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Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 11 2010 12:31 GMT
#3501
Next season, they better use Katrina, PR, Loki II, and FS as the maps for both leagues.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 12:32:08
September 11 2010 12:31 GMT
#3502
On September 11 2010 21:30 alypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:25 alypse wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:22 alypse wrote:
BTW we officially got over 9000 viewers this final


that is pretty typical

do people still find the vegeta over 9000 thing amusing?


not typical for BW. for SC2 i don't know. never watch sc2


you must be quite new here if you think more than 9000 viewers for a bw finals stream is in any way significant

if anything this is probably one of the smaller viewings


really? because if my memory don't betray me, last 2 msl finals it never reached that mark. bigfile was around 7000.



Dr. H is talking way back, as in Savior's era. SL had huge coverage back then.

Edit: pre-Bisu era LMAO, as much as I love the Revolutionist his time never really came.
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
PoP
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
France15446 Posts
September 11 2010 12:31 GMT
#3503
On September 11 2010 21:30 Smix wrote:
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope this ending montage is put up on youtube later.. so epic


Oh shit I missed it. Hopefully one of the casters recorded it. :o
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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
September 11 2010 12:31 GMT
#3504
can we PLEASE start banning morons? jesus christ
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1601 Posts
September 11 2010 12:31 GMT
#3505
On September 11 2010 21:30 sb_474 wrote:
Whoever that says terran isnt op is a retarded. Most of the bonjwas are terran. This means the players of the other 2 races are noobs? or they have no brain?

When a player is able to beat an opponent who has a much better micro than him, it shows that something is wrong.. jaedong definitely has better micro as displayed in the games. Flash only need to turtle in 2 bases and win a zerg player. Nice balance starcraft1 got.

Fuck Terran.


JD micros? Only saw the mutas micro rest of his units were marine food.
OM NOM NOM
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 11 2010 12:31 GMT
#3506
On September 11 2010 21:30 Smix wrote:
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope this ending montage is put up on youtube later.. so epic

Yeah I agree, getting emotional watching it. So good
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
September 11 2010 12:32 GMT
#3507
On September 11 2010 21:31 Animostas wrote:
I can't believe people are crying Terran imbalance now. After like what, 12 years?

nah ppl have been complaing about terran imba for 12 years ;-)
| MLIA | the weather sucks dick here
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5599 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 12:33:38
September 11 2010 12:32 GMT
#3508
On September 11 2010 20:37 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:36 NeV wrote:
ok a triple 4 pool should work, flash won't expect that

Even if Jaedong wins, he'll win with shame.


On September 11 2010 20:38 Demand2k wrote:
Imagine if JD won the series, while at the same time admitting his inferiority on 2 out of 5 sets (so far)


On September 11 2010 20:32 Devolved wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:31 sharkeyanti wrote:
so does Flash have any incentive not to cheese in this next game?

The fact that he's the better player is incentive enough.


On September 11 2010 20:33 emoniax wrote:
desperate move by JD. He knows he cant beat Flash in a macro game. Another 4 Pool in Game4 and ill quit BW.


On September 11 2010 20:32 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:31 sharkeyanti wrote:
so does Flash have any incentive not to cheese in this next game?

dignity and skill


Selfpwn? Flash cheesed twice too. I guess that means he didnt deserve to win?

I think it was a great final. Amazing thrilling games most of them. Gz to Flash (and his fans) even though I wanted Jaedong to take this one so bad.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 11 2010 12:32 GMT
#3509
On September 11 2010 21:30 sb_474 wrote:
Whoever that says terran isnt op is a retarded. Most of the bonjwas are terran. This means the players of the other 2 races are noobs? or they have no brain?

When a player is able to beat an opponent who has a much better micro than him, it shows that something is wrong.. jaedong definitely has better micro as displayed in the games. Flash only need to turtle in 2 bases and win a zerg player. Nice balance starcraft1 got.

Fuck Terran.

Goodness you're mad.

Flash sat on two bases in game 4 (for example) because JD was sitting on two bases attacking him.

Micro is not the only important aspect. Flash demonstrated some really exceptional gamesense in catching expos and keeping his units from getting taken apart, and his macro was extremely solid as always.
sb_474
Profile Joined May 2010
Singapore11 Posts
September 11 2010 12:32 GMT
#3510
When a zerg player wins a terran, it shows that the zerg player is at least twice better than the terran player, however, jaedong is only 1.5 times better than flash, so flash wins. must give it to flash for being smart and pick the op race
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 11 2010 12:32 GMT
#3511
On September 11 2010 21:30 sb_474 wrote:
Whoever that says terran isnt op is a retarded. Most of the bonjwas are terran. This means the players of the other 2 races are noobs? or they have no brain?

When a player is able to beat an opponent who has a much better micro than him, it shows that something is wrong.. jaedong definitely has better micro as displayed in the games. Flash only need to turtle in 2 bases and win a zerg player. Nice balance starcraft1 got.

Fuck Terran.


1. bonjwa was coined because of savior

2. bisu was pretty close to getting that title sometime in 2009

3. boxer was made bonjwa for what he did for the development of the game more than anything. he didn't have the same amount of starleague success or the same amount of dominance as oov/savior/nada had.

if you think flash "only need to turtle in 2 bases and win a zerg player" then you're the one with no brain. Jaedong had some sloppy control in the first game, particularly with his mutalisks.

