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soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
November 06 2010 18:46 GMT
#981
funny game, kind of epic though :D
congrats to storks and his team
ace hwaiting!!
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 06 2010 18:54 GMT
#982
On November 07 2010 02:53 BrownBear wrote:
Yo. What's up with this TurN dude? He's starting to look like a contender to replace Jangbi as the team's second-best player.


2 years from now, when both JangBi and Stork are going to ACE, TurN and BravE will be the one holding on the Khan's fort.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
November 06 2010 18:57 GMT
#983
On November 07 2010 03:27 Slardarxt wrote:
ugghhhh... God dammit va jay jaedong. Got home just in time to see OZ pull through to the ace with my friend, called for the epic JD Vs Stork and instead we got a somewhat lame game. Well executed by Stork at least.

Somewhat lame? I was on the edge of my goddamn seat. I mean at first I was like "( `~`)" but then I was like "( ._.)".
High five :---)
disciple
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
9071 Posts
November 06 2010 19:37 GMT
#984
On November 07 2010 03:54 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 02:53 BrownBear wrote:
Yo. What's up with this TurN dude? He's starting to look like a contender to replace Jangbi as the team's second-best player.


2 years from now, when both JangBi and Stork are going to ACE, TurN and BravE will be the one holding on the Khan's fort.


I'm sure Juni will be on a rampage by the 20th anniversary of SCBW too
Administrator"I'm a big deal." - ixmike88
bluetrolls
Profile Joined October 2009
United States139 Posts
November 06 2010 19:41 GMT
#985
go stork!!!
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 19:47:24
November 06 2010 19:42 GMT
#986
I think Stork build 3 gates infront of Jaedong's main is a key to this strategy,

It's obvious that Jaedong will pull drones to stop proxy 3-gates cause lings can't fight straight up with mass zealots, so Stork just let his lots do the talking.

Damn it, Byung Goo is so sexy!!!!

Can we call this a new evolution in PvZ haha
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
November 06 2010 21:07 GMT
#987
--- Nuked ---
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
November 06 2010 21:29 GMT
#988
Stork lost to backho not because the reaver did not get any probe kills, but the shuttle and subsequently the reaver died -_- Stork could've pushed into nat with reaver >>
Stuck.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 06 2010 22:35 GMT
#989
On November 06 2010 16:06 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 15:59 _Quasar_ wrote:
why, why, why oh shit why you didn't go standard overpool Jaedong? T_T

Then would be no need to this drone-picking gates and it would SAVE ur economy instead of ruining it T_T

12 hatch is such a bad build vs P... T_T


overpool is terrible against a protoss who goes forge Fe on a large map like this
seriously, if the first lings do no damage then they have an overwhelming advantage and can dictate the matchup

the timing @ which the overlord scouts the opponent should be after the zerglings are hatched anyhow, so i think it is fairly unapplicable on this map in most situations

The bigger reason why Jaedong 12hatched is because the map allows Protoss to go 1gate expo. 1gate expo >>>>>>> pool first expand. The advantage the Protoss gets from 1gate expo against pool expo is far more acute than forge -> nexus -> cannons because their tech is going to be so absurdly fast.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 07 2010 00:09 GMT
#990
On November 07 2010 07:35 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 16:06 Navi wrote:
On November 06 2010 15:59 _Quasar_ wrote:
why, why, why oh shit why you didn't go standard overpool Jaedong? T_T

Then would be no need to this drone-picking gates and it would SAVE ur economy instead of ruining it T_T

12 hatch is such a bad build vs P... T_T


overpool is terrible against a protoss who goes forge Fe on a large map like this
seriously, if the first lings do no damage then they have an overwhelming advantage and can dictate the matchup

the timing @ which the overlord scouts the opponent should be after the zerglings are hatched anyhow, so i think it is fairly unapplicable on this map in most situations

The bigger reason why Jaedong 12hatched is because the map allows Protoss to go 1gate expo. 1gate expo >>>>>>> pool first expand. The advantage the Protoss gets from 1gate expo against pool expo is far more acute than forge -> nexus -> cannons because their tech is going to be so absurdly fast.


