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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 11:41:29
July 01 2010 01:41 GMT
#1
[image loading]
08:00 GMT (+00:00)

Game 1: (T)Flash vs (T)Classic on Triathlon
Game 2: (Z)EffOrt vs (Z)s2 on Polaris Rhapsody
Game 3: Winner of Game 1 vs Winner of Game 2 on Fighting Spirit
Game 4: Loser of Game 1 vs Loser of Game 2 on Fighting Spirit
Game 5: Loser of Game 3 vs Winner of Game 4 on Odd-Eye 3
The winners of games 3 and 5 advance to the MSL round of 16.





(T)Flash is without a doubt the best Starcraft player right now, and a huge favorite to win the MSL. He has no weak matchups. He's gone on double-digit win streaks in TvT and TvZ, and took out nearly every Protoss teams could throw at him in Winner's League. The last time a finals not involving him was held was last August. Although he has been slumping in proleague, going 1-6 in his last 7 ace matches, 5 of those losses were against Terrans, and the only Terran in his group is...

(T)Classic is a new Terran player for eSTRO who made his way onto their A-team following the retirements of (T)UpMaGiC and (P)SangHo. He has a solid record of 10-5 in televised games, although his only notable win was using M&M as well as firebats to defeat (P)BeSt on Tornado last fall. [VOD] With big names like Flash and EffOrt in the group, it would be an upset if Classic made it out.

(Z)EffOrt is the defending OSL champion who defeated Flash in an epic 3-2 comeback. Flash responded by picking EffOrt into his MSL round of 32 group in an attempt to get a revenge win. While EffOrt has a nearly 75% win rate against Protoss, he never gets any Protoss in his groups and as such rarely advances from individual leagues. His ZvT and ZvZ matchups are very inconsistent. If he brings his best play, he could advance 2-0, and if he brings his worst, he could be eliminated 0-2.

(Z)s2 was the number four overall draft for SK Telecom T1 in an attempt to revive their Zerg lineup, drafted ahead of (Z)hero, (Z)great, and (Z)ZerO. For the most part, s2 has delivered 3 years of mediocrity, although he has shown signs of improvement lately with wins against (T)sKyHigh, (P)Stork, and (T)Leta. This is a tough group for even a slightly improved s2, and even a ZvZ coinflip upset against Effort will leave him one win short of making the round of 16.




+ Show Spoiler [Predictions] +
(T)Flash > (T)Classic
(Z)EffOrt < (Z)s2
(T)Flash > (Z)s2
(T)Classic > (Z)EffOrt
(T)Classic > (Z)s2


+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
(T)Flash > (T)Classic
(Z)EffOrt > (Z)s2
(T)Flash < (Z)EffOrt
(T)Classic < (Z)s2
(T)Flash > (Z)s2

(T)Flash and (Z)EffOrt advance!


+ Show Spoiler [Recommended Games] +
Poll: Game of the Night?

Winner's Game (27)
 
82%

Flash vs Classic (4)
 
12%

s2 vs Effort (1)
 
3%

Final Game (1)
 
3%

Loser's Game (0)
 
0%

33 total votes

Your vote: Game of the Night?

(Vote): Flash vs Classic
(Vote): s2 vs Effort
(Vote): Winner's Game
(Vote): Loser's Game
(Vote): Final Game

.




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Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
July 01 2010 01:44 GMT
#2
Nice, can't wait to see who will take it home
▲ ▲ ▲
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
July 01 2010 01:46 GMT
#3
I want Flash to go 0-2, that would be pretty huge upset! And oh imagine if BOTH Flash and Jaedong got knocked out on the same day. Then ANYONE can take the MSL!
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 01 2010 01:48 GMT
#4
wow group of death much? i remember classics game vs best
deep 5 sup?

Flash and Effort easy. But s2 could give effort a bit of trouble
his ZvZ isnt bad
cw)minsean(ru
BrowneY
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
40 Posts
July 01 2010 01:52 GMT
#5
I'm getting a feeling that there will be an upset tonight... Perhaps Flash or Effort. I'm hoping for Flash to cross into Ro16, as well as Effort, but anything can happen.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
July 01 2010 01:54 GMT
#6
Poll: Who are you rooting for?

KT fan, rooting for Flash (32)
 
30%

Rooting for s2 or Classic (28)
 
26%

CJ fan, rooting for Effort (17)
 
16%

Other fan, rooting for Flash (17)
 
16%

Other fan, rooting for Effort (13)
 
12%

KT or CJ fan rooting for the other side (1)
 
1%

108 total votes

Your vote: Who are you rooting for?

(Vote): KT fan, rooting for Flash
(Vote): CJ fan, rooting for Effort
(Vote): Other fan, rooting for Flash
(Vote): Other fan, rooting for Effort
(Vote): Rooting for s2 or Classic
(Vote): KT or CJ fan rooting for the other side

flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 01 2010 01:55 GMT
#7
For some reason, seeing Roger Federer lose to Berdych has made me think that there will be an upset... Not really feeling both Flash and EffOrt getting through--one will, but then the other spot will be snagged by either Classic or s2.

Who knows, anything could happen.

