• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 08:02
CET 14:02
KST 22:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)19Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Which foreign pros are considered the best? BW AKA finder tool
Tourneys
Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Navigating the Risks and Rew…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1231 users

[OSL] Korean Air OSL 2 Grand Final - Page 12

Forum Index > Brood War Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 194 Next
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 11 2010 03:59 GMT
#221
On September 11 2010 11:04 Rucky wrote:
damn can't watch it live!! what horrible luck. the electric company just decided to choose today during the times the final will be taking place to have a planned power outage.

Hope for good games and quick vods.

In United States, power outage visits y- *bang*

On September 11 2010 12:52 Kacas wrote:
ok, another question.

Is there some way to watch the games later without having any kind of spoilers?

entering this topic i will see the number of pages and would know if there were many games or not. that would spoil after 2 games. going on youtube and searching for vods would spoil the other games too. what to do? =(

Just ask someone to PM the vod links to you when it comes up with it being spoiler for individual match like it is generally done in live report threads. Of course finding someone willing to do it is the problem.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
Kacas
Profile Joined July 2003
Brazil3143 Posts
September 11 2010 04:13 GMT
#222
hehe yah, i was thinking about calling my brother to open youtube tabs on my computer but will be a hell for him to find the exactly games.

i will use the small vod thread tip

thx guys
gonna sleep


once again: GOOOOOO JAEDONNNNNNNNNNG
I Love Hyori Lee =* icq: 41760400 / msn: kayen_chn at hotm
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
September 11 2010 04:19 GMT
#223
Oh my god so hyped for this. And it's great because I don't mind who wins. I just want some great games. If I had to chose I would say I want Flash to win since Jaedong already has the golden mouse. Either way it's about time there was a FvJ OSL final and history will be made regardless. Flash will either get his Golden mouse or Jaedong will become the most successful OSL progamer in history (counting Golds).

Interesting to note Jaedong has never lost in an OSL grand final, and Flash has only beaten tosses for his golds.
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
September 11 2010 04:20 GMT
#224
terminator time, go flash!!!!
ace hwaiting!!
emoniax
Profile Joined January 2010
Philippines81 Posts
September 11 2010 04:31 GMT
#225
I am a FLash fan, but i am rooting for JD on this one. To bring back the equality and the balance of the game. Flash is so imba lately that BW is like being a onesided game everytime Flash plays.

But we all have to admit, in order for JD to win this series he needs to cheese in 1 or 2 games. Right now, there is no way he can outmacro Flash, not even the great cheater terran oov can beat Flash in a late game macro playing both in their primes. JD has to cheese or stop FLash's timing push and I think JD can grab his 4th OSL.
Go Flash!!! TERRAN TERRAN TERRAN!!! did I just say TERRAN?!
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
September 11 2010 04:55 GMT
#226
I'm not bashing the map pool (which is a lot better than MSL's), but it probably puts a TON of pressure on Jaedong.

Almost all of the maps are significantly Terran-favored, with the sole, glaring exception of Dreamliner. I feel that it puts even more stress on Jaedong, because it will absolutely crush him if he loses on it. It is utterly his game to lose on it, while Flash can do whatever he wants to do with the expectation that no one is counting on him; Jaedong absolutely must win on Dreamliner if he wants to have a shot (assuming he hasn't been 3-0'd already by that point). With Flash as strong as he is right now, to win on any of the other 3 maps (well, mostly PR and Grand Line SE) will be nigh impossible for any Zerg--even Jaedong.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
September 11 2010 04:58 GMT
#227
How soon after it starts do games begin? Don't want to wake up too early if I don't have to.
STX Fighting!
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3507 Posts
September 11 2010 04:59 GMT
#228
Really easy to look at the calendar. Starts in 5 hours.
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
September 11 2010 05:03 GMT
#229
FLASH WILL NOT BE BONJWA
he will be a GOAT
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
September 11 2010 05:13 GMT
#230
Shit I was just out drinking and I'm tired as fuck

Doubt I will wake up to see this
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
September 11 2010 05:23 GMT
#231
On September 11 2010 14:13 King K. Rool wrote:
Shit I was just out drinking and I'm tired as fuck

Doubt I will wake up to see this

u will regret it
Buy prints of my photographs at Redbubble -> http://www.redbubble.com/people/shoenberg3
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 05:46:05
September 11 2010 05:27 GMT
#232
My Predictions:

This is all in the spirit to hype this up XD I'm just a fan that's a little too addicted to pro starcraft So here's a gut feeling prediction.

