EPT[OSL] Round of 8 - Day 1 - Page 41
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SubtleArt
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RoyW
Ireland270 Posts
On August 26 2010 23:59 SubtleArt wrote: Seems good for JAedong. Provided Sea loses, which he probably will to storks PvT, then Flash is the only terran he can run into. If he avoids flash then its an automatic trip to the finals. The way he's playing now, theres no way he's gonna lose to Zero, Free, or stork. Sea is a bit more of a tossup cause its ZvT Jaedong's record v stork is 9 - 10 altogether, 2-5 in past two years, and 0-3 is last year. + 10-02-20 Shinhan 2010 Winners .. Match Point Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Heartbreak Ridge Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Return of the King Loss + 09-07-04 Shinhan08-09 Proleague Destination Loss + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Tears of the Moon Win + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Sin Chupung-Ryeong Win + 09-03-06 Batoo OSL Return of the King Loss + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Othello Win + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Andromeda Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Blue Storm Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Fantasy II Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Katrina Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-11-02 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Sin Peaks of Baekdu Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Python Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Tau Cross Loss + 07-04-28 Shinhan07 Proleague R1 Python Loss + 07-01-27 4th CJ Superfight Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss | ||
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Ideas
United States8167 Posts
On August 27 2010 07:02 RoyW wrote: Jaedong's record v stork is 9 - 10 altogether, 2-5 in past two years, and 0-3 is last year. + 10-02-20 Shinhan 2010 Winners .. Match Point Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Heartbreak Ridge Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Return of the King Loss + 09-07-04 Shinhan08-09 Proleague Destination Loss + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Tears of the Moon Win + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Sin Chupung-Ryeong Win + 09-03-06 Batoo OSL Return of the King Loss + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Othello Win + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Andromeda Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Blue Storm Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Fantasy II Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Katrina Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-11-02 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Sin Peaks of Baekdu Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Python Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Tau Cross Loss + 07-04-28 Shinhan07 Proleague R1 Python Loss + 07-01-27 4th CJ Superfight Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss dont forget that in the WCG grand finals he actually beat stork though 2-1. | ||
Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On August 27 2010 07:08 Ideas wrote: dont forget that in the WCG grand finals he actually beat stork though 2-1. But in the 2008 Grand Finals, Stork beat Jaedong 2-1 in the quarterfinals. Regardless, Jaedong is the favorite, if only because his mental game is a lot stronger than Stork's. | ||
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Avidkeystamper
United States8556 Posts
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OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
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SubtleArt
2710 Posts
On August 27 2010 07:02 RoyW wrote: Jaedong's record v stork is 9 - 10 altogether, 2-5 in past two years, and 0-3 is last year. + 10-02-20 Shinhan 2010 Winners .. Match Point Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Heartbreak Ridge Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Return of the King Loss + 09-07-04 Shinhan08-09 Proleague Destination Loss + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Tears of the Moon Win + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Sin Chupung-Ryeong Win + 09-03-06 Batoo OSL Return of the King Loss + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Othello Win + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Andromeda Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Blue Storm Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Fantasy II Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Katrina Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-11-02 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Sin Peaks of Baekdu Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Python Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Tau Cross Loss + 07-04-28 Shinhan07 Proleague R1 Python Loss + 07-01-27 4th CJ Superfight Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss Until like a year ago ZvP was Jaedong's worst matchup, now its his best. Stork's PvZ, however. remains as shaky as before. On top of that Jaedong has elevated his game to a new level the past few months, while Stork has been fading. Advantage jaedong by far | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
On August 27 2010 07:02 RoyW wrote: Fair point, but in games that really mattered the score is 10-7 in Jaedong's favor (adding in WCGs; discounting WCG Korea finals) and if you count match results instead of individual game results, that becomes 4-1 for Jaedong (Stork won WCG 2008). You can't discount the tendency of Jaedong to step up when a lot is on the line, or of Stork to step down.Jaedong's record v stork is 9 - 10 altogether, 2-5 in past two years, and 0-3 is last year. + 10-02-20 Shinhan 2010 Winners .. Match Point Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Heartbreak Ridge Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Return of the King Loss + 09-07-04 Shinhan08-09 Proleague Destination Loss + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Tears of the Moon Win + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Sin Chupung-Ryeong Win + 09-03-06 Batoo OSL Return of the King Loss + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Othello Win + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Andromeda Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Blue Storm Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Fantasy II Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Katrina Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-11-02 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Sin Peaks of Baekdu Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Python Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Tau Cross Loss + 07-04-28 Shinhan07 Proleague R1 Python Loss + 07-01-27 4th CJ Superfight Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss | ||
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Yxes2211
United States1587 Posts
On August 27 2010 07:02 RoyW wrote: Jaedong's record v stork is 9 - 10 altogether, 2-5 in past two years, and 0-3 is last year. + 10-02-20 Shinhan 2010 Winners .. Match Point Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Heartbreak Ridge Loss + 09-08-29 WCG2009 Korea Return of the King Loss + 09-07-04 Shinhan08-09 Proleague Destination Loss + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Tears of the Moon Win + 09-03-13 Batoo OSL Sin Chupung-Ryeong Win + 09-03-06 Batoo OSL Return of the King Loss + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Othello Win + 08-08-17 WCG2008 Korea Andromeda Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Blue Storm Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Fantasy II Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Katrina Win + 07-12-22 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-11-02 EVER2007 OSL Persona Loss + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Sin Peaks of Baekdu Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Python Win + 07-08-12 Seoul e-Sports Festival Tau Cross Loss + 07-04-28 Shinhan07 Proleague R1 Python Loss + 07-01-27 4th CJ Superfight Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss Honestly, we are not far off from labeling JD's ZvP JvP, because its becoming as dominant as his ZvZ. I've been an advocate that Stork is the greatest threat to another JvF finals. He and JD are regular training partners, they are friends, and Stork is one of the few players who has a decent record against the best players playing right now. However, JD is the Bo5 guru, and his current play is unreal. Stork is not a player with superior mechanics, and wins off careful preparation and intelligent play, but at some point (especially in a Bo5) it will come down to mechanics and no protoss currently matches JD's ZvP game sense and mechanics. Sure JD may be 0-3 against Stork in the last year, he's also 26-5 in the last year in ZvP's. What's more, if Stork is his opponent, JD has a free schedule to prepare since the MSL finals are tomorrow. Major favor to JD if he meets Stork, but Stork remains a greater threat to JD than Sea i believe. | ||
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