More excited for Jaedong's group since I like Jaedong, but this group should produce some better games, I hope.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
dtnmang
Profile Joined April 2010
Vietnam752 Posts
July 01 2010 01:58 GMT
#8
Yes sir, I love your prediction.
KT Roflster - the lulziest team of Proleague.
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2396 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 02:00:05
July 01 2010 01:59 GMT
#9
(Z)s2! SKT represent even if he's mediocre!
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 01 2010 02:00 GMT
#10
On July 01 2010 10:55 flamewheel wrote:
For some reason, seeing Roger Federer lose to Berdych has made me think that there will be an upset... Not really feeling both Flash and EffOrt getting through--one will, but then the other spot will be snagged by either Classic or s2.

Who knows, anything could happen.

More excited for Jaedong's group since I like Jaedong, but this group should produce some better games, I hope.

i was so depressed

its Nadal's wimbledon to lose
cw)minsean(ru
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 01 2010 02:02 GMT
#11
On July 01 2010 11:00 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 10:55 flamewheel wrote:
For some reason, seeing Roger Federer lose to Berdych has made me think that there will be an upset... Not really feeling both Flash and EffOrt getting through--one will, but then the other spot will be snagged by either Classic or s2.

Who knows, anything could happen.

More excited for Jaedong's group since I like Jaedong, but this group should produce some better games, I hope.

i was so depressed

its Nadal's wimbledon to lose

Haha, I'm kind of thinking Soderling is going to beat Nadal in retaliation for what happened at the French...
Just has to abuse that serve of his on fast grass.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
July 01 2010 02:08 GMT
#12
On July 01 2010 11:02 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 11:00 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:55 flamewheel wrote:
For some reason, seeing Roger Federer lose to Berdych has made me think that there will be an upset... Not really feeling both Flash and EffOrt getting through--one will, but then the other spot will be snagged by either Classic or s2.

Who knows, anything could happen.

More excited for Jaedong's group since I like Jaedong, but this group should produce some better games, I hope.

i was so depressed

its Nadal's wimbledon to lose

Haha, I'm kind of thinking Soderling is going to beat Nadal in retaliation for what happened at the French...
Just has to abuse that serve of his on fast grass.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but they already played...
God Bless
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
July 01 2010 02:08 GMT
#13
On July 01 2010 11:02 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 11:00 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:55 flamewheel wrote:
For some reason, seeing Roger Federer lose to Berdych has made me think that there will be an upset... Not really feeling both Flash and EffOrt getting through--one will, but then the other spot will be snagged by either Classic or s2.

Who knows, anything could happen.

More excited for Jaedong's group since I like Jaedong, but this group should produce some better games, I hope.

i was so depressed

its Nadal's wimbledon to lose

Haha, I'm kind of thinking Soderling is going to beat Nadal in retaliation for what happened at the French...
Just has to abuse that serve of his on fast grass.

true but i feel like Nadal's in prime shape. and a big serve doesnt equate victory on grass
roddick's out already and he's got the biggest serve. isner also struggled a bit.

Nadal's court coverage i think will give him the wimbledon
he's too quick when he's on his game
cw)minsean(ru
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 02:12:20
July 01 2010 02:09 GMT
#14
On July 01 2010 11:08 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 11:02 flamewheel wrote:
On July 01 2010 11:00 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:55 flamewheel wrote:
For some reason, seeing Roger Federer lose to Berdych has made me think that there will be an upset... Not really feeling both Flash and EffOrt getting through--one will, but then the other spot will be snagged by either Classic or s2.

Who knows, anything could happen.

More excited for Jaedong's group since I like Jaedong, but this group should produce some better games, I hope.

i was so depressed

its Nadal's wimbledon to lose

Haha, I'm kind of thinking Soderling is going to beat Nadal in retaliation for what happened at the French...
Just has to abuse that serve of his on fast grass.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but they already played...

yah. Nadal already in semi's

Nadal beat Soderling 3 sets to 1 dropping the first set
Murray, Berdych and Djokovich are also in the semi's
cw)minsean(ru
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
July 01 2010 02:14 GMT
#15
gogo s2!

prediction: s2 will get bbs'd and then win
boomer hands
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
July 01 2010 02:35 GMT
#16
s2 Fighting! SKT shall upset this group.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
July 01 2010 02:42 GMT
#17
Oh shit... The night that I was planning on going to bed early because I have to get up early tomorrow... Now I think I'll nap and catch this group. :< I'll post later if I'm streaming~
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Rookstarz
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada136 Posts
July 01 2010 02:46 GMT
#18
S2 Fighting!!! Pull off the upset.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
July 01 2010 02:48 GMT
#19
On July 01 2010 11:08 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2010 11:02 flamewheel wrote:
On July 01 2010 11:00 DreaM)XeRO wrote:
On July 01 2010 10:55 flamewheel wrote:
For some reason, seeing Roger Federer lose to Berdych has made me think that there will be an upset... Not really feeling both Flash and EffOrt getting through--one will, but then the other spot will be snagged by either Classic or s2.

Who knows, anything could happen.

More excited for Jaedong's group since I like Jaedong, but this group should produce some better games, I hope.

i was so depressed

its Nadal's wimbledon to lose

Haha, I'm kind of thinking Soderling is going to beat Nadal in retaliation for what happened at the French...
Just has to abuse that serve of his on fast grass.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but they already played...

Oh ff I fail.
X_X

Oh well Nadal should still lose.

Okay time to stop derailing.

Go Flash o/
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-01 02:51:57
July 01 2010 02:51 GMT
#20
Saying Flash is by far the best player in the world atm (since the MSL finals) doesn't say much for the state of top SC play.

I can see Flash losing a game (to classic or effort) but he'll make it out of the grp.
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