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rainei
Profile Joined November 2009
Canada1316 Posts
July 01 2010 09:58 GMT
#441
Wat. queen?
All aboard the HSY fanboat/train/ whatever form of transportation you desire!! Everyday is Sojin day
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 09:59:15
July 01 2010 09:59 GMT
#442
queen! s2 is being ballsy
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
July 01 2010 09:59 GMT
#443
On July 01 2010 18:58 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Wow deja vous! Where have I seen this before. Exactly this.

déjà vu you mean...
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
McDonalds
Profile Joined March 2010
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
July 01 2010 09:59 GMT
#444
On July 01 2010 18:54 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 18:53 McDonalds wrote:
On July 01 2010 18:50 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
On July 01 2010 18:47 McDonalds wrote:
On July 01 2010 18:46 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Not sure why people would want somebody like s2 to advance who is only 90% likely to lose in the following round. All the top seeds should advance to make the deeper rounds that much more exciting. I'm all for an upset, but in the first round simply denies us the opportunity of future good series... no offense to s2.


You might as well not even have a tournament then.


Clearly that's what my post indicates... Hi Mr. Strawman, how are you doing today?


Just admit that you didn't have a point. It's a competition and the people who win move on. S2 might not have a great chance of winning the tournament but if he wins this match then in what way are you justified in thinking that Flash would make the tournament more exciting?


He never said that the winner doesn't deserve to move on. He's simply saying the MSL is more likely to be exciting with Flash advancing than S2. Do you really disagree?


He said that people who were not seeded from the last tournament should not move on. If Flash loses to S2 then I don't see how his presence would make the rest of the tournament any more exciting. He's only saying that because his expectation was that Flash would do well. If he loses then he hasn't done well. End of story.
High five :---)
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 01 2010 09:59 GMT
#445
Tank parasitu.
My strategy is to fork people.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66363 Posts
July 01 2010 09:59 GMT
#446
parasite on tank

vultures raping 12 oclock
POGGERS
aznhockeyboy16
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States558 Posts
July 01 2010 09:59 GMT
#447
QUEEEN!!!
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 01 2010 10:00 GMT
#448
Parasite on the lone tank.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
July 01 2010 10:00 GMT
#449
unless thats for ensare, the queen is overestimating.
InRaged
Profile Joined February 2007
1047 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 10:15:39
July 01 2010 10:00 GMT
#450
On July 01 2010 18:47 darktreb wrote:
Flash hasn't been playing up to his standard lately and this game was no exception. It was not like he played perfectly but it wasn't like he played poorly either. I'm definitely not trying to claim that you need something as significant as a metagame shift to beat Flash, especially the way he's playing right now....

Flash played this game perfectly up to his standards what are you talking about? He executed very clean counter to 2h lurker... meanwhile effort was getting super fast 3rd and Hive. When he realized what's going on it was to late for him to come back.
It was a mindgame loss, nothing else.

On July 01 2010 18:49 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 18:47 InRaged wrote:
On July 01 2010 18:39 scrubtastic wrote:
agreeing with darktreb here - it's not so much the opening (although that was pretty sick as well, played flash like a fiddle) as it was the crushing of flash when he overextended, instead of trying to outexpand flash.

Flash couldn't actually defend those 3rd/4th bases so easily (yet) but I haven't seen other zergs take much advantage of that.

Effort? Did. Very well controlled defilers + lings did significant damage to Flash's bases and the drop in the main was the nail in the coffin

What outexpanding are you talking about? Zergs outexpand only when they play against mech turtle. 4 gases is all you need to fight bio terran and getting them for a good 5 minutes before terran gets his 3rd (and when on top of that terran is very low on vessels count) is an insta GG.


No it's not. It used to be insta-GG but it hasn't been for awhile now that Terrans have gotten better at clawing their way back into it with the Tank transition. There are plenty of games over the past 6 months where Terran has been able to do it. Flash vs Calm in the OSL semifinals was the most prominent example of this that really set a trend though it had happened before that as well (as early as Fantasy vs Jaedong on Outsider in last year's PL finals in fact).

Are these games 4 base hive zerg vs 2 base bio terran with late vessels?
khellian
Profile Joined February 2010
Korea (South)922 Posts
July 01 2010 10:00 GMT
#451
Damn, that lurkerpush could have done so much more damage.
Ota Solgryn
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark2011 Posts
July 01 2010 10:01 GMT
#452
On July 01 2010 18:59 Itachii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 18:58 Ota Solgryn wrote:
Wow deja vous! Where have I seen this before. Exactly this.

déjà vu you mean...


Yes, yes. Now lets move on.
ihasaKAROT: "Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others"
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 01 2010 10:01 GMT
#453
Flash saccing his vulture to kill drones.

He's clearly not planning to push any time soon, but wants S2 not to get a fourth for a while.
My strategy is to fork people.
darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
July 01 2010 10:01 GMT
#454
what are the results so far?
#1 Kim Taek Yong Fan <3 || Legend of the Fall // Fall of the Legend
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
July 01 2010 10:01 GMT
#455
On July 01 2010 18:56 Warrior Madness wrote:
Man... This shows me more than anything that flash is still so scary. The lone zerg player he consistently loses to is effort. He can 3-0 the best zerg ever, the greatest series player of all time, in the finals of a "starleague" and make it look effortless. Effort can beat him though. But even when effort DOES beat flash, he seems to use some sort of weird build, or timing that flash isn't used to dealing with. Effort has to play immaculately and with perfect cunning to squeak a win by flash.


whats wrong with "weird builds" ? he just was smarter this game , thats all, this is how its must be done to win always!
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
July 01 2010 10:02 GMT
#456
Flash > CLassic
Effort > s2

Effort > Flash

S2 > Classic

Flash vs S2 currently
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 10:02:49
July 01 2010 10:02 GMT
#457
Would anyone mind telling me what the results are in the group so far?

Edit: Nm, got beaten to it.
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 01 2010 10:02 GMT
#458
There's a reason that guy's name is madness, just watch the game and stop letting yourself be trolled please.
My strategy is to fork people.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
July 01 2010 10:02 GMT
#459
On July 01 2010 19:01 darkemperor wrote:
what are the results so far?

Flash > Classic
Effort > S2
Effort > Flash
S2 > Classic
S2 = Flash
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
July 01 2010 10:03 GMT
#460
Zerg on four bases, has hydras + muta flock. Flash on three bases, has mech + vessel.
My strategy is to fork people.
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