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moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 13:37:18
September 11 2010 13:19 GMT
#3641
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I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
September 11 2010 13:20 GMT
#3642
Fuck Jaedong. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. really hoping you would pull through man
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
September 11 2010 13:23 GMT
#3643
On September 11 2010 22:20 SubtleArt wrote:
Fuck Jaedong. Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck. really hoping you would pull through man


I share your pain.
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
September 11 2010 13:23 GMT
#3644
On September 11 2010 22:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On September 11 2010 22:07 Invictus wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:57 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Nobody can argue that JD's practice partners were worse lol....JD has hiya who is a top 10 terran, probably top 5. Flash has Hoejja, a top 30 zerg at best


Flash practiced with people like effort, zero during the msls. And who did jaedong practice with? Practice partners


i honestly dont think anyone on tl is anywhere close to having the knowledge base required to make judgments over who had a practice partner advantage seeing as they may not reveal all practice partners and we have no idea how well certain players perform in house or what sort of talents they offer in terms of preparation

it's just grasping at straws to even bring it up

Guess that is true. I think im most probably pissed because this is the 3rd consecutive jd lost to flash, but maybe that would bring new life to jaedong as he now has the goal of catching up to flash.

On a fun note: no 14ccs and no mech today :O
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
September 11 2010 13:25 GMT
#3645
I'll be cheering for JD from now on. Seeing him lose 3 consecutive finals to Flash is really bad. Don't give up and keep trying JD!
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
crazeh
Profile Joined August 2010
91 Posts
September 11 2010 13:26 GMT
#3646
On September 11 2010 22:23 Invictus wrote:
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On September 11 2010 22:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 11 2010 22:07 Invictus wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:57 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Nobody can argue that JD's practice partners were worse lol....JD has hiya who is a top 10 terran, probably top 5. Flash has Hoejja, a top 30 zerg at best


Flash practiced with people like effort, zero during the msls. And who did jaedong practice with? Practice partners


i honestly dont think anyone on tl is anywhere close to having the knowledge base required to make judgments over who had a practice partner advantage seeing as they may not reveal all practice partners and we have no idea how well certain players perform in house or what sort of talents they offer in terms of preparation

it's just grasping at straws to even bring it up

Guess that is true. I think im most probably pissed because this is the 3rd consecutive jd lost to flash, but maybe that would bring new life to jaedong as he now has the goal of catching up to flash.

On a fun note: no 14ccs and no mech today :O


He had that goal after going 3-0 two MSLs ago...he must be devastated now
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 11 2010 13:27 GMT
#3647
Hmm, I wonder how successful having this in China will turn out to be.
Legend of the fall shall save us.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3017 Posts
September 11 2010 13:29 GMT
#3648
Personally I'm actually kind of excited for the wave of anti-Terran (anti-Flash) maps that will inevitably be a part of the next leagues (assuming they happen...), a la what they did for Savior in his OSL.

Really tough maps have always brought out the best in Flash.
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
September 11 2010 13:29 GMT
#3649
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Flash: "We really should form our own team, you know?"
JD: "Hmmm."
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
Pvvned
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States405 Posts
September 11 2010 13:29 GMT
#3650
On September 11 2010 22:19 moopie wrote:
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That woman is tall lol
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Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 11 2010 13:30 GMT
#3651
Well, at least Jaedong won WCG!

jkjk Go Flash! What a run!
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
September 11 2010 13:34 GMT
#3652
Just won WCG Korea, he still would have to win grand finals for it to matter
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 11 2010 13:34 GMT
#3653
On September 11 2010 22:02 Metallingus wrote:
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On September 11 2010 22:01 Lightwip wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:58 moopie wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:55 Lightwip wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:54 Pvvned wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:53 KlaCkoN wrote:
He truly is the ultimate weapon isn't he ~~
And since when did zerg players become whining losers? I want to say it's because of star2 that crying "imbalance" is suddenly accepted but I'm not sure if it's true.
This final was not about terran versus zerg, it was about flash versus jaedong. _Any_ other terran today on these maps and jaedong is the overwhelming favourite and even when he is up against the best player ever the pre game predictions are ~50/50.
That's not the sign of an imbalanced game.
As long as the leagues are allowed to keep running flash too will eventually meet an advesary he cannot overcome, it's the cycle of brood war ~~

Protoss bonjwa incoming, yes? I believe

it's time.