Micro isn't everything. Do you honestly think the player with the best micro should win every game of sc? If that was the case than Hwasin, Light, and Sea would have surely been more successful players than Flash don't you think?
RIP Aaliyah
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
September 11 2010 12:33 GMT
#3512
On September 11 2010 21:32 blue_arrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:31 Animostas wrote:
I can't believe people are crying Terran imbalance now. After like what, 12 years?

nah ppl have been complaing about terran imba for 12 years ;-)

A lot more so since the sc2 beta. They should keep it on their side of the forums.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
September 11 2010 12:33 GMT
#3513
On September 11 2010 21:29 NoobSkills wrote:
LMFAO @ All JD FANBOYS.
Terran is now imbalanced because flash stomped again the top zerg.
After flash name one terran that would dominate JD.
There isn't one. If flash chose to afk the first 20 seconds of the game he would still probably wind up winning. Just deal with the fact he is what he is...

Bonjwa when JD isn't.


You're right that there's no terran who could do to JD what Flash did, but to dismiss JD like this is not right. He is an extraordinary player, they're both Bonjwas.
Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
September 11 2010 12:33 GMT
#3514
On September 11 2010 21:29 NoobSkills wrote:
LMFAO @ All JD FANBOYS.
Terran is now imbalanced because flash stomped again the top zerg.
After flash name one terran that would dominate JD.
There isn't one. If flash chose to afk the first 20 seconds of the game he would still probably wind up winning. Just deal with the fact he is what he is...

Bonjwa when JD isn't.


Now you're just plain trolling. Don't exaggerate things when clearly it was a game at its finest. If flash has reacted one second late he would have lost
Lee Jaedong Fighting!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
September 11 2010 12:33 GMT
#3515
On September 11 2010 21:30 alypse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:25 alypse wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:22 alypse wrote:
BTW we officially got over 9000 viewers this final


that is pretty typical

do people still find the vegeta over 9000 thing amusing?


not typical for BW. for SC2 i don't know. never watch sc2


you must be quite new here if you think more than 9000 viewers for a bw finals stream is in any way significant

if anything this is probably one of the smaller viewings


really? because if my memory don't betray me, last 2 msl finals it never reached that mark. bigfile was around 7000.



oh shit

i forgot there were no starleagues before 2010
RIP Aaliyah
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
September 11 2010 12:33 GMT
#3516
And so the Brood Wars end, with 2 bonjwas reigning side by side.
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
September 11 2010 12:34 GMT
#3517
On September 11 2010 21:32 Elroi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:37 T.O.P. wrote:
On September 11 2010 20:36 NeV wrote:
ok a triple 4 pool should work, flash won't expect that

Even if Jaedong wins, he'll win with shame.


Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:38 Demand2k wrote:
Imagine if JD won the series, while at the same time admitting his inferiority on 2 out of 5 sets (so far)


Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:32 Devolved wrote:
On September 11 2010 20:31 sharkeyanti wrote:
so does Flash have any incentive not to cheese in this next game?

The fact that he's the better player is incentive enough.


Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:33 emoniax wrote:
desperate move by JD. He knows he cant beat Flash in a macro game. Another 4 Pool in Game4 and ill quit BW.


Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 20:32 johanes wrote:
On September 11 2010 20:31 sharkeyanti wrote:
so does Flash have any incentive not to cheese in this next game?

dignity and skill


Selfpwn? Flash cheesed twice too. I guess that means he didnt deserve to win?

I think it was a great final. Amazing thrilling games most of them.


These people are idiots. They both attempted to cheese the same number of times.
finkelboy
Profile Joined December 2008
Italy372 Posts
September 11 2010 12:34 GMT
#3518
damn.. i'm so disappointed by jd.. That 4 pool in the third set was so coward.. And my beloved Byunggu was so close to these finals, he would have done a way better job i think, Flash vs Stork is the best final imo.
Anyway, deserved the title, sad day but it's ok, we have to admit Flash > jd
Ma jae yoon, what else? By.hero next bonjwa
]343[
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States10328 Posts
September 11 2010 12:34 GMT
#3519
On September 11 2010 21:32 blue_arrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:31 Animostas wrote:
I can't believe people are crying Terran imbalance now. After like what, 12 years?

nah ppl have been complaing about terran imba for 12 years ;-)


pretty sure that pre-Boxer terran was considered by far the weakest race
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Metallingus
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines468 Posts
September 11 2010 12:34 GMT
#3520
On September 11 2010 21:33 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:29 NoobSkills wrote:
LMFAO @ All JD FANBOYS.
Terran is now imbalanced because flash stomped again the top zerg.
After flash name one terran that would dominate JD.
There isn't one. If flash chose to afk the first 20 seconds of the game he would still probably wind up winning. Just deal with the fact he is what he is...

Bonjwa when JD isn't.


You're right that there's no terran who could do to JD what Flash did, but to dismiss JD like this is not right. He is an extraordinary player, they're both Bonjwas.


Agreed, JD is a Bonjwa in his own right IMO. When the metagame can be summed up along the lines of "if it had been any other player than Flash/JD, he'd have been destroyed" you know that they deserve the title either way.
Overcome all. Especially plateaus.
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