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PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
September 11 2010 12:25 GMT
#3461
On September 11 2010 21:22 Heimatloser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:17 PoP wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:15 regerstreen wrote:
Brood War ended for me. Whether kespa can defeat blizzard or not, after this final, pro starcraft will just feel empty.
The cycle is complete. The God has arrived. It's time for all to bow out gracefully.


Yeah people were saying this about Savior too.

savior, the match fixer?
lets not talk about him anymore, okay?


He's still one of the bonjwas, and probably the most dominant of them all (relatively). Deal with it.
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sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
September 11 2010 12:25 GMT
#3462
So, Flash #1 in powerrank then?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
September 11 2010 12:25 GMT
#3463
On September 11 2010 21:25 Pvvned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:21 Askalaphos wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:17 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:08 PaD wrote:
This aint SC2, stop bitchin about imbalance.

BW is Perfect !


Terran dominated most of the time over all these years, and most bonjwas were Terran (now there's yet one more).

I agree with that.

I think Terran is the strongest race in BW.

But well, nothing we can do...

and yet Zergs have still won a number of individual leagues

if anything, Protoss is just the weakest race in BW.

Yet somehow toss is still the most hated @@ cheese much?
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
crazeh
Profile Joined August 2010
91 Posts
September 11 2010 12:26 GMT
#3464
wasn't imba, Jaedong could have won those games if he got defilers earlier in game one and controlled his drop better in game 4 he just wasn't good enough and Flash crushed him.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 11 2010 12:26 GMT
#3465
On September 11 2010 21:25 alypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:22 alypse wrote:
BTW we officially got over 9000 viewers this final


that is pretty typical

do people still find the vegeta over 9000 thing amusing?


not typical for BW. for SC2 i don't know. never watch sc2


you must be quite new here if you think more than 9000 viewers for a bw finals stream is in any way significant

if anything this is probably one of the smaller viewings
RIP Aaliyah
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
September 11 2010 12:26 GMT
#3466
Dammit, this is not what I wanted to see when I woke up this morning....

Congrats to Flash.

So sad for Jaedong, though. He really needs to take a Bo5 at some point against Flash next season, or else I think the rivalry is basically over.

Can someone explain why JD lost in the 4th game?
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3467
I had my doubts in game 4 but his sense of timing and general game sense is so strong!! Cancelling turrets, running up the ramp... impressed.
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3468

Terran is too imba against zerg.
Mentally and skillwise, I always think Jaedong is the better player among these two.
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3469
On September 11 2010 21:25 sixfour wrote:
So, Flash #1 in powerrank then?

I would expect so, if he's not there better be the most creative excuse we've ever heard.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 12:27:43
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3470
On September 11 2010 21:25 Pvvned wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:21 Askalaphos wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:17 0xDEADBEEF wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:08 PaD wrote:
This aint SC2, stop bitchin about imbalance.

BW is Perfect !


Terran dominated most of the time over all these years, and most bonjwas were Terran (now there's yet one more).

I agree with that.

I think Terran is the strongest race in BW.

But well, nothing we can do...

and yet Zergs have still won a number of individual leagues

if anything, Protoss is just the weakest race in BW.


yea poor tosses =(, not a single bonjwa or golden mouse
i hope we get our sweet sweet revenge in sc2
tester ftw
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3471
The races in BW are balanced. They are so balanced that maps become a far larger factor in balance than race.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 12:30:59
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3472
On September 11 2010 21:25 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:22 Heimatloser wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:17 PoP wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:15 regerstreen wrote:
Brood War ended for me. Whether kespa can defeat blizzard or not, after this final, pro starcraft will just feel empty.
The cycle is complete. The God has arrived. It's time for all to bow out gracefully.


Yeah people were saying this about Savior too.

savior, the match fixer?
lets not talk about him anymore, okay?


He's still one of the bonjwas, and probably the most dominant of them all (relatively). Deal with it.


Savior never accomplished what Flash is doing, and a lot of people would argue Nada was more dominant and oov/boxer was more important for all races.

wasn't imba, Jaedong could have won those games if he got defilers earlier in game one and controlled his drop better in game 4 he just wasn't good enough and Flash crushed him.