Legend of the fall+Bisu.
Nuff said.


it'll be Bisu or + Show Spoiler +
Bisu

Bisu or Bisu.
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or Bisu

Fixed all of your posts. No one else is good enough.


He seriously needs to get over his "BAWWWW MAP IMBA" complex though. I've always considered Bisu to be the most mechanically sound player in all of BW, it's just that his mindset is so whack.

You really think a few lines in some interviews allow you to judge someone's mindset? Or that if they don't publicly say something, they don't think it?

I guarantee every player has bitched about maps that are bad (and Tears of the Moon was pretty bad), what varies is how public it is. And frankly, given that pros have their careers determined by the maps to quite a degree, I'd say they've the right to.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
September 11 2010 13:42 GMT
#3654
On September 11 2010 22:30 Takkara wrote:
Well, at least Jaedong won WCG!

jkjk Go Flash! What a run!

WCG Finals incoming! Revenge time Jaedong!
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
andrinho
Profile Joined July 2010
United States90 Posts
September 11 2010 13:44 GMT
#3655
Where are the vods? Can't believe with all the people streaming it there is not yet a single vod up

User was temp banned for this post.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
September 11 2010 13:45 GMT
#3656
On September 11 2010 22:29 darktreb wrote:
Personally I'm actually kind of excited for the wave of anti-Terran (anti-Flash) maps that will inevitably be a part of the next leagues (assuming they happen...), a la what they did for Savior in his OSL.

Really tough maps have always brought out the best in Flash.

Yes please :D

Nothing wrong with streaks of Power Overwhelming, but it's always most rewarding when your player wins against the odds.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
Uraeus
Profile Joined February 2008
France1378 Posts
September 11 2010 13:46 GMT
#3657
On September 11 2010 22:18 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
From what I read browsing through the thread, JD seems like he expects to lose against Flash these days, so he keeps using wacky strategies or something?


I don't think JD cheesing twice or skipping mutas in game 4 has anything to do with him expecting to lose against Flash. True, he changes his play when facing Flash. But Flash changes his play too (2x cheese this series, unorthodox time pushes in MSL...).
Why?
Because they both know they are facing their toughest opponent ever, and gaining while playing perfectly standard is long and takes a lot of energy, and is pretty much a toss up.
They know getting a decent advantage against such an opponent is ridiculously hard if you play by the book.
They also both know that no matter how good their opponent is, if they can get a sizeable advantage at some point in the game, they are 90% sure of riding it to victory.
So, they do whatever it takes to get that advantage.
If a 4 pool gives JD a 60% chance of coming out on top, you bet he will take the chance, because it is way better than 50% chance of winning after 50 minutes spent macroing off 7 bases and microing ultras-lings-defilers and what not.

And I am not even considering mind games here, which play a key part in choosing your BO.
You are lucky I don't have a banhammer
JSH
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4109 Posts
September 11 2010 13:46 GMT
#3658
On September 11 2010 22:44 andrinho wrote:
Where are the vods? Can't believe with all the people streaming it there is not yet a single vod up


Wait lol

it's only been like what 2-3 hours since it ended

I'm waiting for the vods as well the POWER RANK
:>
"It's called a miracle because it doesn't happen" - Just like my chances of reaching C- on ICCUP
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
September 11 2010 13:53 GMT
#3659
On September 11 2010 19:25 Crunchums wrote:
wtf was that intro made zero sense

I dreamed I slept through this and Flash won 3-1


I slept thru this and FlaSh won 3-1 D:
Woo Jung Ho, FIGHTING! | "With the death of BW comes the death of an idea. And that idea, held by many BW fans, was that a computer game could actually outlive the Next New Game cycle. And to some extent it did." -Falling
eNtitY~
Profile Joined January 2007
United States1293 Posts
September 11 2010 13:58 GMT
#3660
VoDs up anywhere yet?

http://www.starcraftdream.com
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