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Matoo--
Profile Joined August 2010
France25 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 08:19:53
August 21 2010 08:18 GMT
#1861
Cheese in Starcraft is the same as in real life. Some people just can't stand it. I pity the fools.

And btw what JD did wasn't even cheese.
NeoOmega
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States495 Posts
August 21 2010 08:21 GMT
#1862
On August 21 2010 17:09 darkmetal505 wrote:
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I'd still take Lights TvZ and in-game decision making over yours and everyone else in this thread. Don't hate the man because he took a chance. Taking chances is how you win games.
darkmetal505
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States639 Posts
August 21 2010 08:25 GMT
#1863
Well obviously. That's why he's in Korea playing Starcraft and I'm not. I posted that to show that Light could've easily prevented that from happening.

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Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
August 21 2010 08:54 GMT
#1864
On August 21 2010 17:21 NeoOmega wrote:
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That's all she wrote.


I'd still take Lights TvZ and in-game decision making over yours and everyone else in this thread. Don't hate the man because he took a chance. Taking chances is how you win games.

This has nothing to do with taking chances, this has everything to do with him choking like a bitch and not responding to anything he scouts. He didn't even have a Ebay by the time mutas arrived to his base. He was trying to fight mutas + speedlings with 7-8 rines with 2 medics and no bunker. So if even if JD had not attacked with the zerglings and simply kept em outside, the result would have been very similar. It was a terrible reaction and a shitty way to lose a game 5 in a semi-final.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
August 21 2010 09:19 GMT
#1865
dang, forgot that checking liquibet would likely have the result up. oh well.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
August 21 2010 09:20 GMT
#1866
That was a sick series. Pity Odd-Eye 3 is just FFFFFFU-

Oh well, the two infested CCs made me happy, and good thing Jaedong didn't let Light build up on Polaris. Jaedong <3333
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 09:36:20
August 21 2010 09:35 GMT
#1867
On August 21 2010 17:11 jyLee wrote:
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On August 21 2010 16:34 shadesofkarma wrote:
On August 21 2010 16:25 LuigiNMario wrote:
On August 21 2010 16:24 Yxes2211 wrote:
On August 21 2010 16:17 LuigiNMario wrote:
On August 21 2010 16:16 OpticalShot wrote:
This thread's fanboy/girl arguments are too weak. I'm expecting better after the finals =P



Can you really call me a fanboy for hating on cheesy zergling agression?


Nah... Why would anyone be aggressive with the first military unit to come out? I mean, Zergs by their nature are not an aggressive race right?

God bro, early aggression is how u punish greed, any competent player would do the same.


I keep telling you 1 cheese win is fine by me, but 2 is too much for me to handle :l and I'll start hating like i did with effort. ;/


Why don't you go hate on Flash for 14 CCing his way to 3-0.


14cc is rather economical rather than cheesy

LOL you dont think 14cc is cheese? Are you fucking serious? 14cc is on par with a 4 pool in terms of tvz cheese. Blindly going for maximum eco is the same kind of cheese as going for maximum aggression with 4 pool.

What about 14 double expand? Thats s-class eco cheese if you pull it off correctly. Or proxy 5pool (first build second hatch in his base)
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 21 2010 09:44 GMT
#1868
WOOOOOOOOOOT GG. I love Jaedong, although I'm a little bitter that out of all games, he didn't win a macro game. The only 2 late games were set 2 and 3, and light won both. Jaedong basically won from a ling all in, muta all in, and muta / ling all in respectively. Ah well, I feel Jaedong outplayed light in set 3, but lost due to how T>>>Z Odd Eye is.

GGs all around, but Jaedong is gonna have to up his game to take down Flash. He has better mid + late game TvZ than Light, and he sure as hell won't fall for early game shenanigans 3 times in a row.

This map pool though.....so bad....
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
August 21 2010 09:49 GMT
#1869
Jaedong going to need a way better mid/late game to beat flash.

The cute shit Jae used on Light isn't going to work on Flash who adapts much better.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
August 21 2010 09:53 GMT
#1870
On August 21 2010 18:44 SubtleArt wrote:
WOOOOOOOOOOT GG. I love Jaedong, although I'm a little bitter that out of all games, he didn't win a macro game. The only 2 late games were set 2 and 3, and light won both. Jaedong basically won from a ling all in, muta all in, and muta / ling all in respectively. Ah well, I feel Jaedong outplayed light in set 3, but lost due to how T>>>Z Odd Eye is.

GGs all around, but Jaedong is gonna have to up his game to take down Flash. He has better mid + late game TvZ than Light, and he sure as hell won't fall for early game shenanigans 3 times in a row.

This map pool though.....so bad....


Or will he......??
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DemiSe
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
883 Posts
August 21 2010 11:18 GMT
#1871
Jaedong just played brilliant, great series.
Let's See Who's Stronger, Your Tricks, Or My Skills.
Bop4yH
Profile Joined October 2007
United States67 Posts
August 21 2010 11:29 GMT
#1872
So we have Flash vs JD WCG final and Flash vs JD MSL final. Sweet...
faculty.aCe.
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany107 Posts
August 21 2010 11:36 GMT
#1873
Would be so epic if Jaedong vs Flash = Final in MSL, OSL and WCG :D
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 21 2010 11:36 GMT
#1874
On August 21 2010 18:44 SubtleArt wrote:
WOOOOOOOOOOT GG. I love Jaedong, although I'm a little bitter that out of all games, he didn't win a macro game.

Sometimes, it's just not viable to macro a win against greed. 14CC> 3h->p. If the opponent plays greedy it's not a good idea to play a macro game at a disadvantage. You punish their greed with aggression.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2593 Posts
August 21 2010 12:45 GMT
#1875
OMG.... Kudos to WINNER!!!!! JD > light..... i went out with friends when JD was losing badly in game 3. Glad to have found out JD won 3-2!!!!!!!
Note: it also happened in Batoo OSL when Fanta was 2-0 against JD T_____T
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
August 21 2010 14:27 GMT
#1876
You know - If Light could come back against impossible odds on Odd Eye, image what would have happened if Flash didnt lose to power outage
"I know that human beings and fish can coexist peacefully" -GWB ||
nerium
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Philippines512 Posts
August 21 2010 14:34 GMT
#1877
On August 21 2010 23:27 Emon_ wrote:
You know - If Light could come back against impossible odds on Odd Eye, image what would have happened if Flash didnt lose to power outage


what? not this again!
Lulz is a corrupted version of LOL
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 14:48:56
August 21 2010 14:47 GMT
#1878
I felt like Jaedong had plenty of timing windows early on where he could've finished Light off in game 3. Instead, he just kept getting more bases and let Light build up his imba mech army.

Game 2 was a bit sloppy from Jaedong, but that was some of the best fucking TvZ I've ever seen. Light's SK Terran is just scary, I don't even recall Flash playing a game that good.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
August 21 2010 14:50 GMT
#1879
is there any vods for this yet?
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
August 21 2010 15:04 GMT
#1880
Cheese is bunker rush or 4 pool.


Well played by both players. Very impressed with Light, he's gone a long way, but Jaedong is still the better skilled player.


Going to be very difficult for Jaedong to overcome Flash.


But I am happy these 2 made the finals 3 times in a row.
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