+ Show Spoiler +
Game 1: Eye of the Storm

Jaedong:

Despite what most Jaedong fans want, I expect Jaedong to open with his normal 12 hatch opening. Why? Jaedong is stubborn. Jaedong wants to do to Flash what sAviOr did to oov. He wants to beat Flash his way. Further, I think Jaedong wants to distinguish himself as the undisputed best Zerg. Well he already is right? Well, EffOrt showed the power of early aggression against the macro beast that is Flash, and I think as stubborn as Jaedong is, he doesn't want to be lugged in with EffOrt. What's more, Jaedong has been honing, and re-honing his raw ZvT mechanics over these last few month's and I think he's confident in a standard game. Finally, this isn't PR, and there isn't a garage full of VODs of his play-style on EotS; so he doesn't need to go some crazy econ build and leave himself open to a perfectly prepared bio/gol timing push.To sum it up, Jaedong played Flash standard on FS, he clawed his way back from the brink through risky play that payed off. Yes, Flash made mistakes, but it was up to Jaedong to exploit them.

Flash:

From Flash, I would be very surprised if he doesn't 14cc. He excels at macro, he's rolled Jaedong with 14ccs and its a build he absolutely loves to use in FvJ. Then, I expect a very well prepared build for this first game. Something Flash whipped up to specifically exploit Jaedong's play. I expect Flash to play similarly to the way he did in game 1 of the MSL. Sure, it was easier to predict how Jaedong would play, sure denying scouting was easier on PR, and this situation seems much harder to predict and prepare for. However, this is Flash. He knows he has seer-like game sense, he knows Jaedong's tendencies, and most of all, Flash knows that he can win the mind games. Flash is extremely smart and he knows it. He's going to have a very precise build planned for this game 1, and I expect a very well prepared timing push from Flash in this game 1.

Who wins:

Game 1 is going to set the pace for this whole series. Flash rarely loses game 1 and I'm sure that game 1 setting is going to be incredibly comfortable for the Terran bonjwa. However, I say Jaedong is much more prepared for any type of funky build, and I say he defends whatever attack Flash has up his sleeve and takes Flash into unfamiliar territory and pulls off the win. Jaedong 1-0.

Game 2: Polaris Rhapsody

Jaedong:

This is the map Jaedong is going to be aggressive on. I expect a 9 pool, or some sort of muta all-in. Why? Because Jaedong saw how going greedy blew up in his face in game 1 of the MSL, and how had he 9 pooled in game 5, he would've won against Flash's blind 14cc. Jaedong's going to want vengence, he's going to want to make a statement, and he's going to want to beat Flash on a map he is very comfortable on. I can only say Jaedong's going to play aggressive and mean.

Flash:

It's difficult for me to predict how Flash will respond after losing game 1. Flash never loses the first game, and he usually uses it as a stepping stone to take control of the series. Since he rarely loses game 1, I don't have much to go on. (Sure he lost to MVP in the Hana Datoo MSL, but the Bo5 was split up, and when they game back Flash did the typical, win the first game played and dominate). If Jaedong takes game 1, I say Flash gets a little rattled, but doesn't change his game plan. I expect a another carefully prepared build from the Oracle. That said, Flash may not be expecting early aggression on PR and that could cause problems, but it's frickin Flash, and the dude always seems to know what's going to happen.


Who wins:

Jaedong's going to be pissed on this map and he's going to come out mean. That said, Flash can see into the future, and I expect him to win pretty handedly. I think the game is close to a toss up because of Jaedong's wrath, but I see Flash winning as expected. Tied 1-1.

Game 3: Grand Line SE

Jaedong:

Well, I would not be surprised to see some kind of hydra bust from Jaedong on this map, but deep down, I expect Jaedong to go some thing like 3 hatch--> Evo --> 4 hatch. I can't really describe why I think Jaedong will go for some strange build, but given the series is 1-1, I think he'll want to mix it up. What's more, Jaedong will probably expect Flash to not want to go into DL with his back against the wall. If Flash goes into DL 1-2, and spawns 6 o' clock, he's going to be very pressured. I think Jaedong is going to try and play with an unorthodox build to mix up a very likely early bio push. I don't think Jaedong will want to play standard on this map, not when his 3rd gas is so hard to secure. Expect something nonstandard but not ultra aggressive either.


Flash:

Flash is going to be a little more comfortable, but not exactly content. He just won on a map he was expected to win on, so it's no time to breathe a sigh of relief. I expect same old 14cc, and a bio --> mech. It's strong, it's standard, and Flash knows it pretty damn well. I'm sure he won't repeat game 3 of the MSL and have perfect Light-style timings. He knows it's strong and he knows it's beaten Jaedong in the past.


Who's wins:

Game 3 is going to be the best game of this series. I think it'll be back and forth. I expect to see drops, tank lines up the ass, lots of swarm, and some damn impressive starcraft. Am I optimistic? Yes. Jaedong takes down Flash in his comfort zone despite the odds, and pulls off a spectacular win. Jaedong 2-1.

