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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
November 06 2010 09:14 GMT
#941
I just watched this and I don't get why people thought Stork was behind after that opening. It didn't fail at all ... he microed competently and with the free back expo base he was in great shape. The zeal sneaking in afterward sealed the deal, obviously.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 06 2010 09:17 GMT
#942
On November 06 2010 18:14 darktreb wrote:
I just watched this and I don't get why people thought Stork was behind after that opening. It didn't fail at all ... he microed competently and with the free back expo base he was in great shape. The zeal sneaking in afterward sealed the deal, obviously.

I think most people in their anticipation for an epic macro game missed the fact that instead of forge fe stork went for 10 gate.
CoWsGoesMoo
Profile Joined June 2010
250 Posts
November 06 2010 09:18 GMT
#943
JD is gonna 5pool Stork next time I see it. ^^
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
November 06 2010 09:19 GMT
#944
zergs play over pool always, and they stand normally against gate-first...

why would p always go fe now if gate-first build is advantageous vs the standard zerg build nowadays (and standard is overpool).

And then - why not go 12pool? I offers many drones, and hatch can be placed almost as fast as in overpool case due to drone count.

countering that rush with 12 hatch seems impossible - it's auto lose. You NEED zerglings or you just lose in economy even more.

If you see no zealot attack, you double expand as always - you're not behind.

btw - the lurker egg on this map - what parameter of "size" does it have?
i mean, what damage it would take from let's say hydralisks? o.o full or 1/2 or 3/4.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
November 06 2010 09:20 GMT
#945
i mean attempts of zerg double denying expos - 4th (back-backyard) - and the ordinary natural, ahead of main.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
November 06 2010 09:38 GMT
#946
It's not easy being an Oz fan. ㅜ ㅜ
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
November 06 2010 09:40 GMT
#947
On November 06 2010 18:06 YESSSS123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 16:18 blade55555 wrote:
On November 06 2010 16:02 ShadeR wrote:

Jaedong fanboys: 10 GATE?!?!?!? THAT CHEESY POHTOSS


lol if you don't say that proxy 3 gate that Stork did against Jaedong wasn't cheese I have no idea what is then.


your fanboy tears; they taste so goooood!!!


Did you make this account just to troll or what?
_Quasar_
Profile Joined October 2010
Russian Federation4405 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 10:57:00
November 06 2010 10:56 GMT
#948
Oz normal team! Remember Samsung losing in same fashion to MBC (although there was COACH's fail, not player's imho T_T).

I see Oz as a pretty deep and complete command - not JaedongOz in any way.
But:

- Killer obviously needs to solve his problems with psychology. His ingame concentration is sometimes close to zero.
- Perfectman doesn't need to be hyped as much, and he'll just calmly grow into a very very decent player.
- and Jaedong - let's not think of him as of a one who must always only win. He's very very good, outstanding player, probably the most loved and appreciated among the fans, for the innovative play style and always being on the edge of possible. But sometimes too much noise hurts. Even top players can lose sometimes.
For the Swarm!!! Jaedong & Neo_G.Soulkey fan.
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
November 06 2010 11:01 GMT
#949
anyone know where i can find a vod of this?
Writer
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 06 2010 11:09 GMT
#950
On November 06 2010 17:20 radialis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 16:17 ShadeR wrote:
On November 06 2010 16:07 letian wrote:
On November 06 2010 15:57 ShadeR wrote:
To everybody claiming stork cheesed please go jump.

Stork went 10 GATE and scouted correctly to find that Jaedong 12 HATCHed.
How the shit do you want Stork to react!


that was the most effective strategy, cheese is also ok, to make it clear - my point is if you want to win a strong player u must be unpredicltible, "How the shit do you want Stork to react!" - well 3 proxy gates was the least expected, don't u think)???

Those gates were a reaction to Jaedong's build.
We can argue all day long about what is cheese and what isn't, but what makes the difference for me is whether or not said play was predetermined (double proxy gates at 9/9 in the middle of the map) or a reaction to opposing players greedy build (bunker rush).

Nobody called Jaedong cheesy when he took advantage of Stork skimping on cannons.

lol true... i remember when he did two 4 pools in a row, people were like "OMG SO FUCKING BALLER" and "JAEDONG TOO MANLY FOR THIS GAME FUCK YEAH"

Because its Jaedong, silly , not some b-team scrub)
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
November 06 2010 11:12 GMT
#951
On November 06 2010 20:01 Kiante wrote:
anyone know where i can find a vod of this?

i think vods will be up in a day or two, or you can look for them here http://www.wfbrood.com/xingji/hanguoxingji/xingji_57844.html when they will be up.
moktira *
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Ireland1543 Posts
November 06 2010 11:17 GMT
#952
On November 06 2010 20:01 Kiante wrote:
anyone know where i can find a vod of this?

Check my channel or the Small VOD Thread in about two hours.

The first two sets are already up: http://www.youtube.com/user/moktira?feature=mhsn#g/c/D838A42BF5962B67
If in doubt, differentiate and set equal to zero
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 06 2010 11:32 GMT
#953
Haven't seen the game yet, but the LR made me think of that game

GG Stork !
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
November 06 2010 12:27 GMT
#954
HOW THE FUCK COULD I HAVE MISSED THIS! I FELL ASLEEP! OMG OMG DAMN YOU NEW VEGAS!
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 12:31:29
November 06 2010 12:31 GMT
#955
When perfectman loses, Oz loses =)
aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-06 12:37:14
November 06 2010 12:37 GMT
#956
As for some inane reason I'm awake right now, VODs will be on nevake as soon as YT is done processing...

Thanks moktira as ever for picking up my slack
YESSSS123
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada12 Posts
November 06 2010 12:57 GMT
#957
i got a warning for hating on jaedong fanboys, kinda GAY!!!!!!!!!!!
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
November 06 2010 13:05 GMT
#958
On November 06 2010 20:17 moktira wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2010 20:01 Kiante wrote:
anyone know where i can find a vod of this?

Check my channel or the Small VOD Thread in about two hours.

The first two sets are already up: http://www.youtube.com/user/moktira?feature=mhsn#g/c/D838A42BF5962B67

On November 06 2010 21:37 aers wrote:
As for some inane reason I'm awake right now, VODs will be on nevake as soon as YT is done processing...

Thanks moktira as ever for picking up my slack

Thanks moktira and aers for the hard work =]
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
November 06 2010 13:07 GMT
#959
Thanks Aers for uploading the VODs to the tracker!

That Stork vs. Jaedong game was balls to the wall great. Proxy 3-gate? Stork is redefining the meaning of viable PvZ. It also brings up the serious question how much Stork cares about things nowadays. Perhaps he's considering doing something else with his life, like a certain zerg ace did recently.
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
November 06 2010 13:14 GMT
#960
JD, my man...did you watch the Backho game? Stork was in no mood for greediness
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
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