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jgju
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States454 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:31:05
August 03 2010 01:29 GMT
#41
Arghhhh I Really Really Really want to make a stage adaptation of the finals, but it's at 1 in the morning where I live, and the day before i go on a 50 mile bike ride nonetheless >_<

What to do, What to do

Awesome OP, thanks a million to flamewheel and disciple.
"For you biting zealots, here's a quote" - Lauryn Hill
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:31:31
August 03 2010 01:31 GMT
#42
I think its time for Boxer to take Fantasy aside and train him nonstop till the day of the finals in case this goes to ace

Go SKT

SKT Zergs ftw! XDDDDD
Jaedong and Baby
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
August 03 2010 01:36 GMT
#43
I have no idea who will win this, but a (T)Fantasy/(T)Flash ACE would be absolutely sick.

I think KT has to win in six, because fantasy is charmed in proleague playoff ace matches, and because his TvT is pretty excellent anyway. Bisu fans need to realize who their team's ace is, btw, because it ain't the Revolutionist and his PvT.

That said, I think KT is capable of winning in six, because nothing I've seen from SKT these playoffs have convinced me that their zerg line can make a difference. If KT can pin down Bisu with Flash, BeSt with HoeJJa, or either of those with Violet, then they're in excellent shape. In fact, I think the potential match-ups are pretty KT favored. They have a very strong line against protoss and zerg. SKT would likely want Canata against Flash, fantasy against Violet or HoeJJa, Bisu against Tempest, and BeSt against forGG. But otherwise, I don't really like their other match-ups.
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 01:41:11
August 03 2010 01:40 GMT
#44
SKT1 zergs will do well. It's all on the shoulders of Bisu and Best to win one more Bo7.

No repeat of STX vs SKT1 Day 2, or KT will lose their reputation.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 02:34:07
August 03 2010 01:46 GMT
#45
HYPE!! Everyone is talking about Ace and to we all know its Just going to be 4-1

SoO < Flash = they will need him for a moral boost .. srsly

Fantasy > Tempest = KT will think that Best or Bisu will be sent out ..

Best > fOrGG = Because T1 wont be so dumb to place Bisu vs fOrGG right .. if Bisu wont get his PvT Game on .. he wont lift the Curse that is fOrGG

Bisu > FireFist = Sacrificial lamb .. anyone?? ??

its up to Hyuk/s2 > Violet/Stats .. if they wont Win it .. its gonna be a KT Win ..
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catabowl
Profile Joined November 2009
United States815 Posts
August 03 2010 01:56 GMT
#46
On August 03 2010 10:27 Sea.JustGod wrote:
My PrEDictIoNs:

(Z)Hyuk < New Heartbreak Ridge > (P)Violet

+ Show Spoiler +
SKT thought it as KT does not have good Zerg, will have the opportunity to place (Z)Hyuk without problems after what happened in the league winners

and the (P)Violet one being placed on Heartbreak Ridge


(T)Fantasy < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Stats

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everyone knows that (P)Stats put him in Polaris Rhapsody and the option of SKT for Polaris Rhapsody is (P)Bisu and (P)BeSt but they are pretty bad in PvP so that will decide the best option in vP and that serious (T)Fantasy


(Z)s2 < Fortress > (T)fOrGG

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it is more likely to place here to (T)fOrGG, but SKT is so stupid that puts a zerg to confront (T)fOrGG


(P)BeSt < Grand Line SE > (Z)HoeJJa

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)BeSt demonstrated strength in the final and could not express it enough against (Z)July


(T)Canata < Match Point > (T)Flash

+ Show Spoiler +
Just lol


(P)Bisu < Judgment Day > (P)Tempest

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Tempest is pretty god in this map (P)BISU NO!!!! (only for PvZ)


ACE:



Completely raped from the (P)Revolutionist!!!!! gogogoggogo

Again Champions !!!!! GGGGGGGGGGGG





No way those are the matches. Flash is not playing MP because Fantasy plays that map and KT is scared of him, no toss are playing on Judgement Day, and Fantasy beats Flash in Ace. :D
Jung! Myung! Hoooooooooooooooooon! #TeamPolt
Sea.JustGod
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
400 Posts
August 03 2010 02:00 GMT
#47
On August 03 2010 10:56 catabowl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2010 10:27 Sea.JustGod wrote:
My PrEDictIoNs:

(Z)Hyuk < New Heartbreak Ridge > (P)Violet

+ Show Spoiler +
SKT thought it as KT does not have good Zerg, will have the opportunity to place (Z)Hyuk without problems after what happened in the league winners

and the (P)Violet one being placed on Heartbreak Ridge


(T)Fantasy < Polaris Rhapsody > (P)Stats

+ Show Spoiler +
everyone knows that (P)Stats put him in Polaris Rhapsody and the option of SKT for Polaris Rhapsody is (P)Bisu and (P)BeSt but they are pretty bad in PvP so that will decide the best option in vP and that serious (T)Fantasy


(Z)s2 < Fortress > (T)fOrGG

+ Show Spoiler +
it is more likely to place here to (T)fOrGG, but SKT is so stupid that puts a zerg to confront (T)fOrGG


(P)BeSt < Grand Line SE > (Z)HoeJJa

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)BeSt demonstrated strength in the final and could not express it enough against (Z)July


(T)Canata < Match Point > (T)Flash

+ Show Spoiler +
Just lol


(P)Bisu < Judgment Day > (P)Tempest

+ Show Spoiler +
(P)Tempest is pretty god in this map (P)BISU NO!!!! (only for PvZ)


ACE:



Completely raped from the (P)Revolutionist!!!!! gogogoggogo

Again Champions !!!!! GGGGGGGGGGGG





No way those are the matches. Flash is not playing MP because Fantasy plays that map and KT is scared of him, no toss are playing on Judgement Day, and Fantasy beats Flash in Ace. :D


I really doubt
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
August 03 2010 02:02 GMT
#48
On August 03 2010 10:29 jgju wrote:
Arghhhh I Really Really Really want to make a stage adaptation of the finals, but it's at 1 in the morning where I live, and the day before i go on a 50 mile bike ride nonetheless >_<

What to do, What to do

Awesome OP, thanks a million to flamewheel and disciple.

Drop the bike, call a cab so at least you feel good about yourself traveling a distance of 50 mile. Get back home, take a cool shower, have dinner, play SC2 a bit (if you owe one), jerk off to 4chan then BAM!

SPL MOTHERFUCKING GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND FINAAAAAAAAAAAALUUUUUUUUUU~
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
Vasoline73
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7850 Posts
August 03 2010 02:03 GMT
#49
KT has this way easier than people realize barring major choking.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9802 Posts
August 03 2010 02:15 GMT
#50
3rd time posting the exact same predictions!
+ Show Spoiler [Predictions:] +

(Z)Hyuk < New Heartbreak Ridge > (P)Violet

KT knows that Fantasy has been playing a lot on the map, and tries to snipe him with violet, but gets hyuk'd instead. Hyuk goes for a muta bust, but somehow messes up his timing and scourge count, losing him the game.

SKT 0-1 KT

(P)Bisu < Polaris Rhapsody > (T)Flash

It's a fairly safe assumption to say that Bisu's going to be on Polaris Rhapsody, and Flash will overcome the slight P>T map imba to dominate after an underwhelming reaver opening.

SKT 0-2 KT

(P)BeSt < Fortress > (Z)HoeJJa

Things are looking grim for SKT, and BeSt gets thrown out because its not safe to leave players open to be sniped later on. KT expects either him or fantasy, and decides to sac HoeJJa and hope that it's BeSt. But after losing his first shuttle, BeSt goes into autopilot and rolls over the hydra army with well-micro'd reavers and precise storms.

SKT 1-2 KT

(Z)s2 < Grand Line SE > (P)Stats

With only s2, canata, and fantasy left (since (Z)n.die_soO sucks horribly and nobody expects him to appear), KT chooses to send a protoss instead of their mediocre zergs, saving fOrGG for a map he's more comfortable with. s2 is 70% vP. GG Stats.

SKT 2-2 KT

(T)Canata < Match Point > (T)fOrGG

SKT knows fOrGG is still out there, and is unwilling to send their zergs or B-teamers. Canata goes out on a map where he is 0-5, and retains his status as 30-minute man. At least its a brilliant game with constant back and forth aggression and both players mine out on 2 bases.

SKT 2-3 KT

(T)FanTaSy < Judgment Day > (P)Tempest

We know fantasy's coming. KT doesn't have many choices left either, with the only viable choices being (Z)815, (T)BarrackS, (Z)FireFist and Tempest. Fantasy plays catch-up the whole game using a FD vs 12nex, but through consistent vulture harass and tank drops (destroying Tempest's gas nat twice), he wins through a macro game, utilizing the terran death ball.