Can you please tell Jaedong of a way to get defilers earlier than rushing to defiler? He practically skipped midgame to get them.

Game 4 was beauty on both sides. Jaedong with an incredible defense and I loved his strategical thinking, Flash for his overall game sense and defense and proactively denying any attempt at a third.

I think game 4 might be the most important game in SC since Bisu dethroned savior. I'm not talking about strategy or revolution, but just in a way it puts Flash on a level thought impossible.
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3473
On September 11 2010 21:25 PoP wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:22 Heimatloser wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:17 PoP wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:15 regerstreen wrote:
Brood War ended for me. Whether kespa can defeat blizzard or not, after this final, pro starcraft will just feel empty.
The cycle is complete. The God has arrived. It's time for all to bow out gracefully.


Yeah people were saying this about Savior too.

savior, the match fixer?
lets not talk about him anymore, okay?


He's still one of the bonjwas, and probably the most dominant of them all (relatively). Deal with it.


Yeah. I understand people being upset about match fixing but refusing to accept saviors existence and impact is pretty ridiculous.
RIP Aaliyah
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8091 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3474
On September 11 2010 21:22 magh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:21 Melancholia wrote:
Game 1: Oops, you lost a Defiler. GG!
Game 2: Alright, we traded cheeses, I dodged you bunker and still managed to take out half a dozen SCVs, circumvented your return push to stall reinforcements, and just barely held out to win.
Game 3: Err, my Zerglings were miss-pathed by your SCVs for a second, GG.
Game 4: I lose a handful of drones in exchange for almost your entire force and shut down the harass, but of course you can keep building workers when YOU cheese so you still win out. I then manage to take a lost game and pull off some sick swarm drops, plagues, and runbys to stay alive for ages after your lead should have finished it, as you 1a2a around the map and take out multiple expansions with a single Defensive Matrix.

Fuck you, Flash. Fuck you.

you summed it up quite nice there.
my feelings

MMmmmmmmm your fanboy tears are soooooooooo tasty
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 12:28:35
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3475
On September 11 2010 21:26 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Dammit, this is not what I wanted to see when I woke up this morning....

Congrats to Flash.

So sad for Jaedong, though. He really needs to take a Bo5 at some point against Flash next season, or else I think the rivalry is basically over.

Can someone explain why JD lost in the 4th game?


Flash pulled off a 5-rax which, while JD survived, damaged JD's econ enough for Flash to expand without worry and play his standard game. Gist of it, JD attempted to Doom Drop, Flash deflected, denied JD's expansions and went on to win.
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 12:29:44
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3476
Well done to Flash- it's an amazing achievement. I can't see anyone stopping from getting both titles next year either. It's great if you're a Flash fan but personally I'm going to be bored as hell if he dominates the next season as much.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3477
I think the drop deserved to work it was pretty clever, and Flash even built 4 bunkers at nat... but he just sieged tanks and attacked with rines and it was gone. Bleh.
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
September 11 2010 12:27 GMT
#3478
On September 11 2010 21:25 sixfour wrote:
So, Flash #1 in powerrank then?


The two guys in the intro hands down get joint #1. Flash's cape get's second.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
September 11 2010 12:28 GMT
#3479
gg and well deserved Flash
no
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
September 11 2010 12:28 GMT
#3480
On September 11 2010 21:23 Melancholia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:20 Keniji wrote:
yea i don't get all that imbalance screaming.

Not only killed he 4 drones (and jaedong didn't had 20 of them so it was huge), a overlord and jaedond didn't mined for hours but JD was still ahead.

Flash is just ridicolous good. Congrats.

Can't get enough of JD vs Flash finals (probably wasn't the last one)

How in the hell was JD ahead? Flash had twice the economy and plenty of production capability to hold, it doesn't matter how many hatcheries you have if you don't even have enough drones for each mineral patch at a single base.

Jaedong was ahead because he had the capacity to produce workers faster and his expansion was already up, while flash was in no position to put any preassure and hadn't even started his CC.

According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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