EPT[OSL] Round of 8 - Day 1 - Page 38
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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InRaged
1047 Posts
On August 20 2010 21:41 setzer wrote: Way to contradict your previous statement. Floating 1500 minerals and 600-700 gas is bad macro, anyway you look at it. And I know you are a Flash fanboy but you should just face reality and admit Flash didn't really deserve the win. Minerals always float above 1k in TvT after early game, unless Terran is in the deep ass. Floating around 600 gas with 5 running geysers while pressuring opponent with constant aggression is a great macro And you mean Leta deserved to win? The guy who instead of securing his immense lead tries to needlessly pressure his opponent and then horribly fails? This game showed that Flash knows better how to play TvT and doesn't fall apart even after fucked up early-game, and therefore he definitely deserved to win over Leta. | ||
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kawatan
288 Posts
it has to be the buddha beads. | ||
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revy
United States1524 Posts
On August 20 2010 21:59 Masheyoon wrote: ??? Am I missing something? All of the matches seen today were Bo3s. The return matches will be played on the 27th. Anyway, I still don't understand why Leta didn't produce vultures when he had over 1,000 minerals in the bank. You could argue Flash didn't deserve it, but then neither did Leta. I think the lack of vults was because he wanted to save the mins so that he could produce gas units (since gas units >>>> vults) but the unfortunate thing was that he was at a huge mineral disadvantage the second Flash took the last good mineral field. He needed to produce as many units as he could to prevent Flash from taking that last expo. | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
On August 20 2010 22:01 kawatan wrote: if flash is bad tvt then what does that make leta nobody supernatural or otherwise pulled letas fingers and made his dships run into those turrets Flash vT ELO rank is way higher than any other Terran. Not even Skyhigh is close to beat him. In this month is 12-2 vs top ranked Terrans. End of story! In fact he is the only player with 2300+ ELO vT!..So yeah! This is how bad it is!  | ||
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Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
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setzer
United States3284 Posts
On August 20 2010 22:06 InRaged wrote: Minerals always float above 1k in TvT after early game, unless Terran is in the deep ass. Floating around 600 gas with 5 running geysers while pressuring opponent with constant aggression is a great macro And you mean Leta deserved to win? The guy who instead of securing his immense lead tries to needlessly pressure his opponent and then horribly fails? This game showed that Flash knows better how to play TvT and doesn't fall apart even after fucked up early-game, and therefore he definitely deserved to win over Leta. I don't know what you mean by "needlessly pressure." It was that exact same pressure that kept Flash from ever securing a third gas. It was that exact same pressure that forced him to move units to defend his factories. This allowed Leta to fully secure his double gas expo and work on the 3 o clock expo. It was only when he decided to not scan and fly into into a ton of turrets (that Flash built because Leta had dropped there twice before) did Flash actually have a chance at playing. Flash did nothing up until that point that showed he was winning. Flash does what he does best, and that is to get the W. I'm sure that is what only matters to him, but it was a pretty unsatisfactory way to get it. If you actually think Flash did more to get it instead of Leta losing it, then you are fooling yourself. | ||
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Yggdrasil Leaf
221 Posts
On August 20 2010 22:23 setzer wrote: If you actually think Flash did more to get it instead of Leta losing it, then you are fooling yourself. In the end he did. | ||
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On August 20 2010 21:03 setzer wrote: Good job Leta, you blew your chance at an OSL title. Flash's most undeserved victory ever. It's pretty amazing how much luck he has. Gotta be good to be lucky dude. Beating Leta (64.52 % TvT) 3 times in a row, ForGG (48.96% TvT but mainly cause of how bad it was before) 3 times in a row, and Fantasy (59.52%) 5-2, all within 2 weeks, is a little more than luck i'd say, yes?? Or you can keep being deluded | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
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kawatan
288 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Wings
United States999 Posts
On August 20 2010 22:04 Holgerius wrote: Flash is fucking horrible and the only reason he ever wins a game is because his opponents are even more horrible. He just gets lucky every single game. dude i totally agree. everyone thinks Flash is so good but I've never actually seen a game where he's won decisively, always some mistake and the other guy rolls over dead. i'm also a strong proponent of Terran imba, which is why Flash has been winning all the time, especially in games like today... there's a freaking 100% win rate for Terran. like wtf | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Womwomwom
5930 Posts
What separates him from the other terrans is his mental strength. He's already completely unmatched in turtling and defense in general, its even worse since he doesn't really panic even under extreme pressure. His opponents always seem to buckle under the pressure and simply want to finish him off as quickly as possible to prevent him from consolidating his position. And its not like he's bad at attacking; he has some of the best unit positioning and late game large army movement of all Brood War players. Leta's play reeked of impatience and his face showed his frustration ingame and after the game very clearly. He seemed to want to keep Flash from consolidating and pretty much kill him off as fast as possible, considering letting him turtle means you can pretty much lose even if you own every single resource site on the map since his late game play is levels above everyone that isn't Skyhigh (debatable, but I do think Skyhigh is a better TvT player if you need TvT snipes but series matches? he never gets far enough since he's godawful at TvZ and TvP). If Leta watched the MSL last night + Show Spoiler + it's probably why he didn't want to delay the game. Fantasy lost game one even with the whole map and nearly lost it again in game three | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
 Sounds to me like people are upset that Leta made a mistake from a heavy lead. Give flash some credit though, when the positions were reversed he didn't fuck up, he almost never does. What whould have happened to Leta had flash had letas position in the early midgame? He would have been totally crushed, better player won. | ||
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Go Leta~ | ||
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SimonB
United States1088 Posts
On August 20 2010 20:43 GTR wrote: loleta. Petition to have this nickname listed in his TLPD! | ||
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DarkMatter_
Canada1774 Posts
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AlTheCake
Canada1071 Posts
Here he is pretty damn far in the OSL and he has to face Jaedong ): Action <3 | ||
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its a BoX right?
