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On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough.
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On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough.
stork is + Show Spoiler +
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On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough.
He seriously needs to get over his "BAWWWW MAP IMBA" complex though. I've always considered Bisu to be the most mechanically sound player in all of BW, it's just that his mindset is so whack.
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On September 11 2010 22:01 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough. stork is + Show Spoiler +Protoss king of silver, overshadowed by Bisu, Jaedong, and Flash Not good enough to do it, sorry.
On September 11 2010 22:02 Metallingus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough. He seriously needs to get over his "BAWWWW MAP IMBA" complex though. I've always considered Bisu to be the most mechanically sound player in all of BW, it's just that his mindset is so whack. While maps are indeed the worst for protoss, he really does need to. It doesn't help him even if it's true.
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so. what now? is there a bonjwa diploma or something?
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On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough.
i used to dislike bisu when he was dominating, cause he seemed to never lose
but now i really hope he comes back
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daaamn couldn't wake up earlier
T_T... waiting for vods dont care the results if the games were good
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Yall need to read that thread about how Bisu isn't back, and how he'll never be at the top. He still hasn't beaten a top Terran in a year
Get off bisu's D because this thread is about the OSL players, not aobut somebody who's fallen off the individual league map.
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On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough. I'd like to see Bisu return to his former glory as well, but I think it'll be + Show Spoiler +
or + Show Spoiler +
P.S. + Show Spoiler +
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On September 11 2010 21:57 ZlaSHeR wrote: Nobody can argue that JD's practice partners were worse lol....JD has hiya who is a top 10 terran, probably top 5. Flash has Hoejja, a top 30 zerg at best
Flash practiced with people like effort, zero during the msls. And who did jaedong practice with? Practice partners
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Personally I believe more in one of those potentially really good players that hasn't really matured yet, like stats or action, maybe snow. Or more likely someone I don't even know the name of =p
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On September 11 2010 22:00 Uraeus wrote: It is so sad the thread for such an awesome final is packed with retards making stupid posts about imbalance, or insulting progamers, and god knows what else. This series had all you could hope for : massive hype,awesome mind games, epic micro battles, extremely tense moments, brilliant decision making... Flash won fair and square (this comes from a JD fan), there is no need for BM and imba whining here. We need more banlings. Or the staff should give Rekrul his ban-hammer back. Or the mods should start another purge. But please do something, because an awful load of terrible posters is polluting the forums these days.
I completely agree with this post.
We (staff) will reread this thread later and warn/ban all of those who tried to derail this thread. And there's been way too many of them.
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holy cow. flash again. poor jaedong. he is never gonna be the same after so many loses to flash =(
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On September 11 2010 22:07 Pvvned wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote: He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~ And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true. This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50. That's not the sign of an imbalanced game. As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~ Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe it's time. Legend of the fall+Bisu. Nuff said. it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler + Bisu or Bisu. + Show Spoiler + Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough. I'd like to see Bisu return to his former glory as well, but I think it'll be + Show Spoiler +or + Show Spoiler +P.S. + Show Spoiler + Snow is definitely a maybe, he seems to have the potential but not the results to back it up. Assuming he decided to stop playing stupid, Bisu is still the best protoss right now despite everything. That's like Savior/Midas still being the best.
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On September 11 2010 22:07 Invictus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 21:57 ZlaSHeR wrote: Nobody can argue that JD's practice partners were worse lol....JD has hiya who is a top 10 terran, probably top 5. Flash has Hoejja, a top 30 zerg at best Flash practiced with people like effort, zero during the msls. And who did jaedong practice with? Practice partners
i honestly dont think anyone on tl is anywhere close to having the knowledge base required to make judgments over who had a practice partner advantage seeing as they may not reveal all practice partners and we have no idea how well certain players perform in house or what sort of talents they offer in terms of preparation
it's just grasping at straws to even bring it up
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i'm still pumped from this finals, this was one of the best finals i watched live. The adrenaline is still up, lol
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It's times like these I like that Jaedong is on Oz. Since Oz really needs him to perform, I think PL keeps Jaedong's heart in the game. Hopefully, Jaedong Oz keeps Jaedong fighting for that top spot, and hopefully Oz's new coach can help Jaedong break the mental wall that's probably forming after losing to Flash so much.
Heart and soul remain with Jaedong, but the mind acknowledges Flash as the 5th Bonjwa, and I loved the way Flash played today, I truly did. I wouldn't say this was an "epic" series but I will say it was fun.
Gonna go to bed now -.- damn Korea being so far away from the States, makin me stay up all night -.-
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interview up anytime soon?
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On September 11 2010 21:55 Metallingus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2010 21:49 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:On September 11 2010 21:27 Metallingus wrote:On September 11 2010 21:26 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: Dammit, this is not what I wanted to see when I woke up this morning....
Congrats to Flash.
So sad for Jaedong, though. He really needs to take a Bo5 at some point against Flash next season, or else I think the rivalry is basically over.
Can someone explain why JD lost in the 4th game? Flash pulled off a 5-rax which, while JD survived, damaged JD's econ enough for Flash to expand without worry and play his standard game. Gist of it, JD attempted to Doom Drop, Flash deflected, denied JD's expansions and went on to win. Ah, so that's what happened. Will try to watch the game later, though it'll destroy my fangirl heart. I really hope JD doesn't lose his confidence completely. Losing 3 straight finals to the same guy can't be good for him at all. He needs to rediscover whatever he had when he used to play against Flash before the past 2 seasons. His ZvFlash seems to lack something these days, but I'm not sure what. Please tell me there will be OSL and MSL next season. Jaedong needs to get his revenge. Kinda doubt it, if you're thinking that JD will pull off a Savior (post-Bisu), he probably won't - Savior always did give that vibe that he was sick of the game after that. JD'll probably be as hungry, if not more, than before. If they could get a huge sponsor like KA and stage the finals in Shanghai, I don't see why there won't be SLs next season 
It'll be hard to tell whether JD will have that vibe until after the next season starts. It'll take exceptional mental strength for him to recover from this. From what I read browsing through the thread, JD seems like he expects to lose against Flash these days, so he keeps using wacky strategies or something? I hope this doesn't become like the mental block Kal had against JD for the longest time. That would be really bad.
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