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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 18 2010 04:44 GMT
#381
On July 18 2010 13:42 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 13:41 Zona wrote:
On July 18 2010 13:38 aidnai wrote:
iris should have defended, not pushed the nat. He was fighting a 2 hatch muta build, he had the econ advantage (even with the third coming up, he would be mostly even)... bad decision making imo.

3 hatch, not 2.
Both players opened greedy, but s2 even moreso (Iris's faster expo was a result of his scouting s2's build, after all).
But I agree, it wasn't wise to counter with a sunken break when muta mobility means they can both attack and defend much more easily than mnm can.


what was greedy about Iris' fast wall in? O_o

CC before rine - obviously not as greedy as possible, but it was a response, not a preplanned action.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Anxiety
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States650 Posts
July 18 2010 04:45 GMT
#382
On July 18 2010 13:44 dukethegold wrote:
I got my essay due in 24 hours and I don't care. I want to watch this.


YEA! Screw homework, starcraft is so much better. No sarcasm.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 04:50:24
July 18 2010 04:45 GMT
#383
If Iris had used his marines to attack, defend OR kill the third he would have had a chance in that game. All he used them for there was to run around in the middle like idiots while his base got raped.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 18 2010 04:46 GMT
#384
Wow, that room escape game on the cellphone looks pretty good.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
July 18 2010 04:46 GMT
#385
On July 18 2010 13:45 Weasel- wrote:
If Iris had used his mutas to attack, defend OR kill the third he would have had a chance in that game. All he used them for there was to run around in the middle like idiots while his base got raped.

I think you meant marines
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
QibingZero
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
2611 Posts
July 18 2010 04:47 GMT
#386
I'm really trying to imagine what could have made that game worse than it was, and I'm drawing a blank. Iris is not the type of player to half-ass something like that.

I mean, it just looked like a really low skill game. S2 making a bunch of little errors in his macro and then winning without any real effort because Iris danced around in the middle of the map doing nothing.
Oh, my eSports
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
July 18 2010 04:47 GMT
#387
FFFF JUST WOKE UP

BUT FEELING GREAT SEEING SKYHIGH > fantasy already lolo
iris though..
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
July 18 2010 04:47 GMT
#388
Iris coulda done better
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
renzy
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada781 Posts
July 18 2010 04:47 GMT
#389
This coming from a T1 fan: I really dont know what Iris was doing...deciding to attack AFTER the two sunkens are finished instead of attacking while they are morphing. Honestly his forces were just outside s2's natural waiting...for the sunkens to be finished....lol
Bisu is the man
nuke_rush
Profile Joined November 2009
Hong Kong126 Posts
July 18 2010 04:47 GMT
#390
who do you think's playing next
i'd put a fair guess on canata or best
Battlecruiser operational | still can't decide which team i like
Noxide
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2870 Posts
July 18 2010 04:48 GMT
#391
Judgement day should just go with a zerg imo.
Flash ひなの戦争の王である || しかし、実際にはヤフーの ファンタジーサッカー、楽しいプレー私の週末を占めている
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 18 2010 04:49 GMT
#392
replay makes iris look like a noob
beep boop
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 18 2010 04:49 GMT
#393
Only three turrets made at the natural...

What did Iris try to fend off with only three turrets?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
July 18 2010 04:49 GMT
#394
On July 18 2010 13:42 tree.hugger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 13:38 aidnai wrote:
iris should have defended, not pushed the nat. He was fighting a 2 hatch muta build, he had the econ advantage (even with the third coming up, he would be mostly even)... bad decision making imo.

Haha, s2 went three hatch before pool, tried a hydra fake (which I don't think was particularly effective) and THEN went mutas. Pretty much nothing like two hatch mutas.

Iris' mistake was obvious there, he didn't move out early when he should've, and didn't hang back later when he needed to. His army was never in the right place.


Thanks, missed the third hatch (prolly reading this thread). But, he was on two bases when he went for mutas, so economically, I think I was still right?
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 18 2010 04:49 GMT
#395
God damn that was the worst played TvZ I have ever seen wtf
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
July 18 2010 04:50 GMT
#396
On July 18 2010 13:49 7mk wrote:
replay makes iris look like a noob

I don't know why he waited so long, what was he waiting for? He scanned the nat, saw two sunkens and two more morphing in. That was his chance right there.
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
July 18 2010 04:50 GMT
#397
HYUK VS Z

EFFORT INC????
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
July 18 2010 04:50 GMT
#398
On July 18 2010 13:46 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 13:45 Weasel- wrote:
If Iris had used his mutas to attack, defend OR kill the third he would have had a chance in that game. All he used them for there was to run around in the middle like idiots while his base got raped.

I think you meant marines

Yes, yes I did, lol.
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 18 2010 04:50 GMT
#399
Cheers as the camera focuses on s2.

Cheers for SKT so far seem to come from more people, but are softer overall.
Cheers for CJ are louder, but with fewer voices.

Hmm, the moments the mutas attacked Iris's nat he should have returned home with his mnm. The three turrets weren't going to hold s2 back for long, and on top of that - he had like no turrets in his main either, so withdrawing from his nat to his main wouldn't have bought him any time.

Hyuk up next! vs Zerg!
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
July 18 2010 04:50 GMT
#400
nice choice Hyuk!! I hope he will do well!! gogogoog!!!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
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