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prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
July 18 2010 07:20 GMT
#2081
On July 18 2010 16:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:16 OneOther wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:15 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:13 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:10 bearbuddy wrote:
CJ had pretty good match-ups today. I don't think Iris has much left in the tank.


whats good matchups for us apart from Skyhigh TvT?

best pvz
effort zvz
snow pvsoo


well I can return that

hydra zvp
movie pvp
snow pvz

ok so now we know that there's no point in talking about matchups because each side got some of what they wanted


I guess that's what SuperArc was trying to point out :p

but his first response made it sound like CJ only got lucky in one matchup, which was skyhigh's TvT
( ・´ー・`)
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 18 2010 07:20 GMT
#2082
On July 18 2010 16:19 King K. Rool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:18 Lachrymose wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:11 konadora wrote:
fantasy saying he played and practiced even harder to reduce the burden and pressure on bisu when he was slumping haha


what a champ. <3

ahahahahaha

Batoo OSL: Silver
Incruit OSL: Silver

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Just butthurt here
08-09 Proleague: Gold
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6124 Posts
July 18 2010 07:21 GMT
#2083
When a Terran resorts to goliaths in TvZ they are saying:

"I have no micro skills, so I'll rather attack move"
#1 Terran hater
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 07:22:17
July 18 2010 07:21 GMT
#2084
On July 18 2010 16:19 checo wrote:
SKT T1 play 3 zergs on playoff a few months before... Many of us would had said=> This is madness!!!!


Looking a their record 1-5 - this isnt madness...?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 18 2010 07:23 GMT
#2085
On July 18 2010 16:20 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:16 OneOther wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:15 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:13 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:10 bearbuddy wrote:
CJ had pretty good match-ups today. I don't think Iris has much left in the tank.


whats good matchups for us apart from Skyhigh TvT?

best pvz
effort zvz
snow pvsoo


well I can return that

hydra zvp
movie pvp
snow pvz

ok so now we know that there's no point in talking about matchups because each side got some of what they wanted


I guess that's what SuperArc was trying to point out :p

but his first response made it sound like CJ only got lucky in one matchup, which was skyhigh's TvT


Yeah and if you look at stuff like Best PvZ <-> Hydra ZvP
youll realise that CJ didnt really get lucky.
Also why do people always talk about stupid CJ getting lucky when there's a Coach behind this team carefully picking players for each map
beep boop
Ryusei-R1
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States2106 Posts
July 18 2010 07:23 GMT
#2086
lol, the first thing that came to mind when I saw Effort run smack into that supply depot wall was that motivational poster about walls being OctZerg's greatest enemy.

Then I read the OP and laughed.
Jaedong plz
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
July 18 2010 07:23 GMT
#2087
I personally liked Bisu's game the best, but Fantasy takes daily MVP...
Also, in the interviews, anybody notice how Best is constantly brushing his eyes? Maybe he has slight eye irritation or problems?
[TLMS] REBOOT
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3048 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 07:24:20
July 18 2010 07:24 GMT
#2088
On July 18 2010 07:08 tree.hugger wrote:
Results:
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[image loading]


Hoping for a EffOrt beatdown of Bisu, and a Snow battle with Fantasy, like everyone else.

EDIT: Ignore the poster after me, he is lying.

[image loading]
Whoops, sorry Paul. You were wrong.
ppp
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 18 2010 07:24 GMT
#2089
On July 18 2010 16:23 Ryusei-R1 wrote:
lol, the first thing that came to mind when I saw Effort run smack into that supply depot wall was that motivational poster about walls being OctZerg's greatest enemy.

Then I read the OP and laughed.


haha nice :D
beep boop
SchOOl_VicTIm
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Greece2394 Posts
July 18 2010 07:24 GMT
#2090
On July 18 2010 04:43 disciple wrote:
[image loading]

(T)Fantasy < (T)sKyHigh
(Z)s2 > (T)Iris
(Z)Hyuk < (Z)EffOrt
(P)BeSt > (Z)Hydra
(Z)n.Die_soO < (P)Snow
(P)Bisu > (P)Movie
(T)Fantasy > (Z)OctZerg




loool ahhahahaha
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 07:27:04
July 18 2010 07:26 GMT
#2091
On July 18 2010 16:24 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 07:08 tree.hugger wrote:
Results:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Hoping for a EffOrt beatdown of Bisu, and a Snow battle with Fantasy, like everyone else.

EDIT: Ignore the poster after me, he is lying.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

Whoops, sorry Paul. You were wrong.

