 Posts
November 26 2010 13:43 GMT
#665
0-3 again on Liquibet, from know on I'm going to bet against the players I want to win, no Zero or Bisu in the OSL, more Flash vs Jaedong, can't see Sea, Kal, Stork or Fantasy beating either of them, I'm losing faith in BW....
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
kamikami
Profile Joined November 2010
France1057 Posts
November 26 2010 13:45 GMT
#666
On November 26 2010 22:43 moktira wrote:
0-3 again on Liquibet, from know on I'm going to bet against the players I want to win, no Zero or Bisu in the OSL, more Flash vs Jaedong, can't see Sea, Kal, Stork or Fantasy beating either of them, I'm losing faith in BW....


moktira please don't upload the Bisu vs Shine VODs, I don't want anyone to see them.
Khassar de Templari
Ikonn
Profile Joined October 2009
Netherlands1958 Posts
November 26 2010 13:45 GMT
#667
On November 26 2010 22:40 Ampleaf wrote:
Heh, I missed Bisu vs Shine match. Was it again like this?

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=105314

EDIT: I like (Z)Shine. Seriously.


Not really, the first game was mostly mutas and in the second game he made both hydras and lings. So he needed at least three functioning keys this series
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
November 26 2010 13:46 GMT
#668
On November 26 2010 22:32 Womwomwom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 22:30 disciple wrote:
Bisu failed because he is trying so hard to get into the zergs head, to design his own pvz strategy and plan. Thats just the wrong approach vs Shine - you dont think of timings and harass, you dont think where are the holes of Shine's defense. You just sit back, build up stuff, and survive when Shine decides to throw his shit on you - simple as that.


As much as this is probably filled with rage, this is exactly what you do against Shine.

Go for safe openings, take a disadvantage, then roll Shine in the late game because the guy has the worst late game macro of any zerg playing right now.


I was raging after game one, because I knew shine will just hydra burst in the next 2 games and hope for the best. Its all bisu's fault - instead of preparing for PvZ he should've prepared for Shine.
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
November 26 2010 13:46 GMT
#669
On November 26 2010 22:33 Craton wrote:
I'm thoroughly angry that so many bad players with zero chance of doing anything significant in this tournament managed to advance.


They only have zero chance , because they can't beat Flash or Jaedong . Against anyone else it's still anyone's game . Bisu has higher chances of beating Flash or Jaedong , but he is 50 - 50 % against players like Stork Free Kal and even other good zergs or terrans .
Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
November 26 2010 13:48 GMT
#670
On November 26 2010 22:46 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 22:33 Craton wrote:
I'm thoroughly angry that so many bad players with zero chance of doing anything significant in this tournament managed to advance.


They only have zero chance , because they can't beat Flash or Jaedong . Against anyone else it's still anyone's game . Bisu has higher chances of beating Flash or Jaedong , but he is 50 - 50 % against players like Stork Free Kal and even other good zergs or terrans .



at least stork is also kinda "good" against flash and jd... although flash has kinda dominated him lately...
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
November 26 2010 13:48 GMT
#671
What...? Never. What? No.

Bisu He will never make it in the OSL.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 26 2010 13:49 GMT
#672
On November 26 2010 22:48 Black Gun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 22:46 raga4ka wrote:
On November 26 2010 22:33 Craton wrote:
I'm thoroughly angry that so many bad players with zero chance of doing anything significant in this tournament managed to advance.


They only have zero chance , because they can't beat Flash or Jaedong . Against anyone else it's still anyone's game . Bisu has higher chances of beating Flash or Jaedong , but he is 50 - 50 % against players like Stork Free Kal and even other good zergs or terrans .



at least stork is also kinda "good" against flash and jd... although flash has kinda dominated him lately...

Recently Stork has expressed confidence in his ability to match Jaedong but not Flash.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1544 Posts
November 26 2010 13:49 GMT
#673
On November 26 2010 22:45 kamikami wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 22:43 moktira wrote:
0-3 again on Liquibet, from know on I'm going to bet against the players I want to win, no Zero or Bisu in the OSL, more Flash vs Jaedong, can't see Sea, Kal, Stork or Fantasy beating either of them, I'm losing faith in BW....


moktira please don't upload the Bisu vs Shine VODs, I don't want anyone to see them.

I'll upload it in an hour or so anyway so just avoid my channel for a while....
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9070 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-26 13:51:07
November 26 2010 13:50 GMT
#674
Good thing this isnt SC2. Just imagine the sheer quantity of posts and blogs about zvp being imba and zerg being OP
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
pinkranger15
Profile Joined June 2010
Philippines1597 Posts
November 26 2010 13:52 GMT
#675
bisu just broke my heart </3
yoyo!
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
November 26 2010 13:52 GMT
#676
On November 26 2010 22:42 PineappleLumpsToss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2010 22:35 SkelA wrote:
LoL at all ppl with SKT tags that are crying "im done with BW boo hoo " .


Meh, they're just frustrated. BW > Bisu.

I'm disappointed that Bisu is out of the OSL, but mostly b/c I'd like to see somebody, anybody, challenge Flash and JD.

The worst thing about tonight's losses for me was the poor decision making by Bisu. He was bossing set 1 and then got lax with preserving his Sairs and protecting his Main (which would've been protected by the Sairs, tho preferably in combination with Archons). I've also got nfi why he thought he could counter Hydras (+ Lings) with Goons (and the odd Zealot) in set 2.

Disappointing as a Bisu fan, but life goes on.


Yeah, the better player in those games won, pretty disappointed at the people who are threatening to leave BW because Bisu lost. I mean look at it this way, if he had played like this he would have gotten stomped by Jaedong anyway.

I agree that it's tragic that Zero and Bisu are out of Ro16 but there's still Stork and free... and afrostyle ><, shit happens in tournaments, I was pretty sad when Flash > JD this year too.

But there's no doubt though, tonight's games were pretty entertaining. Zero/Hogil draw blew my mind.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
fbchicken
Profile Joined December 2008
Vietnam8 Posts
November 26 2010 13:53 GMT
#677
On November 26 2010 22:26 2Pacalypse- wrote:
OP you cursed Bisu with your predictions lol!

OP you remind me of konadora's predictions lol
oh wait, i'm really sad. Bisu T_T
ZBiR
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
Poland1092 Posts
November 26 2010 13:55 GMT
#678
Hydra, Hogil and Shine.
Just awesome.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 26 2010 13:58 GMT
#679
The term "curbstomp" gets tossed around a lot these days.

Seriously, I think I'm going to be sick. Hope you fail hard in Ro16 Shine!!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
November 26 2010 14:01 GMT
#680
Although it's kinda disappointing as a Protoss/SKT/Bisu fan, I didn't really feel like Bisu was truly "back" yet. Some of his wins during proleague were really shaky. As long as he keeps going and doesn't let a few losses get to him he should be fine, though.


Wtb a Protoss winning a starleague. I don't care if it's fucking Horang2 at this point. Somebody just get that shit done.
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