SKT 3-3 KT

(P)BeSt < Fighting Spirit > (T)Flash

No way in hell will KT risk sending out a sub-Flash player. Not even to try and snipe BeSt. Flash opens 1-rax FE on close positions, and BeSt prepares, to everyone's surprise, a bull-dog. Flash scouts the wrong way, and gets it denied, unable to see if BeSt had even expanded. The bulldog itself is only partially successful, however. 2 zealots die inside the shuttle and the trade-off is fairly even. But then BeSt's second shuttle with a reaver and dragoon begins its work, getting a total of 14 SCV kills. This provides the edge BeSt needs and rolls Flash 6 base to 3. To Flash's credit, he held off a lot longer than he should have, with brilliant EMPs and recall denies. As he GGs watching his last push die, BeSt walks out with a badass swagger, and performs a ceremony for the ages. Nice try KT, but the Masters of the Universe are just what their title implies.

SKT 4-3 KT
+ Show Spoiler +
can i just say that if I happen to be right in everything that i didn't rig the matches?

BeSt can totally take flash, he's got no chance.... well maybe a little. BUT NOT ENOUGH! DOH JAE WOOK FIGHTING
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Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
August 03 2010 02:24 GMT
#51
KT ROLSTER FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE YELLOW CURSE SHALL END
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Zhang
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States129 Posts
August 03 2010 02:41 GMT
#52
carrotshirts > KTRofl
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
August 03 2010 02:51 GMT
#53
There's no way in hell Bisu is going to be sent for Ace. Most likely Fantasy with a slight chance of Best being sent. Flash would destroy Bisu if they ever meet up.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8167 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 02:55:24
August 03 2010 02:54 GMT
#54
I really wonder who SKT will send out for an ace match. probably fantasy but even with flash's huge string of TvT ace match loses, I assume he's figured out his holes by now. best is probably their best vs T player on paper, but flash will probably roll him. bisu usually plays on a whole other level vs flash (like when he plays vs jaedong) and was able to beat him last year in the WCG, but his vs T has been pretty fucking subpar lately.

it's probably 70/30 between fantasy and bisu for ace options, with fantasy in lead. The only reason I still consider bisu an option is because he always brings his absolute a-game vs flash and jaedong (at least in proleague and over the last year).
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Vivi57
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States6599 Posts
August 03 2010 03:04 GMT
#55
kt 4-0

ONE TIME!
Flash hwaiting! Nal_rA forever!
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
August 03 2010 03:04 GMT
#56
The SKT zergs will be much more of a threat to a team which doesn't have strong zergs of its own. Still, KT has had the entire time to relax and practice, and has tons of games from SKT's playoff runs to study in preparation. While SKT's players are definitely in the mood and attitude, and riding the momentum from their playoff run.

KT in its current form is a much stronger opponent than Hwaseung was last year, and perhaps SKT's current shape isn't necessarily much better a year ago. (Best is probably a bit stronger, especially against zerg (going from terrible to okay), Bisu is a lot weaker, and Fantasy is probably around the same. Hyuk's lost his ZvZ in favor of a better ZvP, while s2 is decent and soo still pretty weak.)

KT's tosses have been showing some strength in individual leagues, though. We'll see soon enough if KT's supporting cast is enough to take SKT on.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
August 03 2010 03:08 GMT
#57
It's all about choosing the good game to send a sacrificial lamb against (T)Flash. It would be stupid to send F/B/B against (T)Flash, lose anyway, and leave the T1 zerg scrubs as autowins for (T)fOrGG/(P)Stats.
Maybe they should send (T)Canata against (T)Flash to try some stupid cheese, and then F/B/B will do the job. T1 zergs have a decent shot at winning a ZvZ vs (Z)FireFist/(Z)HoeJJa, so I predict SKT 4-2 KT !
ॐ
JL13
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1384 Posts
August 03 2010 03:16 GMT
#58
Coach Park is so awesome lol. Charismatic and ridiculously effective at getting the best from his players when it counts. After beating CJ, I really can't imagine SKT1 losing to any other team. Wemade's single match win was some fluke or something along the lines of Fox playing amazing and SKT just not caring >.>

Quoted from Interview translation

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- Compared to KT, where does SKT’s strength lie?

▲ We have more experience at KwangAnRi compared to KT. Our players were present at the finals last year, this is a very important point. I still remember when I participated in the finals as the team leader. It is, however, the first time that KT’s players will be participating in the finals, so I question whether they’ll be able to show all their strength. I’ll make sure KT’s nightmare of being the runner-ups will continue.


LOL burn . . .
Favorite Progamers in order: JangBi, Kwanro, Really, DarkElf
trulla
Profile Joined February 2010
Chile303 Posts
August 03 2010 03:16 GMT
#59
damn i think i will miss this =(

i'd love to see flash vs best

is this 3 series or just 1 series in big finals?
Sea[Shield] !!
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-03 03:46:43
August 03 2010 03:17 GMT
#60
The Revolutionist

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

..is about to be crushed.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
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