Remember that one time Paul was wrong? This is that time in StarCraft.
FBB and s2 wins, my 4 favorite SKT players <3.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
July 18 2010 07:26 GMT
#2092
On July 18 2010 16:23 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:20 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:16 OneOther wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:15 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:13 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:10 bearbuddy wrote:
CJ had pretty good match-ups today. I don't think Iris has much left in the tank.


whats good matchups for us apart from Skyhigh TvT?

best pvz
effort zvz
snow pvsoo


well I can return that

hydra zvp
movie pvp
snow pvz

ok so now we know that there's no point in talking about matchups because each side got some of what they wanted


I guess that's what SuperArc was trying to point out :p

but his first response made it sound like CJ only got lucky in one matchup, which was skyhigh's TvT


Yeah and if you look at stuff like Best PvZ <-> Hydra ZvP
youll realise that CJ didnt really get lucky.
Also why do people always talk about stupid CJ getting lucky when there's a Coach behind this team carefully picking players for each map

ok fine, you're right

skt coach is just better than cj coach
( ・´ー・`)
fly.stat
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States449 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-18 07:48:27
July 18 2010 07:27 GMT
#2093
On July 18 2010 16:18 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:12 fly.stat wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:08 7mk wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:05 fly.stat wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:51 7mk wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:49 fly.stat wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:42 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:40 fly.stat wrote:
Fantasy....god I hate that pick.

CJ's obviously going to send out effort, and bisu has been wrecking zergs lately. Maybe skt1 trying to be unpredictable? I don't know, but I hope this doesn't mark the end of SKT1 in the playoffs.

unpredictable? skt always sends fantasy out for ace matches...

i dunno why everyone's suddenly hating on fantasy now that bisu is performing well... it's like all the fanboys came out in hiding, and this is coming from a bisu fanboy as well


This isn't hating on fantasy, and it's not about being a Bisu fanboy, it's just that everyone knew CJ would send out Effort. Why would you send out Fantasy, who's probably already shaken up by losing twice, in his worst match up, against a great ZvT? It only makes sense that you would send out someone like Bisu, given his recent PvZ performance, to make it to day 3.


Please do you think SKT coaches are stupid? they have their reasons. Reason #1: Fantasy was preparing his ass off for this ace match with a special strategy, they are not gonna throw this all away because he lost to skyhigh



Just because the coaches selected him for the ace match, and had him prepare a "special" strategy for Effort doesn't mean that he was the right player before they told him to start practicing.


Well if you bring up that argument, then your argument of "they shouldnt send him cuz he lost to skyhigh twice" immediately doesnt make sense anymore. Use your head yo
Plus he was obviously the right one to send for that map, its not even good for PvZ.

gg


Sorry but you and I know that wasn't my entire argument. Also, I don't use "cuz".
Done here.


Oh my gosh I'm so sorry I paraphrased instead of quoting you.
It wasn't your entire argument but does that mean I can't point out when two of your arguments contradict each other?


You're right, regardless of whether or not the player selected to play against effort in the ace won their game(s), it shouldn't have anything to do with the decision to play them, since they've been practicing long beforehand. So I admit that his losing against skyhigh twice is ultimately irrelevant.

But I would've still told Bisu to prepare for ace instead of Fantasy for the other reasons.

Can I now type gg and declare myself the winner in this unwinnable conversation? It would make me feel awesome/gosu/like a man.
Until I write you again, take care of your precious person.
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
July 18 2010 07:27 GMT
#2094
this reminds me of the OZ team where they need non-jd to win a game to take it to ace

we need a zerg to win 1 to win ==
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
gorchiza
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Bulgaria200 Posts
July 18 2010 07:28 GMT
#2095
The GLORY will be our again !!!
http://www.youtube.com/user/GORCHIZA?feature=mhee
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
July 18 2010 07:28 GMT
#2096
On July 18 2010 16:23 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:20 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:16 OneOther wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:15 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:13 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:10 bearbuddy wrote:
CJ had pretty good match-ups today. I don't think Iris has much left in the tank.


whats good matchups for us apart from Skyhigh TvT?

best pvz
effort zvz
snow pvsoo


well I can return that

hydra zvp
movie pvp
snow pvz

ok so now we know that there's no point in talking about matchups because each side got some of what they wanted


I guess that's what SuperArc was trying to point out :p

but his first response made it sound like CJ only got lucky in one matchup, which was skyhigh's TvT


Yeah and if you look at stuff like Best PvZ <-> Hydra ZvP
youll realise that CJ didnt really get lucky.
Also why do people always talk about stupid CJ getting lucky when there's a Coach behind this team carefully picking players for each map


Lol, calm down a bit. I said CJ got good matchups, meaning that looking at the lineups alone they are favored to win the games today. Didn't say anything about getting lucky, just disappointed that some CJ players didn't play up to par.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 18 2010 07:29 GMT
#2097
On July 18 2010 16:26 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:23 7mk wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:20 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:16 OneOther wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:15 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:13 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:10 bearbuddy wrote:
CJ had pretty good match-ups today. I don't think Iris has much left in the tank.


whats good matchups for us apart from Skyhigh TvT?

best pvz
effort zvz
snow pvsoo


well I can return that

hydra zvp
movie pvp
snow pvz

ok so now we know that there's no point in talking about matchups because each side got some of what they wanted


