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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On October 28 2010 04:37 dras wrote: he looked like he was about to cry after his loss =( Alot of players do. Although I bet Jaedong knows just how important winning for his team is, considering he is the only pillar holding them up, must suck for him  . | ||
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dras
Kazakhstan376 Posts
On October 28 2010 05:43 Microlisk wrote: Alot of players do. Although I bet Jaedong knows just how important winning for his team is, considering he is the only pillar holding them up, must suck for him .why is his team so bad, and why doesn't he play for a good team? im new to the BW scene so my apologies for the dumb question. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
On October 28 2010 06:08 dras wrote: why is his team so bad, and why doesn't he play for a good team? im new to the BW scene so my apologies for the dumb question. Jaedong has a very strong attachement to OZ (might be less after their previous coach left), it would take a lot for Jaedong to leave them. | ||
Spazer
Canada8031 Posts
On October 28 2010 06:08 dras wrote: why is his team so bad, and why doesn't he play for a good team? im new to the BW scene so my apologies for the dumb question. He was a free agent at one point, but that didn't really work out and he ended up going back to Oz in the end. | ||
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bearbuddy
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Trap
United States395 Posts
On October 28 2010 06:08 dras wrote: why is his team so bad, and why doesn't he play for a good team? im new to the BW scene so my apologies for the dumb question. Buying Jaedong would be really expensive for another team given the free agency rules. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On October 28 2010 06:08 dras wrote: why is his team so bad, and why doesn't he play for a good team? im new to the BW scene so my apologies for the dumb question. They were really good at one point, but then Anytime left for the military (and apparently had an argument with the coach) and fOrGG started slumping and moved to KT, leaving only Jaedong. Then nobody else really stepped up to the plate. Now he's (probably) too attached to Oz to ever leave and too expensive for any other team to pick up | ||
Harem
United States11392 Posts
On October 28 2010 07:20 Ikonn wrote: They were really good at one point, but then Anytime left for the military (and apparently had an argument with the coach) I swear, no one has actually ever read the interview and just goes off of hear-say. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82722 Please re-read it before saying such things again in the future. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On October 28 2010 07:26 Harem wrote: I swear, no one has actually ever read the interview and just goes off of hear-say. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=82722 Please re-read it before saying such things again in the future. yeah I read that before and completely forgot about it for some reason. Apologies. | ||
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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rel4pse
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Harem
United States11392 Posts
I'd not keep it up if I were you. | ||
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
On October 28 2010 09:04 rel4pse wrote: call me a rabid jaedong fan, call me bitter, but light pisses me off to no end. his ONLY good match up is TvZ. i'm not calling imba or anything but you have to face the fact that T always has some innate advantage over Z (like P has over T). i have little respect for T's like forgg or sea who are only good at the one matchup their race has an advantage at (and for that same reason <3 bisu). sick of people saying "wahhh good play by light" because jaedong is unarguably the better player. light hasn't won CRAP and he gets lucky with jaedong and everyone says how good he is. yes TvZ slightly favors terran, but that doesn't take away from Light's S-Class TvZ skills. Its probably only a step below Flash atm. | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On October 28 2010 09:40 dani_caliKorea wrote: yes TvZ slightly favors terran, but that doesn't take away from Light's S-Class TvZ skills. Its probably only a step below Flash atm. He is saying that Light is only a one matchup player that is only good at the "imbalanced" matchups AKA PvT, TvZ and ZvP that one race have an advantage over another (a slight one I might add). So that's why he doesn't like him, he didn't say that Light isn't godly at the matchup only that he is bad at other matchups. | ||
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On October 28 2010 09:04 rel4pse wrote: call me a rabid jaedong fan, call me bitter, but light pisses me off to no end. his ONLY good match up is TvZ. i'm not calling imba or anything but you have to face the fact that T always has some innate advantage over Z (like P has over T). i have little respect for T's like forgg or sea who are only good at the one matchup their race has an advantage at (and for that same reason <3 bisu). sick of people saying "wahhh good play by light" because jaedong is unarguably the better player. light hasn't won CRAP and he gets lucky with jaedong and everyone says how good he is. first of all, Sea is really good at all 3 matchups. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about in that regard. (I actually think his TvP is looking a lot stronger than his TvZ right now.) It's ironic that you mentioned Bisu because Bisu is pretty much a one trick pony just like Light is at this point, too. In case you haven't noticed, Bisu's PvT and PvP suck right now. Just because the one he's good at is what you perceive as "hard" doesn't make it somehow better. And Light didn't get "lucky" with Jaedong, he outplayed him, plain and simple. Watch the game. At every point, Light was outmicroing and outthinking Jaedong. In their Bo5 in the MSL, the 2 games that Light won were long macro games, while the 3 games Jaedong won were 2 ling all-ins and one timing attack. Yeah, his TvP is kind of sad and his TvT is mediocre, but that doesn't change the fact that Light's TvZ is fucking beautiful. You can call TvZ the "easy" matchup, but the fact is Light excels at TvZ in a way that no one else but Flash does. And, unlike Flash, Light excels at late game, aggressive, post-ultra TvZ which is really, really fucking difficult (whereas Flash always chooses to turtle up with tanks and mines at that point). Just because Light's other matchups aren't good doesn't mean that his TvZ somehow isn't. | ||
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dras
Kazakhstan376 Posts
On October 28 2010 07:20 Ikonn wrote: They were really good at one point, but then Anytime left for the military (and apparently had an argument with the coach) and fOrGG started slumping and moved to KT, leaving only Jaedong. Then nobody else really stepped up to the plate. Now he's (probably) too attached to Oz to ever leave and too expensive for any other team to pick up thanks for all the responses  one last fail question and I promise I'll stop (or get banned), are these team games precursors to the OSL and MSL games, which are more individually focused? Whats the main function of these team games? | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Obviously, Jaedong prefers ending the game early with Ling micro, where Light prefers long macro games. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On October 28 2010 09:04 rel4pse wrote: call me a rabid jaedong fan, call me bitter, but light pisses me off to no end. his ONLY good match up is TvZ. i'm not calling imba or anything but you have to face the fact that T always has some innate advantage over Z (like P has over T). i have little respect for T's like forgg or sea who are only good at the one matchup their race has an advantage at (and for that same reason <3 bisu). sick of people saying "wahhh good play by light" because jaedong is unarguably the better player. light hasn't won CRAP and he gets lucky with jaedong and everyone says how good he is. Light's TvZ is S-class and his TvT is decent (I would hardly call a 53% winrate bad). And Sea is well-rounded in all match-ups. Light didn't just get "lucky" with Jaedong. Everyone says he's good for a reason. So if a player who hasn't won a starleague beats Jaedong, it means he just got "lucky" and doesn't any deserve credit?? And quite frankly, regardless of any imbalance in ZvT, Jaedong's decision making in ZvT over the last few months has not been good. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On October 28 2010 11:29 dras wrote: thanks for all the responses one last fail question and I promise I'll stop (or get banned), are these team games precursors to the OSL and MSL games, which are more individually focused? Whats the main function of these team games? There are three official leagues: Proleague, OSL, MSL. They have no further relation. Proleague lasts all year while there are three OSL's and MSL's every year. | ||
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