Game 4: Flight-Dreamliner

Jaedong:

Jaedong's sitting pretty right now. Going into a Zerg favored map, up 1 game in the series, and he know's Flash will be desperate. He can expect Flash to be rattled, and I expect Jaedong to play a comfortable game. I don't expect aggression from Jaedong in this game, because Flash is the one who has to make something happen now. I think Jaedong is going to sit back and react to Flash's build. Expect a drone to scout, in case of an 8 rax, and expect Jaedong to play very calmly and conservatively.

Flash:

Suddenly the tables have turned on our beloved bonjwa. Like Jaedong had to make something happen before him, suddenly he has to do something special to take this to a fifth set. I think Flash will be rattled at this point. He's definitely going to be out of his comfort zone since he pretty much never finds himself down in a series. He's been tied recently, but not down. What's worse, he's on a map he doesn't like. Flash is either going to go for some sort of cheese (Like the Nate), or try and rely on his previously prepared build. The question will be: Did he expect to be down going into DL when he prepared his build?

Who wins:

I think whatever Flash does, he makes mistakes. It's not easy to play out of your comfort zone, and I think Flash pays for it. Jaedong will be calm, and playing relaxed and reactive will win him this game. Jaedong 3-1.
Jaedong and Baby
ilj.psa
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Peru3081 Posts
September 11 2010 05:49 GMT
#233
its 19:00, but the preshow is an hour long right? so the games will actually begin at 20:00? correct me if im wrong anyone , to set up my alarm oo
MasterNon
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden5 Posts
September 11 2010 05:49 GMT
#234
Where will this be streamed if it will be? I usually wait for the games to get youtubed. Go Flash
zenMaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada761 Posts
September 11 2010 06:02 GMT
#235
JD wins this one, then the next OSL for the PLATINUM MOUSEUUUUUUUU!
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
September 11 2010 06:07 GMT
#236
On September 11 2010 14:49 ilj.psa wrote:
its 19:00, but the preshow is an hour long right? so the games will actually begin at 20:00? correct me if im wrong anyone , to set up my alarm oo


Yea, about an hour. Although I'm not sure what type of pre-show they'll be doing in Shanghai.
HowardRoark
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
1146 Posts
September 11 2010 06:43 GMT
#237

It would be crazy if there will be no english casts of the korean streams!? Tell me there will be someone casting?
"It is really good to get the double observatory if you want to get the speed and sight range for the observer simultaneously. It's a little bit of an advanced tactic, and by advanced, I mean really fucking bad."
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
September 11 2010 06:47 GMT
#238
http://tv.zeroboy.net/kentor
http://c.zeroboy.net/kentor (no chat)
zengrz
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada37 Posts
September 11 2010 06:55 GMT
#239
On September 11 2010 15:47 Kentor wrote:
http://tv.zeroboy.net/kentor
http://c.zeroboy.net/kentor (no chat)



OMG THANKS!
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
September 11 2010 07:06 GMT
#240
Go jaedong get your 4th osl gold MAN!!!!
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Prev 1 10 11 12 13 14 194 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
RongYI Cup
11:00
Group B
ShoWTimE vs BunnyLIVE!
Clem vs TBD
RotterdaM946
ComeBackTV 836
mouzHeroMarine282
IndyStarCraft 193
BRAT_OK 120
Rex113
3DClanTV 64
EnkiAlexander 47
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 946
mouzHeroMarine 282
IndyStarCraft 193
BRAT_OK 120
Rex 113
CosmosSc2 56
ProTech39
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 5831
PianO 1993
Horang2 1973
GuemChi 769
Stork 632
Jaedong 597
Light 505
BeSt 478
Shuttle 335
Hyuk 329
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 213
firebathero 198
Snow 176
Larva 145
Soulkey 136
Killer 109
Hyun 104
Sharp 102
Mong 88
hero 77
yabsab 64
Shine 57
Mind 53
Backho 52
scan(afreeca) 52
JYJ 47
ToSsGirL 44
Yoon 35
Barracks 28
Free 24
Shinee 21
Terrorterran 19
Hm[arnc] 19
zelot 15
NaDa 14
Dota 2
singsing2335
qojqva948
XcaliburYe158
canceldota33
febbydoto15
Counter-Strike
kennyS2063
olofmeister2062
shoxiejesuss1136
zeus894
allub280
edward72
kRYSTAL_15
Other Games
summit1g6383
B2W.Neo1080
crisheroes284
Sick210
Hui .178
XaKoH 125
Mew2King83
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 39
• LUISG 25
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Laughngamez YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1595
• TFBlade772
• Stunt687
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
3h 58m
Percival vs Gerald
Serral vs MaxPax
RongYI Cup
21h 58m
SHIN vs Creator
Classic vs Percival
OSC
23h 58m
BSL 21
1d 1h
RongYI Cup
1d 21h
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 22h
BSL 21
2 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-20
OSC Championship Season 13
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Escore Tournament S1: W5
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
Tektek Cup #1
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.