I guess that's what SuperArc was trying to point out :p

but his first response made it sound like CJ only got lucky in one matchup, which was skyhigh's TvT


Yeah and if you look at stuff like Best PvZ <-> Hydra ZvP
youll realise that CJ didnt really get lucky.
Also why do people always talk about stupid CJ getting lucky when there's a Coach behind this team carefully picking players for each map

ok fine, you're right

skt coach is just better than cj coach


Yes I think today the SKT coach might have might better decisions

Then again I shouldnt take your post serious because its only to incite and be a dick since you probably havent suddenly changed your opinion 180° of MUs being CJ favoured to MUs being SKT favoured.
beep boop
doubleupgradeobbies!
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia1361 Posts
July 18 2010 07:30 GMT
#2098
Fuck yeah SKT
MSL, 2003-2011, RIP. OSL, 2000-2012, RIP. Proleague, 2003-2012, RIP. And then there was none... Even good things must come to an end.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
July 18 2010 07:31 GMT
#2099
On July 18 2010 16:27 fly.stat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:18 7mk wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:12 fly.stat wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:08 7mk wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:05 fly.stat wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:51 7mk wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:49 fly.stat wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:42 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 15:40 fly.stat wrote:
Fantasy....god I hate that pick.

CJ's obviously going to send out effort, and bisu has been wrecking zergs lately. Maybe skt1 trying to be unpredictable? I don't know, but I hope this doesn't mark the end of SKT1 in the playoffs.

unpredictable? skt always sends fantasy out for ace matches...

i dunno why everyone's suddenly hating on fantasy now that bisu is performing well... it's like all the fanboys came out in hiding, and this is coming from a bisu fanboy as well


This isn't hating on fantasy, and it's not about being a Bisu fanboy, it's just that everyone knew CJ would send out Effort. Why would you send out Fantasy, who's probably already shaken up by losing twice, in his worst match up, against a great ZvT? It only makes sense that you would send out someone like Bisu, given his recent PvZ performance, to make it to day 3.


Please do you think SKT coaches are stupid? they have their reasons. Reason #1: Fantasy was preparing his ass off for this ace match with a special strategy, they are not gonna throw this all away because he lost to skyhigh



Just because the coaches selected him for the ace match, and had him prepare a "special" strategy for Effort doesn't mean that he was the right player before they told him to start practicing.


Well if you bring up that argument, then your argument of "they shouldnt send him cuz he lost to skyhigh twice" immediately doesnt make sense anymore. Use your head yo
Plus he was obviously the right one to send for that map, its not even good for PvZ.

gg


Sorry but you and I know that wasn't my entire argument. Also, I don't use "cuz".
Done here.


Oh my gosh I'm so sorry I paraphrased instead of quoting you.
It wasn't your entire argument but does that mean I can't point out when two of your arguments contradict each other?


It's not two, it's one. You're right, regardless of whether or not the player selected to play against effort in the ace won their game(s), it shouldn't have anything to do with the decision to play them, since they've been practicing long beforehand. So I admit that his losing against skyhigh twice is ultimately irrelevant.

But I would've still told Bisu to prepare for ace instead of Fantasy for the other reasons.

Can I now type gg and declare myself the winner in this unwinnable conversation? It would make me feel awesome/gosu/like a man.


I dont get your first sentence. One argument contradicting each other? Maybe it just doesnt make sense to me because of my lack of english.

ok gg I dont wanna make anyone not feel awesome ^^
beep boop
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
July 18 2010 07:33 GMT
#2100
On July 18 2010 16:29 7mk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 16:26 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:23 7mk wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:20 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:16 OneOther wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:15 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:13 prototype. wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:11 SuperArc wrote:
On July 18 2010 16:10 bearbuddy wrote:
CJ had pretty good match-ups today. I don't think Iris has much left in the tank.


whats good matchups for us apart from Skyhigh TvT?

best pvz
effort zvz
snow pvsoo


well I can return that

hydra zvp
movie pvp
snow pvz

ok so now we know that there's no point in talking about matchups because each side got some of what they wanted


I guess that's what SuperArc was trying to point out :p

but his first response made it sound like CJ only got lucky in one matchup, which was skyhigh's TvT


Yeah and if you look at stuff like Best PvZ <-> Hydra ZvP
youll realise that CJ didnt really get lucky.
Also why do people always talk about stupid CJ getting lucky when there's a Coach behind this team carefully picking players for each map

ok fine, you're right

skt coach is just better than cj coach


Yes I think today the SKT coach might have might better decisions

Then again I shouldnt take your post serious because its only to incite and be a dick since you probably havent suddenly changed your opinion 180° of MUs being CJ favoured to MUs being SKT favoured.

I actually thought that the matchups for both teams were pretty much even. So you're probably right about me being a dick.

Lets just agree to disagree then since the possibility of us changing each other's opinion is most likely zero.
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