Well even if Jaedong went overpool, Stork still would've had tricks up his sleeves. ONLY after Stork saw that Jaedong is going for 12 Hatch, he put down the pylon and the proxies. If Stork scouted Jaedong doing something else (ex. if JD 9 pooled, Stork would've has Zealots to defend agains the Zergling due to his Gateway first), he could've totally changed his plan.

Fanboy time: Stork you sneaky-ass bastard! That game made me so happy.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
November 07 2010 06:42 GMT
#991
Jaedong, T_T gg
You can't fight the feeling.
rigelq
Profile Joined May 2010
United States230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 18:02:33
November 07 2010 18:02 GMT
#992
(P)Stork vs Jaedong- the epicness continues. Honestly I think that is my favorite Rivalry. Who cares about (Z)Jaedong vs (T)Flash- gimme a (P)Stork vs (Z)Jaedong anyday!
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 07 2010 18:13 GMT
#993
Doesn't drone drill completely destroy any 1gate openings?

I remember Luxury raping Bisu and another big protoss in a row.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
November 07 2010 18:28 GMT
#994
On November 08 2010 03:13 SuperArc wrote:
Doesn't drone drill completely destroy any 1gate openings?

I remember Luxury raping Bisu and another big protoss in a row.


that will be suicide if JD drone drilled through that ramp. Stork would've pull all his probes with Zealots. If JD can't succeed in passing through that ramp, he is done. And also JD also lose tons of Drones in the beginning due to the proxies so his drone count was like REALLY low.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
November 07 2010 19:22 GMT
#995
On November 08 2010 03:28 Xiphos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 03:13 SuperArc wrote:
Doesn't drone drill completely destroy any 1gate openings?

I remember Luxury raping Bisu and another big protoss in a row.


that will be suicide if JD drone drilled through that ramp. Stork would've pull all his probes with Zealots. If JD can't succeed in passing through that ramp, he is done. And also JD also lose tons of Drones in the beginning due to the proxies so his drone count was like REALLY low.


Of course drone drills are useless if scouted. Luxury wasnt scouted so thats why it succeeded.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Slardar
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada7596 Posts
November 07 2010 20:19 GMT
#996
On November 07 2010 03:57 McDonalds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 03:27 Slardarxt wrote:
ugghhhh... God dammit va jay jaedong. Got home just in time to see OZ pull through to the ace with my friend, called for the epic JD Vs Stork and instead we got a somewhat lame game. Well executed by Stork at least.

Somewhat lame? I was on the edge of my goddamn seat. I mean at first I was like "( `~`)" but then I was like "( ._.)".


Hehe I'm just biased I guess. Huge fan of those long epic macro games ^^. After Stork's wall-in fails I guess he had enough of that and put down 3 gates for revenge!
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
November 07 2010 21:15 GMT
#997
I am so happy when Stork wins.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
November 07 2010 22:38 GMT
#998
Variety in gameplay.

Wha? HOW'S THAT POSSIBLE?!!

GO STORK! RIP THEM A NEW ONE!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 23:51:24
November 07 2010 23:42 GMT
#999
On November 08 2010 04:22 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2010 03:28 Xiphos wrote:
On November 08 2010 03:13 SuperArc wrote:
Doesn't drone drill completely destroy any 1gate openings?

I remember Luxury raping Bisu and another big protoss in a row.


that will be suicide if JD drone drilled through that ramp. Stork would've pull all his probes with Zealots. If JD can't succeed in passing through that ramp, he is done. And also JD also lose tons of Drones in the beginning due to the proxies so his drone count was like REALLY low.


Of course drone drills are useless if scouted. Luxury wasnt scouted so thats why it succeeded.


Yeah and that's the reason Luxury did so randomly against protoss was because of his love for doing crappy all ins that relied on his opponent choosing certain builds, scouting incorrectly, reacting poorly, etc.

Yes in hindsight Jaedong could have done that if he really wanted to but its all hindsight. Jaedong already picked a fairly greedy build with a late pool, any drone drill or bust was to be expected since Stork had a scouting probe running around. Also a response all in after the proxy gates probably wouldn't have worked since Stork dragged a crapload of probes to defend his ramp in preparation for such an all in (that never really came).
stork4ever
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1036 Posts
November 07 2010 23:44 GMT
#1000
stork is such a tease.... hope he returns to glory with bisu!
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