EPTOn August 20 2010 20:43 Djin)ftw( wrote:
OMG LETA
flying 4 or 5 dropships into turrets at the main OMG
OMG LETA
flying 4 or 5 dropships into turrets at the main OMG
I want to see this drop, is there a vod up for it?
[OSL] Round of 8 - Day 1 - Page 40
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Cirn9
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I want to see this drop, is there a vod up for it? | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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TriniMasta
United States1323 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On August 21 2010 16:01 TriniMasta wrote: Stork vs Sea, my least favorite players playing each other. Damn why does one have to win? Because Stork is awesome. | ||
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MuffinDude
United States3837 Posts
On August 21 2010 00:52 DarkMatter_ wrote: Action and Leta are two of the weakest players out of the eight. It makes sense that they get set up against the two strongest players. I hope Jaedong, Stork, Zero and Flash make it out of their groups. Those semi-finals are going to be absolutely epic. They sound even more exciting than Flash vs. Fantasy and JD vs. Light. Cause it is more epic. On August 20 2010 21:03 setzer wrote: Good job Leta, you blew your chance at an OSL title. Flash's most undeserved victory ever. It's pretty amazing how much luck he has. Hey~ I thought the same thing when Flash threw away his golden mouse in the last osl. Effort is the luckiest player I know, Flash literally threw away game 3, 4, and 5. | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Anyway, I cringed so hard when Leta threw away his HUGE lead by flying all of his DSs into the turrets. How could you not scan before you drop, seriously?? He lost control the second he lost his fleet, and Flash almost instantly caught up and took the lead. You really can't make a mistake like that against any progamer, let alone Flash. However, it seems that top terran players have figured out a way to beat Flash by exploiting his weakness in early-/mid-games, exemplified by the series against Fantasy (esp. game 1, 3 and 4) and the most recent game against Leta. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On August 22 2010 07:09 Yodo wrote: There is no such thing like a constant luck. It is measure of skills. Game 1 against Fantasy was skill and determination, this game was purely luck. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On August 20 2010 21:43 Fenrax wrote: Let's collect some facts: - Leta played a risky early game that ended with him having a nice advantage - In the early midgame Leta extended that early game advantage with nice Micro and good decisions and put Flash into a position of no return in the midgame - Not even a B Teamer should lose a game vs. Flash with such an advantage - Leta threw that big advantage in 2 minutes with a WTF-drop and by not defending vs Vulture harass - even after that failed drop and the Vulture Harass Leta was still ahead - after the failed drop it seemed like Leta was AFK. He didnt do much for the rest of the game and especially nothing good. - Flash showed once again great fighting spirit - Flash's macro, his lategame and especially the drop in Leta's main were a class of his own Game was over when Leta lost his DS. He was mentally broken and never recovered despite dragging the game for 20 more minutes. There wasn't much Leta could do despite a minute advantage because the map was split, and he knew Flash had better late-game control and management. | ||
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
On August 22 2010 07:13 Cambium wrote: VODs are up on wfbrood/youku. Anyway, I cringed so hard when Leta threw away his HUGE lead by flying all of his DSs into the turrets. How could you not scan before you drop, seriously?? He lost control the second he lost his fleet, and Flash almost instantly caught up and took the lead. You really can't make a mistake like that against any progamer, let alone Flash. However, it seems that top terran players have figured out a way to beat Flash by exploiting his weakness in early-/mid-games, exemplified by the series against Fantasy (esp. game 1, 3 and 4) and the most recent game against Leta. for me it seems like "top terran players have figured out a way to ALMOST beat Flash" ;-) | ||
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Yodo
Russian Federation327 Posts
this game was purely luck. Nope. Each mistake made by Leta was provoked by Flash's actions. And the number of mistakes directly correlate with the player skill level. So what we have, is Leta mistakes and overall bad late-game from him (mostly due to absence of stamina it seems). Word "luck" can have deterministic meaning (i.e. Leta makes big mistakes on very very rare occasion which is obviously far from truth) or descriptive meaning (i.e. you dont expect Leta to lost). I think we have the second one. Then how we can speak of win/loss if any mistake which we dont expect from the player will be considered as pure luck? From your point of view even presence of Leta in R8 is luck, coz he has Bisu and Effort at group. So, from haters speech to common you sentence will be like: "I'm surprised with Leta's lost." | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On August 22 2010 08:36 Yodo wrote: Word "luck" can have deterministic meaning (i.e. Leta makes big mistakes on very very rare occasion which is obviously far from truth) or descriptive meaning (i.e. you dont expect Leta to lost). I think we have the second one. Ironically, the bolded part is "far from truth". I very much meant it in the first sense. It was not a mistake you see very often. In fact, I cannot recall another recent incident involving a progamer making such a big blunder. Keeping in mind that Flash's Turrets were static, Leta committed the entire action by himself. On August 22 2010 07:45 Heimatloser wrote: for me it seems like "top terran players have figured out a way to ALMOST beat Flash" ;-) Beat him in the early-/mid-game  | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On August 21 2010 00:52 DarkMatter_ wrote: Action and Leta are two of the weakest players out of the eight. It makes sense that they get set up against the two strongest players. I hope Jaedong, Stork, Zero and Flash make it out of their groups. Those semi-finals are going to be absolutely epic. They sound even more exciting than Flash vs. Fantasy and JD vs. Light. Meh, Action has top knotch ZvT. He definitely has one of the best ZvT skills around in the scene right now. It's a pity that he has to play his worst matchup against the person that is the best in said matchup. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Apparently likely enough. Maybe he just thought after the second time that Flash was relying solely on his crisis control there, and a bigger drops would be possibly enough to cripple flash and win the game. Turns out it wasn't. | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
On August 22 2010 07:14 Cambium wrote: Game 1 against Fantasy was skill and determination, this game was purely luck. Zero luck. Flash was just playing against a Terran of clearly inferior mental fortitude. LoLeta lost his nerves. Didn't scan Flash's base before dropships advanced. Decided on going ahead with drop then backing out at the last minute. The mark of a mentally shaky player. Last 30 minutes was LoLeta not really doing anything and Flash clawing his way back and forth to victory. Players like Flash and Jaedong and Stork aren't mentally shaken by set backs in the game. This is why I never had any faith in LoLeta for the longest time. | ||
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saltydeeds
United States15 Posts
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dani_caliKorea
730 Posts
On August 24 2010 12:40 saltydeeds wrote: Is there any way to tell who will be potentially playing who in the semi-finals?? Is it possible that JD and Flash would play each other then instead of in separate semis and thus not in the final? Jaedong vs. Sea/Stork Flash vs. Free/Zero | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
On August 24 2010 12:40 saltydeeds wrote: Is there any way to tell who will be potentially playing who in the semi-finals?? Is it possible that JD and Flash would play each other then instead of in separate semis and thus not in the final? isnt it obvious yet? jd vs flash now and forever | ||
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