EPTOn July 01 2010 19:17 Jackal03 wrote:
just woke up to see the results, the obvious happended (in all games)
just woke up to see the results, the obvious happended (in all games)
Silly cj fan
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Scaramanga
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McDonalds
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On July 01 2010 16:52 McDonalds wrote: The following results would make me :---)  Flash < Classic EffOrt > s2Classic > EffOrtFlash > s2EffOrt: Grr I must live up to my name and full life consequencesFlash < EffOrtResults were: Flash > ClassicEffOrt > s2Flash < EffOrtClassic < s2Flash: Grr I must live up to my ??? and ???Flash > s2This is not what I had in mind, universe!! | ||
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moopie
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On July 01 2010 19:16 snowdrift86 wrote: Are you sure? I just saw the 14cc and thought s2 was the one reacting to it. Guess I'm too used to seeing it that way. s2's overlord didn't even reach flash's base when flash's scv reached s2's base, it was about halfway there (as is the usual case with overlord scouting). Yes, by waiting with his rax flash allowed himself the option to play an econ game, but also if needed, double rax into defensive play. He saw the 12 hatch (even delayed it a bit with his scv if you recall), and then threw down the CC. I don't think you can count that against him, as its just reacting to balance out your opponent. Had s2 gone for a less greedy opening (I mean, christ, 3 hatch before pool), flash would have likely done the same (if only to survive the early wave of lings). On July 01 2010 19:16 Gustav_Wind wrote: What? How can you wait to 14cc until after scout? By not making your barracks for that long you are kind of committed to the greedy econ opening. You can also double rax and wall off the choke if needed instead of a CC. He scouted on 12 or so. Flash's scout into 14cc is something that he has done quite a few times, even vT on match point. | ||
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pieisamazing
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rainei
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khellian
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Why is that silly? Effort has won 5 of the 7 games they have played lately. Or did Flash lose all of those 5 games, not Effort winning them? lol | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
On July 01 2010 19:21 J1.au wrote: I think it was smart of Flash to place Effort in his group. Now he knows his vZ deficiencies and can correct them. Shouldn't he have known this after their last encounter? Or after the entire Proleague season? | ||
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moopie
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On July 01 2010 19:22 rainei wrote: I wonder if s2 had attacked at Flash's natural with his guardians, he could have done a LOT more damage. Although Flash's army wasn't at his natural, he could basically take out the nat and prevent his guards from being sniped off, as there's plenty of cliff area above it. If he would have waited for his defilers/consume before he threw away a couple of waves of his army he might have been able to break flash, since at that point he had already taken care of most of the mines. Alas, he figured he didn't need them or whatever. | ||
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alypse
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pieisamazing
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On July 01 2010 19:23 khellian wrote: Why is that silly? Effort has won 5 of the 7 games they have played lately. Or did Flash lose all of those 5 games, not Effort winning them? lol Scaramanga is known to be an avid Flash fanboy. | ||
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Jackal03
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On July 01 2010 19:25 pieisamazing wrote: Scaramanga is known to be an avid Flash fanboy. yep, don't discuss | ||
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moopie
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On July 01 2010 19:24 McDonalds wrote: Shouldn't he have known this after their last encounter? Or after the entire Proleague season? The finals vs effort he lost to lings (and his own greedy play), and then in the pl match, with valks vs lurkers (which you can't learn much from other than "don't do that"), and here is your "entire Proleague season". He does need to work on his lategame vZ, but he doesn't get to explore it in televised matches all too often (except for w/ JD, though not these last finals). | ||
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anch
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Winning s2: Mech is imba Flash has long way to go, I hope he doesnt suicide. | ||
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12yearsofsc
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okum
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On July 01 2010 19:27 anch wrote: Losing to Effort: uncreative Winning s2: Mech is imba Flash has long way to go, I hope he doesnt suicide. At least it's better than a year ago, when he got knocked out in the early rounds with this kind of play. | ||
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khellian
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On July 01 2010 19:26 moopie wrote: The finals vs effort he lost to lings (and his own greedy play), and then in the pl match, with valks vs lurkers (which you can't learn much from other than "don't do that"), and here is your "entire Proleague season" Well you can take away two games against "you know who" because we all know why Flash won those games... ^_* But I totaly agree with you. | ||
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McDonalds
Liechtenstein2244 Posts
On July 01 2010 19:26 moopie wrote: The finals vs effort he lost to lings (and his own greedy play), and then in the pl match, with valks vs lurkers (which you can't learn much from other than "don't do that"), and here is your "entire Proleague season" So basically you're saying that one game against Effort today is more valuable to him than five games against Effort a while ago and thirteen games against zerg opponents over time. I'd say that if he lost three times to nothing but zerglings then his deficiency is DEFENSE AGAINST ZERGLINGS. But that isn't what happened. | ||
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